What are different ways of "working with your energy"?

[Federico del pueblo]

I mean any process where you bring up or become aware of energy within you with the ultimate goal of bringing everything into perfect (energetic) balance.

Let me share what I already have done or keep doing with the corresponding benefits and then maybe you can add to that.

Meditation => improves the energetic state in a general sense, feels vitalising especially for the brain but also the entire body

Visualisation => for me preferably integrated into the meditation towards the end, brings up amazing positive energy

Music => especially in combination with meditation and visualisation, brings up even more amazing energy, like profound gratefulness, connectedness etc

Psychedelics (LSD) => brings up absolutely enormous amounts of disruptive (survival) energy related to traumas or negative past conditioning, kind of like a download of a big energy data pack, which then gets unpacked/unzipped and "opened" to then be converted into consciousness as in understanding about the origins of the energy, accompanied by massive emotional releases with crying and an "abreacting" of the energy with heavy tremors/shaking, upper body movements all of which happen involuntary/automatically but can be consciously interrupted if needed/desired.

Is the most intense way of working with my energy thus far, but also seems like the most effective in terms of how much of my "negative energy" breaks away (improvements in reactivity to trauma triggers etc)

Then combined with either one of the first 3 techniques (meditation, visualisation, music) or also simply by basking in the present moment, even more intense purely positive states can be reached, including things like existential ecstasy, pure joy of being, love, gratitude etc.

It's basically like first dying to then be reborn, just that I haven't yet had the experience of actually dying (spiritually).

Emotional freedom techniques/tapping (trigger work) => brings up a bit of the disruptive energy associated with negative conditioning by intentionally focusing on a trigger (memory, future event, a situation etc.) to then rebalance the dysbalance caused by the trigger; 

so it's like creating a bit of dysbalance to then establish balance again to teach body and brain that the reaction to a trigger is inappropriate and can be unlearned

Works but feels a bit slow, some problems still seem a bit stubborn and like more is needed.

 

Anyway I think those are the most important ones.

What more do you know and how does it work?

Which practices are there where someone else helps you to work on your energy in whichever way that is?

Also: Has anyone of you worked with TRE, which is Tension and trauma releasing exercises? 

That stuff looks very interesting too and like you work very directly with energy (associated with your trauma) to release and reprocess it. But I have no idea.

Thanks!

 

[Hojo]

working out, eating good food, sleeping good, stretching, being confident.

Edited June 30, 2023 by Hojo

[Federico del pueblo]

@Benton thanks, I'll check it out.

Edit:

Would you mind giving just a short overview about which techniques/practices she mentions before I watch the 53 minutes?

Like, is it different types of yoga or also other stuff?

 

1 hour ago, Hojo said:

working out, eating good food, sleeping good, stretching, being confident.

The first ones make sense but the "being confident" one seems like what you would get as the result of improved energy.

Do you mean acting confident in spite of feeling some insecurity, thus raising your energy or do you mean just feeling and acting confident from the beginning?

Edited July 1, 2023 by Federico del pueblo

[Hojo]

@Federico del pueblo Yes being confident will higher your mood and increase your energy power.Its just about being able to speak your mind without shooting yourself down every time you speak what you believe. Is it possible to do while in a low state? I don't know because you probably have some demons at low energy and probably believe what you they say to you to be true if you are in lower energies. I imagine you can but you have to be confident in your confidence if that makes sense lol. Confident without listening to the minds mocking

[Sugarcoat]

@Federico del pueblo

 

Great post! 
I myself have experienced a lot of my own energy recently doing its thing  which has increased my awareness of its workings so I want to ask some questions if that’s fine. 

Do you have some degree of conscious control over this energy or does it simply tend to do its thing per automatic and you are aware of it?
And do you tend to deliberately put yourself in situations where you remember in the past brought up energy? Rather than being attracted to certain circumstances, in other words, your energy is already rising in you but it is attracted to certain circumstances so by creating them this energy is allowed to flow through you aka “be brought up”.

And lastly does your energies tend to be associated with your sense of self/ideal self/different personas /vibes of you?

Edited July 1, 2023 by Sugarcoat

[caspex]

To bring another perspective to the conversation, I want to add that "Bhakti" seems to be essentially energy work. If you do a ritual for a particular deity lasting few hours every day, asking it for healing, help or straight up energy, you do open up your heart center massively. It really depends on the deity.

The process is greatly accelerated if you apply teachings of no-self, everything is one, 'there are no distinctions' and such to the ritual.

It has helped me easily open up my heart, my solar plexus and even my head. All of it within 40 - 60 days. I am literally a different person after the practice. I also started to have mystical experiences on a regular basis.

You also build 'maturity' and 'integrity' automatically. You automatically do 'shadow work' at the same time. This is because you start embodying the qualities of the deity. If, for example, you worship Rama, you embody his qualities of maturity, integrity, humbleness, strength of character, intelligence and other qualities, to the extent you are capable. Rama is literally the ideal man.
Let's say you worship Hanumana, you start embodying intense humbleness with physical and internal strength.

All of this is to say "Bhakti" is actually an amazing practice that does multiple things at once. And this is leaving out everything about whether these deities actually exist or not or if they physically provide you aid or not, that's a plus if that's actually the case.

