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   A clip by Destiny about his latest divorce. General body language analysis:

   Generally speaking, when I psychologically assessed Destiny I was right. Also, this specifically follows up with my past body language analysis videos, so consistent defensiveness and deception signs.

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   As suggested by @kenway, I'll be doing some body language, verbal, statement and discourse analysis of this video here:

https://rumble.com/v34qr1q-ryan-dawson-mike-sartain-and-destiny-debate-rusukraine-911-israeli-influenc.html

   So for prior context, this video took place about 5 months ago. This video is made by Fresh & Fit, a Channel biased and preferential of red pill ideology and Mano sphere topics, a bit infamous for featuring Andrew Tate and other kinds of drama for young men and potential scams, also more for men's rights. Destiny is here to talk and debate with Fresh & Fit hosts Amrou Fudl also known online as 'Myron Gaines', featuring the following debaters:

Destiny: 12+ years online debater, political commentator, and online gamer, who was a cleaner, and before that a casino services, who before that was a student in university studying music and somewhere in this time was a conservative and catholic, which currently now is a liberal/liberal democrat with some centrism.

 Mike Sartain: Retired US Airforce captain, an instructor navigator in (Kasey105?), flew in Afghanistan and Iraq for approximately 500 combat hours, did 2 years of counter intelligence also intel(So am already expecting good body language delivery and tonality, and some control over exposures in non-verbals as counter intelligences also covers some body language analysis too), and 'somehow' ended up in Los Vegas hosting bikini competitions, also has the men's mentor program teaching networking and leadership as was taught to him by military, and 'how to bring a hundred girls to party with you'...🤣(I will enjoy reading his mannerisms).

Ryan Dawson: Mostly banned from social media, known as a conspiracy theorist who isn't 'cooked', covers geopolitics topics, some documentaries.

NOTE: these are from their introductions with the exception of Destiny as I was an ex fan of his fanbase, and watched enough of Destiny, the other two are first time hearings, exception being Mike Sartain as he was in a crucible video with Andrew Wilson debating on dating and divorce rates but other than that video not enough research on Mike Sartain. I will also factor in the comments as well to an extent, With that let's dive into this 2 hour video to see their body language, tonality and word choices:

   Discourse analysis: Good debate frame and session, Fresh and fit guys are positioned across each other, far ends of the table, Myron on left and the black guy on far right. Ryan Dawson is to Myron's left, and across Ryan is Destiny. Mike Sartain is in the middle facing the camera guy filming the whole video. The set was questionable, again too close to each other

   Generally speaking, after the opening and first 1 hour, my impressions from Ryan is lower vibe and energy from body to tonality, as he stated it's jet lag. Optically Ryan just seems more passive and submissive. When modal shifting occurs(this means changes to overall posture, shifting a bit to make oneself comfy or change state of mind and framing) Ryan's is a slight arm stretch and slight shifts which are minimal throughout.

   Mike Sartain is IMO the main attraction here, lots of facials, hand gestures, illustrations with hands and head, and some moments of modal shifting when Ryan brought up Israel's possible contacting of the USA prior to 9/11, Iraq stuff, and when Ryan brings up possible misinformation by SEALS navy or soldiers signing in wrong terms, an audible tutting, which in verbal analysis is strong sign of disagreement and disapproval, likely by Mike here. Also, a whole lot of glancing to his left, I assume towards Destiny more than black guy, maybe the many glances are signs of social approval or social connection to Destiny. Also a lot of finger wagging and pointing in certain times towards Ryan more than Destiny, which as I stated before, finger pointing and wagging is to the subconscious mind a strong negative sign of a weapon or strong disagreement(I generally suggest against finger pointing and wagging if your intent is to win rapport and persuade/convince the person you're talking to, unless you want to win the power dynamics game, then do wagging and finger pointing especially with a downwards facing palm, domineering non-verbally.). Generally in tonality and pacing much higher than Ryan's, on par with Destiny's, both seem to mirror each other's body language a bit which makes me feel like they're both were secretly allied and friends that agreed to debate against Ryan here. Especially at the halfway mark when he shifted by going up and down his chair on Ryan's statement of 'they did contacted(Israeli agents)USA about 9/11 potential attack' and Mike's 'okay' was very pointed and direct, followed by his right hand waving dismissively at Ryan's 'credentials' while stating "I watched a ton of your stuff.". Ryan reacted non-verbally by slowly stretching his arms, looking away and downcast, mode shifting a bit.

