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[Buck Edwards]

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"Maturity is achieved when a person postpones immediate pleasures for long term values." 

Rabbi Joshua Liebman. 

What is maturity? 

Let's contemplate that shall we. Contemplate it together. Have you noticed that some people are mature and others in fact most are immature, surely you've noticed this, in your short period on this planet. Have you ever wondered what makes that difference. And why would anyone wanna be mature. And what is the process for how to become mature, what does that even mean, what does that look like, I'm going to give you an extensive list here of what constitutes maturity and immaturity but I also want to help you not just to give you the answers but to help you to contemplate this stuff for yourself because it's not obvious what maturity is it's difficult to define I have to spend many hours contemplating it, explicating it to myself, so that I could share here with you, but let's start off our inquiry here, by acknowledging that you don't know what maturity is. I mean you know what that word means, you can look up in the dictionary but what does it really look like to be a mature human being what does that what is that process, what kind of behaviors, constitute that, that's not obvious, a lot of immature people don't know. So how do you solve this problem if you don't know where do you go to get the answers. Where am I getting the answers, well. I'm contemplating. This is a process I've explained in the past (ref episode how to contemplate). Contemplate using a journal. Ask powerful questions. So what you do is you start just wondering and contemplating from scratch. It's always good to just begin from scratch because answers coming from other people can distort your thinking and already they will skew and bias your mind into thinking along some sort of predefined direction, towards, some kind of ideology, dogma, group think, that sort of thing, it's always good to just think independently from scratch about these things. Then you have a chance to generate some original answers and then you can later compare notes with what other people have said online so here's a question, what are some of the clearest examples of maturity that you can think of surely you have run across people who are mature in your life and you have run across many who are immature, but then if you look at their behaviors, what is it actually that made you say oh, that's a very immature person or that's a very mature person or that's a book written by a very mature person that contains a lot of very mature wisdom about life or you see some celebrity on TV behaving immaturely what does that look like, what are they doing. So the most powerful way that I know how to contemplate is and I'm teaching you here how to contemplate this is contemplation exercise I want you to try some of this stuff, but the way that I try to contemplate completely from scratch is - I ask myself ok what are some examples of the thing I'm working on, if I'm working on because if I'm working on an abstraction like maturity what the hell does that even mean so you have to make it concrete with examples. So I pull up in my mind at least one example of the most immature person I know and the most mature person and I just ask myself questions like well what's the difference between them, who do you know or have or have met who is obviously immature in what ways did they behave that make you think so. This is stuff I want you to actually contemplate pause and contemplate this. Write down some answers. Answers. Maturity is not a matter of age, many adults and old people can be immature. Although it's interesting because generally speaking the more People age, the more mature they become. So there is some correlation between age and maturity, but it's by no means a perfect correlation. As of course, one of the things we say is that we commonly say that children are immature. That's the difference, supposed to be between a child and an adult. The child's an immature adult isn't it? Is mature. So that's another way to be another angle from which to kind of look at this issue. Is what's the difference between adults and children, adults and children? Fundamentally, what's the difference there? What are they doing differently? How is the child behaving immaturely? And how is the adult behaving maturely? Now, of course a lot of adults days, they act like children. 

So you have to be careful with that. You can't assume that every adult is mature. Some children are more mature than some adults but generally speaking this is the case and then that makes you wonder well but why why does age make one more mature? What does age have to do with it even though it's not a perfect correlation. And what does it look like? And what does it mean to mature with age? What is doing the maturing there? And why are children generally immature? Why are children born mature? 

These are very fundamental questions. 

Maturity is not a binary so it's not an on/off switch, it's a spectrum of course you can have more and more and more levels of maturity. And you can have a mixed bag. You can have a person who is mature in many ways, but then immature in certain other areas of life. A lot of times people have imbalanced lopsided development, for example, someone could be mature  in many different ways, but then immature  sexually  and their relationships, immature in their Spiritual Development or in their understanding of spirituality metaphysics, epistemology or immature morally. 

