What stage of the spiral was patanjali and budha in

[Ramanujan]

Patanjali wrote yoga sutra patanjali. in it is writtern all stages of yoga which has not changed much. last stage writtern in it is still last stage today. Maharishi patanjali is not blue imo

buddha was not blue imo.

they are above blue. but leo keep saying they are blue. how is it possible . a person in nirvikalpaka samadhi isn not blue

its a joke to say that the legend maharishi patanjali was stage blue.

Edited June 27, 2023 by Ramanujan

[Carl-Richard]

What stage do you think they were in and why?

[Ramanujan]

9 hours ago, Carl-Richard said:

What stage do you think they were in and why?

Not blue lol .  founders of spiral dynamincs are deluding themslelf if they say  buddha and patanjali are in blue

[Carl-Richard]

2 hours ago, Ramanujan said:

Not blue lol .  founders of spiral dynamincs are deluding themslelf if they say  buddha and patanjali are in blue

Why?

[Inliytened1]

18 hours ago, Ramanujan said:

Patanjali wrote yoga sutra patanjali. in it is writtern all stages of yoga which has not changed much. last stage writtern in it is still last stage today. Maharishi patanjali is not blue imo

buddha was not blue imo.

they are above blue. but leo keep saying they are blue. how is it possible . a person in nirvikalpaka samadhi isn not blue

its a joke to say that the legend maharishi patanjali was stage blue.

 

18 hours ago, Ramanujan said:

Patanjali wrote yoga sutra patanjali. in it is writtern all stages of yoga which has not changed much. last stage writtern in it is still last stage today. Maharishi patanjali is not blue imo

buddha was not blue imo.

they are above blue. but leo keep saying they are blue. how is it possible . a person in nirvikalpaka samadhi isn not blue

its a joke to say that the legend maharishi patanjali was stage blue.

An awakened mystic is beyond all stages.  It is only when they go back into the dream that they climb the ladder.  But they have already reached the top and came back down to embrace the climb.

Edited June 28, 2023 by Inliytened1

[Phil King]

18 hours ago, Ramanujan said:

they are above blue. but leo keep saying they are blue

I think he means the Buddhist dogma that people dont dare question is stage blue. Same with fundamentalist christians. Jesus and the Buddha were likely beyond turquoise or  transcended all stages. The people who blindly follow them without questioning are stage blue

[Yimpa]

18 hours ago, Carl-Richard said:

What stage do you think they were in and why?

Stage Carl. 

I don’t know, I’m just making shit up!

[TheAlchemist]

I don't see spiral dynamics as necessarily a model of development of consciousness. It is more related to values. These two tend to correlate but also, no matter how conscious someone is, they might still hold stage blue or even purple values in the relative domain. 

[Carl-Richard]

Spiral Dynamics is roughly about culture and cognition. Spirituality (or more specifically mysticism) transcends culture and cognition. Imagine being a Norwegian who goes to a cabin in the woods every winter, who studies in a liberal university and who votes in all local and national elections. You can still awaken to the same truth as someone who lives in the Amazon, who spends their days hunting and gathering and who takes commands from no one else than their tribe elders. Spiral Dynamics describes what is different between those two individuals. Spirituality describes what is common.

Edited June 28, 2023 by Carl-Richard

[Ramanujan]

@Carl-Richard @Carl-Richard

On 28/6/2023 at 7:41 PM, Carl-Richard said:

Spiral Dynamics is roughly about culture and cognition. Spirituality (or more specifically mysticism) transcends culture and cognition. Imagine being a Norwegian who goes to a cabin in the woods every winter, who studies in a liberal university and who votes in all local and national elections. You can still awaken to the same truth as someone who lives in the Amazon, who spends their days hunting and gathering and who takes commands from no one else than their tribe elders. Spiral Dynamics describes what is different between those two individuals. Spirituality describes what is common.

Damn  this is owsome