    As covered, Destiny as usual maintains a closed posturing on table, mostly avoids eye contact and stipples his hands together until he starts increasing his pacing and speech which the hands become animated to emphasis certain word choices. Whenever he makes his 'I don't know' statements he does shrug a bit, and micro scrunches his face in tension a bit, but overall just defensive. There's a few key moments, especially when Ryan brought up him using google searching and an implied suggestion of using his fans to feed him answers Destiny get's a lot more animated, his tonality rises up in retaliation.

   Generally, Myron and black guy's body language is a bit defensive, both in tone and non verbals especially when specific topics in 9/11 and the Russian/Ukraine war brought up, as if non-verbally recoiling at potential cancelations and censorships despite being in Rumble, again some moments of self soothing gestures, and an overall insecurity compensated by a higher tonality and vocal delivery to Destiny and to Mike, sometimes to Ryan. Some moments of micro disgust and micro tensions in specific talking points from Ryan. Especially in moment of bringing it back to topic he almost slaps on the table with his paper on it while trying to bring it to topic to Ryan.

 

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6 hours ago, Danioover9000 said:

   As suggested by @kenway, I'll be doing some body language, verbal, statement and discourse analysis of this video here:

https://rumble.com/v34qr1q-ryan-dawson-mike-sartain-and-destiny-debate-rusukraine-911-israeli-influenc.html

   So for prior context, this video took place about 5 months ago. This video is made by Fresh & Fit, a Channel biased and preferential of red pill ideology and Mano sphere topics, a bit infamous for featuring Andrew Tate and other kinds of drama for young men and potential scams, also more for men's rights. Destiny is here to talk and debate with Fresh & Fit hosts Amrou Fudl also known online as 'Myron Gaines', featuring the following debaters:

Destiny: 12+ years online debater, political commentator, and online gamer, who was a cleaner, and before that a casino services, who before that was a student in university studying music and somewhere in this time was a conservative and catholic, which currently now is a liberal/liberal democrat with some centrism.

 Mike Sartain: Retired US Airforce captain, an instructor navigator in (Kasey105?), flew in Afghanistan and Iraq for approximately 500 combat hours, did 2 years of counter intelligence also intel(So am already expecting good body language delivery and tonality, and some control over exposures in non-verbals as counter intelligences also covers some body language analysis too), and 'somehow' ended up in Los Vegas hosting bikini competitions, also has the men's mentor program teaching networking and leadership as was taught to him by military, and 'how to bring a hundred girls to party with you'...🤣(I will enjoy reading his mannerisms).

Ryan Dawson: Mostly banned from social media, known as a conspiracy theorist who isn't 'cooked', covers geopolitics topics, some documentaries.

NOTE: these are from their introductions with the exception of Destiny as I was an ex fan of his fanbase, and watched enough of Destiny, the other two are first time hearings, exception being Mike Sartain as he was in a crucible video with Andrew Wilson debating on dating and divorce rates but other than that video not enough research on Mike Sartain. I will also factor in the comments as well to an extent, With that let's dive into this 2 hour video to see their body language, tonality and word choices:

 

   IMO Destiny making this clip to character assassinate him for his fanbase tells all:

   I'm sorry, but from my limited knowledge of Ryan Dawson and that one video with Mark Sartain and Destiny in Fresh&Fit, all I got was low energy and low vibe, almost nothing in comparison to Nick Fuentes who had a much different energy level, much higher in verbal delivery and body language security. Ryan if anything, just in terms of body language is Nick Fuente's antitheses in communication style. I'm like WTF ARE YOU SMOKING DESTINY?! Smearing him like this??? This clip was disappointing. Again just affirms my past conclusions on Destiny again.

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   This is another video on that topic, just cuts to the second half of it:

 

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23 hours ago, Danioover9000 said:

   This is another video on that topic, just cuts to the second half of it:

 

   Just one more time before I move on to other targets, compare this clip with this video that has Nick Fuentes debating Destiny:

   Assuming the jet lag from Ryan Dawson wasn't severe, or just assuming that him at baseline without jet lag doesn't change that much, is he truly a Nick Fuentes clone? I want you to observe the difference in body language, tonality and vibe between Nick and Ryan, and decide for yourself who's being more truthful with this stupid comparison which is obviously a bad faith attempt by Destiny to discredit Ryan further.

   Done with Destiny here, I will cover Nick Fuentes next, just in terms of body language and tonality and words he utilizes, not so what he believes in, but how he delivers those talking points that made him successful in the past, regardless of his current situation today, body language that you could potentially role modal in yourself for better persuasion. Regarding the video itself and discourse analysis, well, it's cringe, just corruption of complicated spiritual truths and concepts, and cringe online dramas discourse, never mind the others, just focus on how Nick is delivering his points across, and compare them to the low energy of Ryan. 