So, Just because someone has generally mature, doesn't mean they have all their bases covered. In fact, most likely, you're going to have at least one or two areas where you're really struggling are strongly deficient. 

Then also you have to wonder what are the costs of being mature or becoming mature Is maturity something that you're just born with? There are some people who are just genetically more mature than other people 

Is Maturity something, you have to develop over time and if you're going to develop it over time, first of all, why would you want to? And second of all, what's good the cost because supposedly, if it was just all upside and no downside, Wouldn't everybody be developing maturity? That everybody would be mature. And if you look around in our society or culture actually, most people are very immature. How come? 

But that you also have to wonder so then if there are cost to being mature does that mean I should just stay immature but then what are the costs of staying immature? And which costs are greater. So these are all questions to get your mind jogging and thinking and I just I really want you to contemplate this on your own. But, you know, since I want to provide you with some value here in this, in this episode, let me give you some extensive lists of my own conclusions from my own contemplations on these questions.

So, let's see number one is what is maturity. First and foremost at top. My list is taking on responsibility versus blaming others. This is like 

Quick litmus test  - taking responsibility. For gauging, someone's maturity. Immature person, is going to blame somebody else. You're not going to take ownership over situations. They need other people to goad  gaude them into doing things and taking ownership.

Whereas a mature person takes on the responsibility willingly. Consciously. 

Doesn't wait around for others to do it for them. Doesn't need some sort of extrinsic prodding either by humans, or by Nature. 

Very irresponsible people, immature people. What they do is they just they wait for reality to get so dire and bad that then they're just forced to do a thing where as the Hallmark of maturity  is that you can motivate yourself to do something. You know, you should be doing the right thing so to speak without having to be in pain and suffering from external circumstances. Like for example, going broke and running completely out of money that would be an immature person's response to the financial situation, right? It's like I'm going to spend all my money and then I'm only going to worry about running out of money once I'm out of money. But then the problem is, it's too late. It's very difficult to them. Do anything about that situation, right? A mature person will worry about their money situation long before they ever run out of  money and therefore they never will. And they take responsibility for that. 

Maturity is knowing that you can act like a child but consciously choosing not to It's doing the right thing at the right time rather than putting it off which requires discipline immatur people are not able to discipline themselves and they put stuff off and they put stuff off and they put stuff off and they don't do the right thing at the right time and most of the time, most of us know, the right thing to do and the right time to do it. But we're just so irresponsible and immature that we find ways to avoid it. So maturity  is letting go of that that sort of avoidance mechanism that is there an ego mind it's taking on emotionally difficult things in life doing things that are challenging and life will present you with many challenges to live the good life you have to take on these emotionally difficult tasks or what you can do is you can play avoidance games which is what the immature person does. So mature, he is saying no to those kind of avoidance games. Maturity also means work ethic not expecting shortcuts being willing to work towards certain higher values that you have. So one of the Hallmarks of an immature person is that they're lazy and they don't want to work towards the things that are good for them or that they want you might want something but then when you find out the work that takes to get it you're like I would rather just sit on the couch and play video games and smoke weed and jerk off. The mature Person understands that working for the things that you really value. This, this builds character in you This is not something that should be avoided is not the ideal situation where you get everything you want in life. The easy way through shortcuts, and it all works out, and there's no challenge. So, mature person doesn't even want that kind of life. You see the immature person thinks that that's the ideal life and in the immature person whines and complains about how, oh, well, why does life have to be so difficult? Whereas the mature person understands that what makes life meaningful at all is that you have to work for these things that you truly value that they're not easy. And if they were easy, you can get them just by snapping your fingers and people just gave them to you, then they wouldn't be worth anything, and then you wouldn't really want them is because they are rare and the reason they are rare is because you had to work for it. 

