Having a Conservative Mindset

[charlie cho]

I didn't know this about myself in the past. But doing the personality test really gave it out for me who I was personality-wise. Though, I always had a tough harded minset throughout my life, I knew I had a soft side to me from the very start, despite computers, tests, people telling me otherwise. I was tough enough to counter them. Maybe that's why I always crutched onto how I was a pisces, that I always had a soft side to my personality. 

Recently, doing an enneagram test, I realized one of my tritype was enneagram 6. Anxiety was indeed part of my life from the very start. And I learnt enneagram 6 was the most conservative type among the head/mind types. So I asked ChatGPT4 if I could categorize enneagram 6 as a conservative intellectual thinker, whereas enneagram 5 is more of a progressive intellectual thinker and enneagram 7 simply being neutral or being individualistic in its endeavors in the intellectual space. The machine agreed to how I saw it, so I accepted my analysis of my personality type. That I am quite conservative in the way I thought. 

This has nothing to do with political conservatism, maybe it influences it very little because my main personality types are very head strong and individualistic. 

Enneagram 6s tend to look for authority, (I remember Leo commenting on my being too reliant on authority figures to believe) because it's in constant anxiety from danger. So its prime motivation is security. There is nothing wrong with seeking for security. When it is healthy, because it is secure, it can be courageous and the most loyal friend type amongst others. 

My concern is this. My whole life, because I was so scared of danger, I found it hard to make friends. It was easy for me to cut people off. I even posted on this forum how I will not accept stupid behavior when people text with weird emojis and emotional crap over my text box. This isn't because I'm a narcassist ego maniac, but it's because I'm scared as fuck. I'm scared of idiots ruining my life either emotionally or physically. Emotions are the worst, because I know I can defend myself physically. Since I'm not completely enlightened as maybe how Leo is (haha), I can be prone to emotional dangers from either women, or stupid chumps. 

But this conservative mindset had made me study things too long, and maybe not take action unlessI knew everything, I mean every fucking thing by the T. To the point that may be even progressive thinkers would think I'm too security oriented. I would not advance unless I know all the minute proofs of a mathematical equation, no matter how a teacher would just pass me an A. If I didn't know, fuck that teacher, I don't give a fuck, I will understand it to the bitter end, before I advance.

This mindset isn't superior or inferior to a progressive mindset. It is indeed less goal-oriented, and it is more safe. But it can create a lot of enemies and misunderstandings if it additionally pairs up with enneagram 3 and 8, where it's constantly combative and doesn't gives a damn about others too much. "Not only is he bossy! He will not do what I tell him to do fast! He must be lazy and bossy!" I got this many times in my life, people thinking I'm lazy. But I'm simply secure-oriented to the T, paranoid. Mindset comes from 'only the paranoid survive' type. 

But I feel this is driving me crazy a little bit, because it has come to the point where I know myself it has got out of hand. Micromanagement and scared of advancement (unless I know all the fucking technical details!), this mindset is detoriating. Maybe it's coming to good results at this point, since I know where my situation now is, but still, it's mentally toiling me. 

What should I do? I would need help with people who progress faster with their knowledge work, or are more individualistic in their work. If you are a scared person like me, please comment on this post too, tell me how you feel about this situation. 

I will not comment on how technical I am with my life, because it's embarassing how detail oriented my mind is. Just imagine, how Germans invested in chemistry education in their schools, just so they could get a competitive advantage in terms of military strength, when they had nothing other than great scientific minds in their military security defense, before WW1, and how that led them to dominate so much in the later wars in Europe, because they invested in studying 'chemistry' and 'math'. To the neighboring country, this investment on 'education' may seem too trivial, but it was really something that differentiated power militarily against france and england. 

One of the many problems I have is this: I wouldn't write a song, unless I've understood all the minute details of studying fundamental music theory. Despite me having enough knowledge to write. Just to give you context, but I have far more bad situations than just this stupid situation. 

Edited June 21, 2023 by charlie cho

[Leo Gura]

I used to need everything pre-planned, planned out in detail. Then I did pickup and it drilled into me how to be spontaneous and not need plans for anything. How to make decisions quickly without needing to be sure.

Edited June 21, 2023 by Leo Gura

[charlie cho]

12 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

I used to need everything pre-planned, planned out in detail. Then I did pickup and it drilled into me how to be spontaneous and not need plans for anything. How to make decisions quickly without needing to be sure.

@Leo Gura I, on the contrary, thought you were very spontaneous, progressive thinker. Even physically, making videos... etc, you are very creative, you seem to have no problem with acting things out fast.

I actually have no problem socializing, as you just suggested to me to do, on the daily, with the exception of making any friends. Maybe, since you've just suggested to me to do this, I should implement more spontaneous thinking, not preplanning things too much with my social life. 

But I wonder what about with me and work. Planning and executing business ideas for example, work. Work that is not exclusively related to socializing. Shooting a video, writing an essay/book, planning and executing on experiments, rather than constantly reading on my ipad, writing music and actually picking up my guitar, not reading or watching constantly about music theory. I guess what you say can be implemented very well with socializing, but I don't know how talking to women will help with my impersonal pursuits. 

Edited June 21, 2023 by charlie cho

[Leo Gura]

I am the most openminded person on this planet. And I am also exceptionally creative.

[Buck Edwards]

Just now, Leo Gura said:

I am the most openminded person on this planet. And I am also exceptionally creative.

Does your creativity stem from love? 

[charlie cho]

@Leo Gura I don't understand. 

[Florian]

10 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

I am the most openminded person on this planet. 

How do you know?

[Princess Arabia]

1 hour ago, Florian said:

How do you know?

Leo is the most everything on this planet. Leave him alone. It's called Solipsissm. ?

[How to be wise]

13 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

I am the most openminded person on this planet.

Says the person who referred to conservative media as mind herpes. 

[Leo Gura]

1 hour ago, How to be wise said:

Says the person who referred to conservative media as mind herpes. 

I stand by my statement.

[Leo Gura]

4 hours ago, Florian said:

How do you know?

Just a hunch.

[Florian]

6 hours ago, Princess Arabia said:

Leo is the most everything on this planet. Leave him alone. It's called Solipsissm. ?

bruh

 

3 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Just a hunch.

idk man maybe, propably not.

You think that openmindedness is natural or comes from the work on yourself and psychedelics?

[r0ckyreed]

6 hours ago, How to be wise said:

Says the person who referred to conservative media as mind herpes. 

Being mentally gullible and foolish isn’t the same as being openminded. You entertain possibilities until you realize that some possibilities aren’t worth your time entertaining. How do you know when that time is? By being openminded first and exploring and realizing that Andrew Tate is not a good person to follow.