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   A long time ago, @Leo Gura has made his video on the 65 + principles of the good life:

   Which IMO worth several re watches and notes, and contemplation. Now witness the power of just one of those principles, open mindedness and also a business principle of 'diversifying your portfolio'(Basically on the abstract having multiple sources of information of one situation, in the concrete for the business contexts that's having multiple investment types, not just invest 'all your eggs into one basket').

   The following situation are body language analysts that covers the Madeline McCann 'disappearance' case here, and the following analysts are:

The behavior panel.

Observe, who also listed a link to a statement analyst's take as well, worth checking out.

And a streamer called Superchuffer.

   IMO this is one of their weaker ones they covered, for some reason they just won't factor in that much potential guilt or possibility of the parents covering up their crime, and their analysis just omits some details and just focuses on the first interview. IMO this video is more conservative and emphasizes less their culpability and more their grief and negative feelings. Compare, contrast and make distinctions with the Observe's analysis and his own perspective and interpretation of their body language:

   IMO it differs more from the 4 behavior panelists, the Observe, his takes are more assertive and more cynical towards their potential guilt and culpability of Madeline's death. Also links in another video by a statement analyst who did a fantastic job interpreting from transcripts from another video their imbedded confession. Let's then see what Super Chuffer has to say of this situation:

   For further context, this guy is a streamer, and although I have bias against streamers, this is one of the few that does it right for me. Very interesting takes and worth some watch through.

    So! What's the biggest takeaway here? As always, it all comes down to developmental factors, which are many, that are cognitive, moral, psychological, from personality types/traits, from shadow aspects of one's ego, up to social factors, and especially ideological beliefs and self biases and preferences that shapes one's interpretation of this situation. Never bet all your chips, or put all your eggs into one basket, always try for multiple sources and consider multiple facets to a situation, which has the nice benefit  of auto correcting for wrongness on your part of the analysis. By having multiple type of analysis, and other perspectives, it does lead to more accurate reads. BTW, the Observe guy is a dog lover and has some Stage Green Spiral Dynamics values of animal welfare. Why is that important? Because in a different video, covering the death of a dog from potential neglect which the couple, social media influencers did euthanasia on, when they did their 'apology' video, he was so triggered it almost undermined any of his objective takes of their body language and tonality he's analyzing, and at the end moralizes against them.  

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   The next victim for my body language and tonality analysis:

   Topic and some prior context: YouTuber covering the Israel/Palestinian conflict, and due to language used seems to lean more for Palestine and the humanitarian issues there, and less to Israel's actions. Naturally the topic is emotionally charged so I expect more emotionally charged non-verbals here.

   First impressions and general body language and facial: Interesting communication style. First his posture, which is left arm and elbow sticking out, as if to occupy space on his left, communicates confidence and domineering energy, like the typical cowboy American, while walking puts hands on hips and sticks out elbows. Right arm position not visible. Facial expressions are interesting an varied, but a consistent is his furrowing of the brows which means concentration/frustration/anger felt, either anger/frustration of Israel's perceived genocide of Palestinians, or concentration of reading a text or statements of the news, and focusing on the interpretation of them. Moments of eyebrow flashing as well, on some key words, and eyebrow flashing means the following in a ratio: Emphasis, social approval seeking, and feeling surprised, and my intuition here is that every eyebrow flash from him here is more on emphasis and surprise rather than social approval/social validation. Also moments when he talks about Gaza families or Gaza civilians driven from homes, moments when he eyebrow flashes, again either for surprise or emphasis, he would then furrow his brows while his brows are raised, giving this image of sadness, because part of a face that is displaying full sadness you'd have the eyebrows both raised and furrow a bit, which is a universal emotion as well as other several emotions felt which will flash across the facials. 

   Tonality: is of UK, or GB culture, and speech pattern is British culture, also on moral qualms or moral issues from Israel's actions his tone will have small condemnation of it's military actions and the killing of civilians mixed in with Hamas terrorists, and displacing Palestinians due to damaging buildings and property and increasing the humanitarian crisis there. Consistent tone throughout with moments of condemnation and maybe moral/intellectual superiority and a bit of aloofness, although I could be wrong here because British dialect, accent and cultural tone I could be wrong on, but there could be a possibility he's feeling some contempt and moral/intellectual superiority towards Netanyahu and Israel's actions to Palestinians caught in the crossfires. Also moments of inflexion and emphasis on emotionally charged words or some other keywords with his tone, and also has a punchy tone again found in parts of the UK. My feeling from his dialect and accent is he's in the London area or close to it, as royal family British speaking patterns I could detect from his voice, and in that area there were protests that were pro Palestinian. Also from his tonality and word choices and word values, he seems to value logic and rationality, and values moral/intellectual consistency, so when he addresses the hypocrisy and double standards from western media from the USA and UK over Israel/Palestine conflict, in comparison to Ukraine/Russia conflict he seems contempt towards inconsistency in morals and logic.

