Leo, why do you think you are the most awakened being on this planet?

[LSD-Rumi]

I mean a lot of people are genetically superior to you in terms of spiritual brain strucutre and they could simply take psychedelics too. So what is so special in your case? Do you think you have the desire for the truth more than any being on this Earth, and through psychedelics you even surpassed all masters?

[The0Self]

Every awake being is the most awakened being on the planet. Nothing comes into being and nothing moves. But the only awakened being is the awake one. Language is not sufficient unfortunately to get this across.

Edited June 25, 2023 by The0Self

[LSD-Rumi]

@The0Self Are you talking about solpsism? I didn't really understand your argument.

[PenguinPablo]

[Breakingthewall]

8 hours ago, LSD-Rumi said:

a lot of people are genetically superior to you in terms of spiritual brain strucutre

Yes, but very few are so ambitious, systematic and determined at the same time, and brave btw. think that people like ralston, shadguru, adyashanti, etc, who are completely dedicated to spirituality, have never tried psychedelics. this fact is very revealing. let's see, your life is 100% focused on spirituality, you hear that there is something like 5meo and you hear the experiences, but you never try it! not even once or twice to give an opinion. You directly say that this is negative, that it is wrong, without knowing what it is. this reactionary mentality that is strangely the norm, is a great barrier.  

In the end, the translation of everything is: hahaha poor upstart, you cannot join the exclusive club of the enlightened except with effort and being chosen. what did you think? You will never be from our club, we are few and that is what we like the most (poor inferior wretch) : EGO

[MAHAVATAR_-_BABAJI]

10 hours ago, LSD-Rumi said:

I mean a lot of people are genetically superior to you in terms of spiritual brain strucutre and they could simply take psychedelics too. So what is so special in your case? Do you think you have the desire for the truth more than any being on this Earth, and through psychedelics you even surpassed all masters?

This frivolous speech is not a path where fruits/benefits come about. 

His words are simply that,'Words'. Your actions will lead to your awakening. Then others will question your attainments.

Edited June 25, 2023 by MAHAVATAR_-_BABAJI

[LSD-Rumi]

@Breakingthewall Interesting, I made such observation with sadghuru. I am sometimes surprised  by the utter bullshit he spreads and wash his followers with.

Supposedly,he spent years of his life making this idol which he call the dalilanga or something, and it carries some sort of spiritual energy that will help you make progress in your life.

So according to him, you should travel to india to this place, because it is good for you, and psychedelics which you have an easy access to and they are reported to generate an amazing level of spiritual experience, do disturp your energetic system. What an utter bullshit.

 

Edited June 25, 2023 by LSD-Rumi

[Breakingthewall]

14 minutes ago, LSD-Rumi said:

What an utter bullshit.

well precisely shadguru is a bad example because he says many crazy things, such as that those over 80 will leave the wheel of reincarnations, that if you die the state you are in at that moment will expand to infinity, that he knows his past reincarnations, etc I don't really know what to think of that guy, every time I've listened to him I've heard: I'm smart and wise, and the others are mentally retarded. faker?

But there are others that are not fake like Ralston or spiral, that are against psychedelic too, without having tried them

[LSD-Rumi]

@Breakingthewall Yeah, he seems smart and genuine but then he speaks these stupid things. It is very strange. Could it be the Hindusim poisoned his mind?

[Leo Gura]

I don't know how to explain or justify it to you guys. It's just the only conclusion I come to over and over again in my highest Awakenings. I have never heard any spiritual teacher teach the things which I have become conscious of about GOD.

All human forms of spiritually are utterly inadequate. I don't hear anyone say that but me.

Edited June 25, 2023 by Leo Gura

[How to be wise]

Solipsism

[r0ckyreed]

57 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

I don't know how to explain or justify it to you guys. It's just the only conclusion I come to over and over again in my highest Awakenings. I have never heard any spiritual teacher teach the things which I have become conscious of about GOD.

All human forms of spiritually are utterly inadequate. I don't hear anyone say that but me.

I know you have your experiences. It just seems like question begging that you have been wrong in the past, so what makes you so sure that your highest awakening isn’t the highest deception?

I mean if we take the nonduality logic on, everything is one and equals everything. That applies to truth being falsehood and awakening being a deception.

That means that all dualities collapse including your highest awakening being your highest self-deception????????

[OldManCorcoran]

1 hour ago, Leo Gura said:

I don't know how to explain or justify it to you guys. It's just the only conclusion I come to over and over again in my highest Awakenings. I have never heard any spiritual teacher teach the things which I have become conscious of about GOD.

All human forms of spiritually are utterly inadequate. I don't hear anyone say that but me.

Actually I think that teaching is common to all religions. Even Christianity which says you cannot gaze upon the face of God... All monks and gurus in mystic traditions say that whatever it is, like Brahman, whatever, cannot be captured or conceptualized in any words.

Someone just ought to figure out a way to explain why that is.

[Leo Gura]

29 minutes ago, r0ckyreed said:

so what makes you so sure that your highest awakening isn’t the highest deception?

You will not understand until you reach the level I've reached.

[Leo Gura]

10 minutes ago, OldManCorcoran said:

Actually I think that teaching is common to all religions. Even Christianity which says you cannot gaze upon the face of God... All monks and gurus in mystic traditions say that whatever it is, like Brahman, whatever, cannot be captured or conceptualized in any words.

Someone just ought to figure out a way to explain why that is.

None of those people is talking about what I am talking about.

[OldManCorcoran]

13 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

None of those people is talking about what I am talking about.

Won't everyone just supercede whatever you are discussing when they're dead? Lol. Though I suspect perhaps you will say something about the point of death being fake (as with the point of birth).

[Ghzem]

@OldManCorcoran I want to ask, what’s your view on death? 

[AdamR95]

What about people that may be that conscious but just not talk about it.

Arent the deeper truths unspeakable afterall?

Edited June 25, 2023 by AdamR95

[LSD-Rumi]

29 minutes ago, OldManCorcoran said:

Won't everyone just supercede whatever you are discussing when they're dead? Lol. Though I suspect perhaps you will say something about the point of death being fake (as with the point of birth).

If you think you will be reaching God by dying, you are delusional. Death will simply move you into the next body.

[SeaMonster]

14 hours ago, LSD-Rumi said:

I mean a lot of people are genetically superior to you in terms of spiritual brain strucutre and they could simply take psychedelics too. So what is so special in your case? Do you think you have the desire for the truth more than any being on this Earth, and through psychedelics you even surpassed all masters?

The simplest explanation is usually the right one: grandiosity.

Narcissists live in a fantasy world and think they are special and unique in some way.

Occam's Razor.

 

 

Edited June 25, 2023 by SeaMonster