No mountains and clouds

[Reciprocality]

When you perceive a mountain there is no mountain there, when you perceive clouds there are no "real" cloud.

You are the way in which what you look at is perceived as an idea, and these ideas were never themselves false nor correct, they are the language by which you orient yourself in your surroundings.

 

Have you ever experienced things in the absence of the idea you normally think when you experience them? This experience is trying to tell you that you are living in a deluded world, that you have lost all connection to reality itself, that is certainly what is tells me, I think it is universally true for at some or other layer we are convinced that our ideas are of the real world itself, isn't it amazing how effortlessly we believe that our ideas are true of the world itself? You can become directly conscious of it when you turn the world into your idea by looking around in the room, have you ever experienced this, if so how were this experience like?

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Wherever your eye takes you, there is a silhouette composed of curves of many kinds, there is color and light intensity, and then out of nowhere POOF does an idea appear for you, and it happens so automatically it feels like this idea bust be true of the silhouette itself.

This feeling of "it must be true of the real world", concretely: "there must be a bird over there" is inevitably your challenge to overcome. 

It is precisely when we overcome it that duality ceases.

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This means you are the bird, it is your body. This is the case right now. 

Our consciousness grows on itself when instead of thinking that the bird is an independent entity we realise our true nature as this whole thing, we get more space for just being whole instead of creating ego out of the rejection of the bird.

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Your whole life you have identified yourself in opposition to the things in the immediate totality, this is what an ego is, but you are instead the plurality of these mutually exclusive ideas, when you say you are anti-trump you are actually also pro-trump, you are the notion itself you have of those you define yourself in opposition to, you are the whole thing, both on an intellectual level and in the concrete world.

The ego is a myth you create right now, this immediate totality is not about you, and that feels amazing.

[Guest Bazooka Jesus]

9 minutes ago, Reciprocality said:

I think it is universally true for at some or other layer we are convinced that our ideas are of the real world itself, isn't it amazing how effortlessly we believe that our ideas are true of the world itself? You can become directly conscious of it when you turn the world into your idea by looking around in the room, have you ever experienced this, if so how were this experience like?

Haha, yeah. I am continually stunned about this AMAZING ability that thoughts have to trick us into believing that they are much more than just thoughts.

When you catch the mind red handed while it is pulling off this cunning magic trick, it is literally jaw dropping.

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14 minutes ago, Bazooka Jesus said:

Haha, yeah. I am continually stunned about this AMAZING ability that thoughts have to trick us into believing that they are much more than just thoughts.

When you catch the mind red handed while it is pulling off this cunning magic trick, it is literally jaw dropping.

@Bazooka Jesus Thoughts are many things, also things beyond these effortless ideas we believe are true of the independency of things.

We have for instance a clear notion of the difference between a harry potter and a J. K Rowling, the former thought don´t trick us into thinking we can actually find a wizard, but the latter thought not only makes us into thinking a) that we can find the author of Harry Potter but also b) that this thought is the Author herself in some or other way, it is first when we believe in b that we are tricked if we actually later on confirmed the existence of the author.

So to conclude, I don't think it is the thoughts themselves that fool us, as you implied, but that it is how they correspond to silhouettes, shapes and processes. Though it certainly is jaw dropping!

Edited June 21, 2023 by Reciprocality

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If it were unclear I can abstract from the above the rule that if followed:

If you were to maintain that thoughts have us fooled it would be like saying that humans are mischievous, or that babies are criers, or that laptops are warm, but since the opposite of all these statements is also true, since the abstract categories of "humans, laptops and babies" are very broad it would instead be wise to find the actual conditions for warm laptops, crying babies and mischievous behaviour, don't u think?

I think yes, and so it is with thoughts, there are certain conditions under which thoughts fools us, and there are the absence of these conditions.