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   While I'm dissecting him, this other man is also interesting for body language analysis, and the reporter he has shown:

 

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   A body language analysis interlude:

   Don't like the thumbnail, kind of misleading in font and title, white font on top and dirt yellow on bottom, really? Also smart contemplating pose on right...REALLY?!

   First impressions from Dr. Umar Johnson, he's quite passionate and has an emotionally charged tonality, and great emphasis on some words, and as the video goes you'll see his body language and mannerisms animate far more in emotion addressing the cultural appropriation and as sociology calls 'Bar Adjusting". IMO, while his views can be quite strong, I think there's a kernel of truth regarding Eminem's rise to success and fame partly for his skin colour, and partly because most young white cis gendered males elected him and champion him as a G.O.A.T of rap. I can understand and empathize aa little bit with Umar here, and even Eminem agrees when he said in a rap song 'if I was black I would've sold half'.

Discourse analysis: podcast setting, Umar is on a sofa, the others are seated comfortably. This is also Joe Button's podcast. Specifically when Umar brings up Palestinians and Israel, and claims someone from a different culture or race can't proclaim they're the best within Palestinian or Israeli culture, it makes sense to me, but notice the others reacting, and that one guy changes his posture and sighs loudly...🤣🤣🤣 never gets old for me, that is tell tale for distress and high increase of anxiety that the subconscious mind has to release. Love those sets of non-verbals.

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   This is Dr. Umar Johnson's video after the other one where he said stuff about Eminem, sorry can't find original video and too many reactionaries reacting to that, gonna give me plenty of material to body language analyze reactionaries?

 

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   Here's another good video, will be body language analyzing their tonality, and more on discourse:

 

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On 2023-12-31 at 0:57 AM, Danioover9000 said:

   A long time ago, @Leo Gura has made his video on the 65 + principles of the good life:

   Which IMO worth several re watches and notes, and contemplation. Now witness the power of just one of those principles, open mindedness and also a business principle of 'diversifying your portfolio'(Basically on the abstract having multiple sources of information of one situation, in the concrete for the business contexts that's having multiple investment types, not just invest 'all your eggs into one basket').

   The following situation are body language analysts that covers the Madeline McCann 'disappearance' case here, and the following analysts are:

The behavior panel.

Observe, who also listed a link to a statement analyst's take as well, worth checking out.

And a streamer called Superchuffer.

   IMO this is one of their weaker ones they covered, for some reason they just won't factor in that much potential guilt or possibility of the parents covering up their crime, and their analysis just omits some details and just focuses on the first interview. IMO this video is more conservative and emphasizes less their culpability and more their grief and negative feelings. Compare, contrast and make distinctions with the Observe's analysis and his own perspective and interpretation of their body language:

   IMO it differs more from the 4 behavior panelists, the Observe, his takes are more assertive and more cynical towards their potential guilt and culpability of Madeline's death. Also links in another video by a statement analyst who did a fantastic job interpreting from transcripts from another video their imbedded confession. Let's then see what Super Chuffer has to say of this situation:

   For further context, this guy is a streamer, and although I have bias against streamers, this is one of the few that does it right for me. Very interesting takes and worth some watch through.

    So! What's the biggest takeaway here? As always, it all comes down to developmental factors, which are many, that are cognitive, moral, psychological, from personality types/traits, from shadow aspects of one's ego, up to social factors, and especially ideological beliefs and self biases and preferences that shapes one's interpretation of this situation. Never bet all your chips, or put all your eggs into one basket, always try for multiple sources and consider multiple facets to a situation, which has the nice benefit  of auto correcting for wrongness on your part of the analysis. By having multiple type of analysis, and other perspectives, it does lead to more accurate reads. BTW, the Observe guy is a dog lover and has some Stage Green Spiral Dynamics values of animal welfare. Why is that important? Because in a different video, covering the death of a dog from potential neglect which the couple, social media influencers did euthanasia on, when they did their 'apology' video, he was so triggered it almost undermined any of his objective takes of their body language and tonality he's analyzing, and at the end moralizes against them.  

   I can't believe I missed this one, this one is also good even though he doesn't call himself a body language analyst:

EDIT: Yes, since he covers the language analysis portion, he's effectively doing statement analysis, less rigorously than a professional statement analyst, but overall similar conclusion reached by Observe and the statement analyst he linked.

