Wrong Insight: 'Nothing exists outside of MY mind' - Leo's Greatest Pitfall

[Nemra]

People need to take a break from this forum and also from Leo teachings for at least a month, otherwise they get delusional of how awake they are and are still confused. When they don't agree with something with Leo, they start a rant of how he is wrong about everything, which is not to say that we need to believe him or blindly follow him.

[Princess Arabia]

  On 7/12/2023 at 5:15 PM, Understander said:

People need to take a break from this forum and also from Leo teachings for at least a month, otherwise they get delusional of how awake they are and are still confused. When they don't agree with something with Leo, they start a rant of how he is wrong about everything, which is not to say that we need to believe him or blindly follow him.

Why are people always telling people what they should/shouldn't do. Do what's best for you. That's my job, remember.....slave!

[Inliytened1]

  On 7/12/2023 at 4:10 PM, Someone here said:

This reminds me of your  god-forsaken solipsism video..you literally said that you don't have conscious experience of your own and that I'm imagining you teaching me solipsism.  I was really convinced about that back then and I made a (not well thought out ) thread here that I've awakened to solipsism. 

 

You fell into a trap.  You took it as a belief.  That is NOT awakening!  You have to awaken to Truth not be convinced of it.   Be careful as the ego will even right now take Leo's words and either shun them or possibly turn them into a belief! The ONLY way, and I mean the ONLY way - to Truth is Yourself - meaning do the spiritual practices.   Yes, be open and curious that perhaps this Leo character may possibly be one of the few teachers that can actually guide you in the right direction.   His words may even trigger a spontaneous awakening if you are gifted enough - but your mind must first have to be open - and clear of any dogma - Then - and only then - you will BECOME the Truth - and you won't need to be convinced of it!   

 

Edited July 12, 2023 by Inliytened1

[Leo Gura]

  On 7/12/2023 at 4:22 PM, Moksha said:

I wonder if you will ever see the ego in yourself, or do anything to dissolve it. As long as I'm here, I will speak the truth as I see it. If it offends you, ban me. Or ask yourself who is feeling offended.

1) You will misunderstand this but I'll say it anyway: EGO IS GOD.

2) It's not about being offended, my job is to guide people to higher consciousness than they have presently experienced. That's why I'm here.

And also for the jokes.

Edited July 12, 2023 by Leo Gura

[Nemra]

  On 7/12/2023 at 5:31 PM, Princess Arabia said:

Why are people always telling people what they should/shouldn't do.

Maybe they think they are right.

  On 7/12/2023 at 5:31 PM, Princess Arabia said:

Do what's best for you. That's my job, remember.....slave!

Yes, of course my queen. ?

[Princess Arabia]

  On 7/12/2023 at 5:40 PM, Understander said:

 

Maybe they think they are right.

Yes, of course my queen. ?

It's Princess.?

[Nemra]

@Princess Arabia 

My apologies, Princess. ?

Edited July 12, 2023 by Understander

[Moksha]

  On 7/12/2023 at 5:39 PM, Leo Gura said:

1) You will misunderstamd this but I'll say it anyway: EGO IS GOD.

The ego is god, lost in its imagination. Until it directly realizes itself and lets go of misidentifying as a limited mind.

We are the same god, experiencing its imagination through apparently different forms. Look inside and see.

For those that follow your teachings, as the most awake person on the planet, maybe you can share your insights about the value (or not) of ego death?

[Leo Gura]

  On 7/12/2023 at 5:48 PM, Moksha said:

For those that follow your teachings, as the most awake person on the planet, maybe you can share your insights about the value (or not) of ego death?

Ego death is something humans invented as part of the spirutual games they like to play. It has value for humans because it makes humans obedient, passive, and managable. Which has genuine value for society which needs order, but it has little to do with Consciousness. I don't care about ego death, I care about Consciousness.

Cheers!

Edited July 12, 2023 by Leo Gura

[Someone here]

  On 7/12/2023 at 5:34 PM, Inliytened1 said:

You fell into a trap.  You took it as a belief.  That is NOT awakening!  You have to awaken to Truth not be convinced of it.   Be careful as the ego will even right now take Leo's words and either shun them or possibly turn them into a belief! The ONLY way, and I mean the ONLY way - to Truth is Yourself - meaning do the spiritual practices.   Yes, be open and curious that perhaps this Leo character may possibly be one of the few teachers that can actually guide you in the right direction.   His words may even trigger a spontaneous awakening if you are gifted enough - but your mind must first have to be open - and clear of any dogma - Then - and only then - you will BECOME the Truth - and you won't need to be convinced of it!   

 

In fact Leo's videos are so powerful that I've deliberately decided to stop listening to his videos for a while and take a vacation because he threw truth bombs everywhere and I couldn't handle it . 

You are right in that I took it as a belief.  And that's why I have no beliefs or try to be without any belief systems .because I recognise that the only barrier that prevents me from seeing the truth Is my beliefs. 

I even tried to stop reading the forum  but I couldn't..If I read something which jars with my belief system.. I assess whether it is genuinely new information or can be subsumed into a category I've already considered. If it is something new..and which impacts on my beliefs..I will try to assess the reliability of the new information and spend time considering the implications. I am prepared to change my existing beliefs in light of new evidence which would indicate my current beliefs are untenable.
 