But it only really works if you truly start believing in the existence of that diety, and that your prayers ARE actually being received by some entity or energy system.

'Bhakti' is way faster than simple meditation, when it comes to embodying higher states of consciousness. Let's say through psychedelics and contemplation you have found a new peak. 'Bhakti' will help your embody that state faster than simple meditation.

'Psychedelics', I think, change the structure of your brain and body to be able to handle high states of energy and consciousness, but when your come off the psychedelic, you are not able to generate that much energy on your own, hence the HUGE gap between the baselines and the peak of a psychedelic user.
Bhakti is asking a higher entity to give you it's energy, and it can give you a LOT. But it only gives as much as you can handle. If you have restructured your brain and body to be able to handle high states of energy and consciousness, it's almost guaranteed that the deity will give you so much you'll reach those peak states again, without the psychedelics. But this is only if you are really able to connect to the deity after a few months of practice. It really depends on the deity.

It's important to keep in mind, all deities have their own rules you need to follow when you do their upasana. Failure to follow which can have repercussions on your life.

The part about psychedelics and bhakti complementing is just my speculation though. I would actually love to see someone who has changes his very structure through psychedelics try genuine bhakti practice. I can't access psychedelics yet, otherwise I'd try this myself.

[Federico del pueblo]

1 hour ago, Sugarcoat said:

Do you have some degree of conscious control over this energy or does it simply tend to do its thing per automatic and you are aware of it?

I'm not sure if you're referring to the negative energy when emotionally triggered or energy in general, including positive energy, so I'll answer for both:

Negative energy: only little control available, when the trigger is present (situation, specific type of person) the energy comes up and can hardly be controlled, I can only limit its influence by staying present and not engaging in the negativity of the pattern, as in not thinking more thoughts of the same energy.

Longterm I do have control over it by repeatedly working on it with the techniques mentioned above.

Positive energy:

There's definitely a degree of control over bringing this energy up, I simply have to engage in the things like meditation or visualisation and music and then the brain and body fill up with this energy.

Other energy:

Then there's like a third type of energy linked to the other ones but still sort of independent/with its own life so to speak. I suspect it to be the beginnings of emerging Kundalini energy.

I can sometimes clearly feel subtle movements in the spine that sort of move my back a little bit in a twisting/spiraling motion. This happens during trips, meditation or breathwork, especially when the meditative state is deep or the emotional state is elevated.

Sometimes subtle yet noticeable energy start rising through the spine and reaches the brain. It can be accompanied by a sort of electric feeling which goes all the way up to the top of the head. There it can cause twitching in the face and eye muscles as though these muscles were stimulated by some low-key electrical current. I have no control over it.

I also have no control over it when in psychedelic experiences huge amounts of energy get liberated and make the entire body shake, twitch and tremble, it's completely involuntary but feels like a higher intelligence is doing some energy healing on me

[Federico del pueblo]

@Swarnim Thanks for providing this info. I had no idea of Bhakti and that you could literally ask deities for support.

[Hojo]

@Federico del pueblo hanuman is the easiest to get from what I've heard. But it means no jerking off 

[Sugarcoat]

On 2023-07-01 at 6:04 PM, Federico del pueblo said:

I'm not sure if you're referring to the negative energy when emotionally triggered or energy in general, including positive energy, so I'll answer for both:

Negative energy: only little control available, when the trigger is present (situation, specific type of person) the energy comes up and can hardly be controlled, I can only limit its influence by staying present and not engaging in the negativity of the pattern, as in not thinking more thoughts of the same energy.

Longterm I do have control over it by repeatedly working on it with the techniques mentioned above.

Positive energy:

There's definitely a degree of control over bringing this energy up, I simply have to engage in the things like meditation or visualisation and music and then the brain and body fill up with this energy.

Other energy:

Then there's like a third type of energy linked to the other ones but still sort of independent/with its own life so to speak. I suspect it to be the beginnings of emerging Kundalini energy.

I can sometimes clearly feel subtle movements in the spine that sort of move my back a little bit in a twisting/spiraling motion. This happens during trips, meditation or breathwork, especially when the meditative state is deep or the emotional state is elevated.

Sometimes subtle yet noticeable energy start rising through the spine and reaches the brain. It can be accompanied by a sort of electric feeling which goes all the way up to the top of the head. There it can cause twitching in the face and eye muscles as though these muscles were stimulated by some low-key electrical current. I have no control over it.

I also have no control over it when in psychedelic experiences huge amounts of energy get liberated and make the entire body shake, twitch and tremble, it's completely involuntary but feels like a higher intelligence is doing some energy healing on me

Yea I see what you mean there with the negativity. There can be a kind of space around it so it plays out by itself without being fed which then makes is appear less and less frequently with less and less intensity …

 

With positive energy personally it’s more spontaneous I can’t really bring it about myself much. For example listening to music can bring it up but only if I’m “in the mood” aka something in me wants to listen rather than me making that choice. But perhaps certain patterns can start to emerge w time and one can engage more consciously as you speak of

 

Ive only experienced that kind of third energy during sleep paralysis. Feels great right . Didn’t know it had a name. But yea it does it’s own thing and sometimes what’s best for our healing is to let it do just that

[hyruga]

Oh I think you meant working with your energy.

Maybe can do meditation or Tai chi.

Edited July 3, 2023 by hyruga