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On 2023-12-29 at 3:56 PM, Danioover9000 said:

   As suggested by @kenway, I'll be doing some body language, verbal, statement and discourse analysis of this video here:

https://rumble.com/v34qr1q-ryan-dawson-mike-sartain-and-destiny-debate-rusukraine-911-israeli-influenc.html

   So for prior context, this video took place about 5 months ago. This video is made by Fresh & Fit, a Channel biased and preferential of red pill ideology and Mano sphere topics, a bit infamous for featuring Andrew Tate and other kinds of drama for young men and potential scams, also more for men's rights. Destiny is here to talk and debate with Fresh & Fit hosts Amrou Fudl also known online as 'Myron Gaines', featuring the following debaters:

Destiny: 12+ years online debater, political commentator, and online gamer, who was a cleaner, and before that a casino services, who before that was a student in university studying music and somewhere in this time was a conservative and catholic, which currently now is a liberal/liberal democrat with some centrism.

 Mike Sartain: Retired US Airforce captain, an instructor navigator in (Kasey105?), flew in Afghanistan and Iraq for approximately 500 combat hours, did 2 years of counter intelligence also intel(So am already expecting good body language delivery and tonality, and some control over exposures in non-verbals as counter intelligences also covers some body language analysis too), and 'somehow' ended up in Los Vegas hosting bikini competitions, also has the men's mentor program teaching networking and leadership as was taught to him by military, and 'how to bring a hundred girls to party with you'...🤣(I will enjoy reading his mannerisms).

Ryan Dawson: Mostly banned from social media, known as a conspiracy theorist who isn't 'cooked', covers geopolitics topics, some documentaries.

NOTE: these are from their introductions with the exception of Destiny as I was an ex fan of his fanbase, and watched enough of Destiny, the other two are first time hearings, exception being Mike Sartain as he was in a crucible video with Andrew Wilson debating on dating and divorce rates but other than that video not enough research on Mike Sartain. I will also factor in the comments as well to an extent, With that let's dive into this 2 hour video to see their body language, tonality and word choices:

   Discourse analysis: Good debate frame and session, Fresh and fit guys are positioned across each other, far ends of the table, Myron on left and the black guy on far right. Ryan Dawson is to Myron's left, and across Ryan is Destiny. Mike Sartain is in the middle facing the camera guy filming the whole video. The set was questionable, again too close to each other

   Generally speaking, after the opening and first 1 hour, my impressions from Ryan is lower vibe and energy from body to tonality, as he stated it's jet lag. Optically Ryan just seems more passive and submissive. When modal shifting occurs(this means changes to overall posture, shifting a bit to make oneself comfy or change state of mind and framing) Ryan's is a slight arm stretch and slight shifts which are minimal throughout.

   Mike Sartain is IMO the main attraction here, lots of facials, hand gestures, illustrations with hands and head, and some moments of modal shifting when Ryan brought up Israel's possible contacting of the USA prior to 9/11, Iraq stuff, and when Ryan brings up possible misinformation by SEALS navy or soldiers signing in wrong terms, an audible tutting, which in verbal analysis is strong sign of disagreement and disapproval, likely by Mike here. Also, a whole lot of glancing to his left, I assume towards Destiny more than black guy, maybe the many glances are signs of social approval or social connection to Destiny. Also a lot of finger wagging and pointing in certain times towards Ryan more than Destiny, which as I stated before, finger pointing and wagging is to the subconscious mind a strong negative sign of a weapon or strong disagreement(I generally suggest against finger pointing and wagging if your intent is to win rapport and persuade/convince the person you're talking to, unless you want to win the power dynamics game, then do wagging and finger pointing especially with a downwards facing palm, domineering non-verbally.). Generally in tonality and pacing much higher than Ryan's, on par with Destiny's, both seem to mirror each other's body language a bit which makes me feel like they're both were secretly allied and friends that agreed to debate against Ryan here. Especially at the halfway mark when he shifted by going up and down his chair on Ryan's statement of 'they did contacted(Israeli agents)USA about 9/11 potential attack' and Mike's 'okay' was very pointed and direct, followed by his right hand waving dismissively at Ryan's 'credentials' while stating "I watched a ton of your stuff.". Ryan reacted non-verbally by slowly stretching his arms, looking away and downcast, mode shifting a bit.

    As covered, Destiny as usual maintains a closed posturing on table, mostly avoids eye contact and stipples his hands together until he starts increasing his pacing and speech which the hands become animated to emphasis certain word choices. Whenever he makes his 'I don't know' statements he does shrug a bit, and micro scrunches his face in tension a bit, but overall just defensive. There's a few key moments, especially when Ryan brought up him using google searching and an implied suggestion of using his fans to feed him answers Destiny get's a lot more animated, his tonality rises up in retaliation.