[Inliytened1]

  On 7/12/2023 at 5:55 PM, Leo Gura said:

Ego death is something humans invented as part of the spirutual games they like to play. It has value for humans because it makes humans obedient, passive, and managable. Which has genuine value for society which needs order, but it has little to do with Consciousness. I don't care about ego death, I care about Consciousness.

Cheers!

It IS spirituality.  Leo Gura will surely die when you become God.  You are God now, but you aren't in God Consciousness now - you are in Leo Consciousness.   So unless you are saying you don't care about dissolving egoic behavior - wbich in that case you are right- that is all just a nice goal of the ego (counterintuitively) then I have to correct you.  I think we do agree though.

Edited July 12, 2023 by Inliytened1

[Greatnestwithin]

  On 7/12/2023 at 5:55 PM, Leo Gura said:

Ego death is something humans invented as part of the spirutual games they like to play. It has value for humans because it makes humans obedient, passive, and managable. Which has genuine value for society which needs order, but it has little to do with Consciousness. I don't care about ego death, I care about Consciousness.

Cheers!

@Leo Gura what then is the experience we refer to as ego death?

[Leo Gura]

  On 7/12/2023 at 6:02 PM, Inliytened1 said:

So unless you are saying you don't care about dissolving egoic behavior

I care about that within reason. But I don't worship it as some of you do. It is ultimately a tangent in this work.

  On 7/12/2023 at 6:03 PM, Greatnestwithin said:

@Leo Gura what then is the experience we refer to as ego death?

Who the fuck knows what you mean by ego death?

You can have a dissolution of thinking of yourself as biographical creature, replaced by a Universal Self.

Edited July 12, 2023 by Leo Gura

[Moksha]

  On 7/12/2023 at 5:55 PM, Leo Gura said:

Ego death is something humans invented as part of the spirutual games they like to play. It has value for humans because it makes humans obedient, passive, and managable. Which has genuine value for society which needs order, but it has little to do with Consciousness. I don't care about ego death, I care about Consciousness.

You won't be awake until you directly realize god, and you will continue to suffer until you stop identifying with your ego. All of your imaginary adventures only tighten your attachment.

This is the fundamental insight of spirituality, and it will never make sense to your mind.

The Perennial Philosophy appears in every age and civilization:

There is an infinite, changeless reality beneath the world of change

This same reality lies at the core of every personality

The purpose of life is to discover this reality experientially, that is, to realize God while here on earth

- Aldous Huxley

*taps the mic*

This is god talking through its form, trying to awaken itself in another form. It's awfully quiet in here.

[Nemra]

  On 7/12/2023 at 4:22 PM, Moksha said:

Deepening moves awareness beyond the level of ideas to direct integration. It takes the absolute inward, toward itself. Eventually there's nothing left but an empty portal, through which god lucidly experiences its imagination. Ego death is the final enlightened state within the dream.

Have you thought about that you could be wrong or not deep enough?

If Leo came to your forum and said you are wrong about spirituality, what would you do?

[Vignan]

@Leo Gura, as you are now awakened to these extraordinary states of consciousness, how are you now able to cope with life as a Leo and keep up with your life’s purpose? Cause here in this work we make this balance of GOD Realisation and Self actualization! Also how deep do you think this rabbit hole gos?

Ive some awakenings where at the end of it I see a something new waiting for me even after having these realisations. 

Edited July 12, 2023 by Vignan
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[Moksha]

  On 7/12/2023 at 6:31 PM, Understander said:

Have you thought about that you could be wrong or not deep enough?

If Leo came to your forum and said you are wrong about spirituality, what would you do?

The same god carves its path to realization in infinite ways. We are all god, losing and finding itself within its dream.

Edited: Sometimes silence is the better choice.

Edited July 12, 2023 by Moksha

[Yimpa]

 

[SOUL]

Contemplate the notion of rude awakening...then realize it isn't.

[Sincerity]

  On 7/12/2023 at 4:05 PM, Leo Gura said:

All of you need to think for yourselves. That is precisely what you are not doing and why I am yelling at you.

When you come here and parrot nondual and Buddhist ideas, that is not independent thought nor widsom, THAT is cult behavior. You are twisting everything around in order to prevent AWAKENING.

Don't make this about me. It's about you.

I use harsh langauge because your mind is not subtle enough to understand nuance. And because following human etiquette is part of what keeps you alseep.

There is no pleasant way that I can tell you that none of your teachers are AWAKE. Any way in which I say that, you will dismiss, reject, and turn into an attack against me. That is what you have done.

You must get wise to a very sneaky game that's at play here within your mind.

Otherwise you will wind up a deluded fool like Nahm, WinterKnight, Frank Yank, TJ Reeves, and all the others over the years. ALL of these people are utterly deluded.

THINK FOR YOURSELVES. But do not get the dumb idea that you have outsmarted me. Recognize that if you think you have outsmarted me on spirituality, you have not taken the position of humility, you have taken of arrogance. The utter arrogance of someone like Nahm. The balls on that guy!

I am not asking that anyone follow me blindly. To even suggest I want something like that is sheer lunacy and an utter disrespect for my work.

I am NOT saying I am better than you. You CAN reach my level of consciousness. But you will have to do a lot of work to get there. You aren't there yet. The only purpose of all my talk is that I hope one day you will reach my level of consciousness and we can be the only two people on the planet who are AWAKE, together. While everyone else is playing their spiritual games.

Okay. Thanks for the clarification.