   Generally, Myron and black guy's body language is a bit defensive, both in tone and non verbals especially when specific topics in 9/11 and the Russian/Ukraine war brought up, as if non-verbally recoiling at potential cancelations and censorships despite being in Rumble, again some moments of self soothing gestures, and an overall insecurity compensated by a higher tonality and vocal delivery to Destiny and to Mike, sometimes to Ryan. Some moments of micro disgust and micro tensions in specific talking points from Ryan. Especially in moment of bringing it back to topic he almost slaps on the table with his paper on it while trying to bring it to topic to Ryan.

 

   Update for @kenway: I have found a video of Ryan Dawson here:

   I'm happy that this validates my impressions of him and clears it up. Due to him stating he had jet lag I assume his low energy and vibe was limited to jet lag, but here his baseline is consistent with that Destiny video. Mind the low video quality here, plus there's several jump cuts as well. Body language and tonality is consistent, low voice, low energy and vibe, borderline drawling a little bit at times, and yeah has this Lex Fridman energy to him, minus monotone I think there's a little bit of a dialect there from the North Carolina area. Between 2:40 to 2:55, around 2:50, when he's describing his context for the Israel news interview, and how they manipulated his clips and sandwich him in between 2 Neo Nazis, he gave a eye brow flash, and shakes head, and prolonged closing of eyes. Eyebrow flashing typically means the following in a ratio in context: feeling surprise, emphasis, or social connection/approval, and I think in regards to that news, this eyebrow flash is feeling surprised that they did just that, to associate him to Nazis. His prolonged eye closing is typical if internal and cognitive processing or distancing psychologically because generally the body opens up more to gather in more sensory information from surroundings, but when the body and mind perceives a threat, or a situation that caused negative feelings and fear, the body instinctively closes up and closing gestures would crop up non-verbally, and here I think it's less likely internal processing and more psychological distancing from the Neo Nazi label. Finally his no shake, which is typically in the western cultures and western hemisphere, to non-verbally show disagreement, disapproval, sometimes distancing and disappointment, head shake side to side is used, and here it makes sense because he just stated that they used a clip and placed it between two Neo Nazis, and given the widespread social taboo of Nazism it makes sense there would be a no shake with eyebrow flash and eyes closed long. It parallels to false accusations of being a Rapist or Pedophile, as a thought terminating cliche it's psychologically disturbing to even think, therefore the mind and body in conjunction would quickly close down, make itself take in less information as a defensive reflex. Also worth noting eye bags, and dark circles around eyes, maybe a health issue or lack of sleep, which I will guess that Ryan Dawson stays up late to research and do his journalism, I guess. It could be something else.

   Also, in this video's intro, around 0:30 to 1:00 minutes in, I note his eye cues are accessing visual parts of his brain, that he's both remembers an image/scene, then constructed that image/scene because of his prior Barnum statement about 'most' people can't do what he does, followed by small lip compression/dry swallow, then he completes his thoughts by saying most people got a lot of things to hide and can't say, and a micro shrug from his left shoulder(which is an epistemic shrug, feeling of uncertainty, 'I don't know) when referring to him going alternative and away from mainstream, away from 'corporate media'(his shadow and boogeyman), also prior to this statement he looks, downcast eyes to his lower left, eye cue for inner monologuing but also in that direction there's an object which he moves with his left hand, could be both or one over the other. When he tells his story and his start and upbringing, and career, roughly from 1:05 to 1:55, and more on his online career at 2:00 to 2:40, I feel it's quite genuine, especially when he recalls the Island he grew up near North Carolina, moment of eye fluttering rate increase which means internal processing again, followed by lots of eye cues to his upper left, remembering visuals, and his tonality softens when talking about his memories. I feel in those moments he's genuinely recalling memories precious to him.

   In conclusion, I try to check my bias and preference against Destiny, but given this video and Ryan Dawson, and Destiny's slanderous video, I feel quite pissed off at him. It's just disgusting to think some human being would slander Ryan like this, even a morally grounded sociopath would double check and reconsider a smear campaign if he knew prior contexts of this individual if it's a viable strategy. It's a shame really, makes me hate Destiny much more, and this growing online cancerous cult surrounding him and the social media platforms around streamers and gamers, and this guy just get's a free pass and isn't challenged and given backlash for what he did to Ryan Dawson. It's so immature, and I hate the online spaces for allowing this to take place. Now that rant and personal bias over, the soft science of body language analysis I did on this low quality video interview of Ryan Dawson, I conclude he's mostly genuine, and I am happy that I validated an intuitive feeling that Ryan's default is low vibe and low energy, even though maybe on the conspiracy stuff I may disagree, but in terms of communication I feel he's integrous.

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   Very decent coverage of the whole case here too:

   My first impressions: Great coverage of this case, she's got decent body language and tonality. For sure since she's aa parent herself she may be biased going into this case, but I felt like most of her points are accurate, no deception, moments of defensiveness and moments of moral outrage that creeps into her tonality and face when she points out Kate's strange behaviors as a mother, and some on Jerry too, which IMO I share some of her takes since I did a deep analysis on the McCann's body language. In fact with her bringing in more prior context to this case it also made me feel more certain of my past conclusions of them, which also made me feel sick to think about.

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2 hours ago, Danioover9000 said:

   Very decent coverage of the whole case here too:

   My first impressions: Great coverage of this case, she's got decent body language and tonality. For sure since she's aa parent herself she may be biased going into this case, but I felt like most of her points are accurate, no deception, moments of defensiveness and moments of moral outrage that creeps into her tonality and face when she points out Kate's strange behaviors as a mother, and some on Jerry too, which IMO I share some of her takes since I did a deep analysis on the McCann's body language. In fact with her bringing in more prior context to this case it also made me feel more certain of my past conclusions of them, which also made me feel sick to think about.

   Part 2 follow up:

 

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   This is quite the interesting video, somewhat educational but mostly entertainment dunking on some body language analysis YouTube channels. I will do a body language and tonality analysis, as well as discourse and statements to see if she's truthful, joking, maybe defensive or deceptive:

   Firstly it's a good video, for me hard  get a read on her body language and tonality, as she consistently has this resting bitch face, combined with her performative gestures because this is her YouTube video and she's putting on a persona on camera, first off good presentation, visuals, music, humour, mixing both entertainment with some educational coverage, tackling the issue of whether body language analysis is a pseudoscience or not. Onto specifics, the real issue however, is that she mistakes the scammers and con artists in this field for the entire field being a pseudoscience, just akin to how Kanye West had a problem with one individual, very likely, and because of that, which makes him biased and preferential against that one person, generalizes and distorts that negativity onto the group the person represents, she's doing exactly what Kanye West and others with preconceived notions of body language analysis, or any other field that's a soft science or a fringe field or ideology would do, all because it's an alternative field of interest getting popularized into the mainstream culture and she's having this ideological dogmatic reaction against it, specifically likely towards the few individuals that are scammers trying to scam and take advantage of this field.

   However, on the big picture level, and based on many developmental factors like Spiral Dynamics stages of development, cognitive and moral development, personality types/traits(Myers Briggs and Big Five personality traits modal), Architypes(by Carl Jung), 9 stages of ego development(by Jane Loevinger), states of being and becoming and consciousness, Integral Theory's lines of development in life and societal domains(by Ken Wilbur), ideological beliefs indoctrinated by cultural and societal programming, family upbringing, and the information ecology we're all consuming, from social media sites, to alternative/mainstream YouTube videos, news, and many more information points that manufactures consent leveraged by big corporations for conspicuous consumption, and all other prior contexts, she's inaccurate, and wrong, and is misleading and misinforming about her takes of body language, committing lot's of false conflations and some categorical errors with deep ontological, epistemic and methodological ramifications. Firstly she has confused body language analysis for a hard science, and confused what scammers and con artists claiming they're body language experts as pseudoscience. I specifically agree if she has an issue with one or few scammers, swindlers, grifters, fraudsters, opportunists and con artists claiming they're body language experts and being disingenuous via appeals to authority, pathos, ethos and sometimes logos, their fallacies committed, and taking advantage of a customer base, but her framing is dishonest and bad faith here because she has issue with HOW THEY'RE COMMUNICATING, and conflates that to labeling the ENTIRE BODY LANGUAGE FIELD AS A PSEUDOSCIENCE and the COMMUNITY OF BODY LANGUAGE ANALYSTS AS PSEUDOSCIENCE FOOLS. Here she's confusing and conflating, and judging the whole field I consider a soft science more so than art. She's projecting hard science standards and scientific methods that bias and preferences for qualitative methods, methodologies, and hard science that bias for mathematics, engineering, physics, chemistry, technology, materialism, rationalism, and reductionism, standards based solely on hyper controlled laboratory conditions  and thinking that this line of thinking justifies her case and assertion for body language as a pseudoscience. Ontologically, metaphysically and epistemically she has made a big categorical error and asymmetrically judges body language with hard science and academia standards, when she in fact should have used soft science, sociology, psychology and qualitative methodology, methods and standards to judge and discern the body language field instead, and she should have instead focused on the scammers themselves specifically, and not generalize and distort her criticism for one person onto a group/field of interest. Very good example of misleading and misinforming, and the ego thinking it's right in doing so. In fact the majority of her argument points, you can reflect that back at her and she's as guilty as her criticisms of body language experts as well, if not some more from just the misunderstanding and conflating a few scammers and labeling the entire field as a pseudoscience because she suffers from the same confirmation biases against not just body language as a perceived pseudoscience, but might as well any scientific field that's paranormal/supernatural and fringe as a pseudoscience. Another deeper problem is that she underestimates the deep problems with science and academia as a field, and underestimates the deep bias they have in thinking they can just view the entire world, or parts of nature and categorize each into neat little boxes, into small picture thinking, and treat life like it's a controlled experiment, in laboratory conditions. Nope, life is far more complicated than rationalists and materialists have you believe, especially the part when a group of academic scientists, biased for academia culture, attempting to critique Paul's work as pseudoscience is THEIR PROJECTION AND BIASED PREFERENTIAL STANDARDS.

   To be clear, I ain't attacking her, or critiquing her from selfishness, or defending the scammers, but I just hate this deep misunderstanding and mistake she's doing here, just because a field of interest has a few scammers DOESN'T MAKE THE ENTIRE FIELD PSEUDOSCIENCE! Tired of when people generalize and distort reality when they have grievance for one person or a few persons, but then project that onto an entire field or group. That's ridiculous and callous behavior.

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   Quite an interesting share, both the introduction and speech given, video by @Carl-Richard. I will give my body language analysis, verbal, discourse, and some statement analysis when it's relevant:

   My impressions of the speaker introduction: Intuitively felt defensive to me. Main reason is the constant slight lip compressions and retractions, with a few moments when he really lip compresses/retracts especially at 0:04, "for LGBT people" then quick lip compression/tension, with most statements ending with this micro tension around lips. At 0:15, 'everyone has an opinion' small smile to lip compression. and 'everyone has something to say' is followed by eyebrow flash and lip compression(eyebrow flash means feeling surprise, emphasis or social connection, given the discourse, setting and context likely emphasis and social approval more so than surprise), and the words 'LGBT youth' more obvious lip retraction but also could be a mouth shrug because lower lips raise very quickly(mouth shrugging is the same as an epistemic shrug, meaning feeling uncertainty, uncomfortable or anxious, an 'I don't know' feeling/thinking about a person, people, situation, or what he just said, incongruency between conscious and subconscious mind here). Overall good body language, good performative illustrators and signs especially since he's on a podium addressing the audience. Especially suspicious when he does his call to action for the audience to buy tickets to see other Wachowski movies, feels far more non-verbal signs of incongruency, and micro shame, as if he can't believe what he's saying to the audience. Especially the part where he's welcoming Lana on stage, all felt very performative and exaggerated. Felt so cringe, which is probably why Lana felt that need to joke about that introduction.🤣

   My impressions of Lana Wachowski, her introducing herself, addressing the speaker, her actual speech: Generally Lana felt to me very reserved, her overall body language and tonality felt subdued and slight defensiveness with moments of trying to relieve nervous tension with plenty of jokes and some self deprecating humour, plenty of joking around to try and persuade the audience's states while trying to also influence her state of being as well, probably crowd nervousness due to type of discourse and setting which she does say she's not used to public speaking, but I actually felt that, when she takes a deep inhale(indicative of distress and trying to relieve stress), then tuts(verbal strong disagreement/disapproval, likely to him and less to audience or situation she's about to be in) and feels the paper she has with tension/some fidget, followed by her joking at him "I'm gonna make a sequel to that LITTLE INTRO I THINK(verbal micro tension here, definitely belittling his presentation of her)"while shaking her/his arms and shoulders a bit, leans into the mic, and audibly slams her hands and paper down onto the podium surface, definitely not happy with his intro and/or trying to release nervous tension.

   If I do have more time, definitely something interesting with her speech and what she wrote, definitely statement analysis needed here, which will be time intensive for me. There's also some interesting non-verbals and even moments of incongruency as well.

 

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   Due to me having similar interests in music and rap, and due to how this one interview just 'broke' the internet, gaining 38 mil views, And how some of the snippets IMO felt strange, I decide I'll do some body language, verbal, discourse and statement analysis on this video. So this video is an interview of Katt Williams, a comedian, that tells all about how corrupt music and Hollywood industry is:

 

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   Well, the 4  behavior analyst panel also has their coverage of this situation:

   After their lack luster coverage of the Madeline McCann case, I am more skeptical of their analysis here, so in this one I will be reading their reads on this situation, for truth or falsehhod:

 

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