So, I like to judge people's character by looking at.What is their work ethic? 

I like to judge people's character by looking at what is their work ethic? Are they the kind of people that like to avoid work at all costs and do the bare minimum amount of work? This tells you almost everything you need to know about a person's character right there. That's not a serious human being. There is no good lifestyle. I mean like, I don't mean lifestyle. I mean, living the good life. This is something a little more deeper than just lifestyle with this this concept, I've talked about before, living the good life, there is no living the good life, and having it easy. Nobody, who lives the good life, has it easy? Because he can't live the good life just by getting lucky and getting a bunch of money. That's not going to produce the good life for you. 

And a mature person understands this and that these challenges that life confronts you. With that, this is actually a character building exercise an opportunity and that's really the point of life. So what's the point in trying to run away from it or avoid it? 

To be mature as to face the challenges of life gracefully sometimes life gets extremely challenging that's when you're really tested. And that's when the immature person will crumble in the mature, person will demonstrate his, or her true character facing that challenge rather than running away from it. Now, of course, that doesn't mean that you're going to succeed or do it perfectly, but at least the willingness to take on that challenge. And to give it your best. Maturity is also a sense of duty  to others to your community, to Mankind, and even beyond that to the entire universe. Your life is about something more than just, Selfishly trying to entertain yourself or amuse yourself. 

Maturity is the ability to sacrifice for higher values, which of course requires having a good discernment of, what are the higher values. And that's not always easy, because a lot of times people get confused and they think of higher value things as money, or sex or something like that success Fame. 

Those become traps. So the ability to discern, what is a higher value? It's not a higher value. Those can be counter intuitive, and it's also the ability to commit. 

Because to live a life to the higher values that you have, you have to make certain commitments and stick with those over long periods of time. This is not something you're going to achieve what short-term thinking .

As I was contemplating this question of what his maturity this following, anecdote came to mind. And I was just thinking recently about how having a child is one of the greatest responsibilities you can take on in life, having a child, it will change your whole life. Even though I don't have children, it's obvious to me that this is how it works. You just think about it for a little bit. You don't really appreciate the responsibility. Your parents took a long until you're much older. The kind of responsibility they had raising you

especially if you had decent parents, who weren't completely immature and they were there for you. They weren't negligent parents. It didn't run away or anything like that. If they were there for you and they worked for you, and they raised you reasonably well,  just the enormity of the task that you're  parents had to raise you well and how much they sacrificed and what kind of enormous responsibility took from them. And the kind of enormous maturity it took from them even if they were perfectly mature and they did immature stuff. Of course, that's a given but but nevertheless compared to who they used to be before they had  you you don't even know what your parents were like before they had you how irresponsible and immature they were your birth made them a lot more mature, it take you a while to realize that. At least, you know, in most cases, of course, there's examples of very bad parenting and it's very immature parenting. So maybe maybe you got unlucky, but I submit to you. The following consider that the day that your child is born. If you ever have a child you will realize it in that day your whole life will change because you'll realize holy shit. My life is no longer primarily about serving myself. Now, I have to be a responsible adult but for the sake of someone else. 

And then later when your Child is crying. You know, when your child is 10 years old or something, your child is crying, but you're very tired yet a long day at work and you're just, you just come home after 10 hours of working and now you turn on the TV. Just want to relax for a little bit before you go to bed. You're dead tired. And then your child is there crying in the other room. You have two options there, you can keep watching your TV and just tune the child out, or you can get up and attend to your child. That would be the mature option. 

And that's sacrifice your sacrificing for something higher, something Beyond you. You're living for something Beyond you. 

So consider, how you would handle that kind of situation. Imagine you had a child tomorrow, would you be mature enough to handle take care of that child? Because see here,taking care of  that child means you have to set all your personal issues, aside, you know, your personal sexual Cravings, your desire to have fun your desire to do, drugs and smoke weed, and do psychedelics your desire to slack off, and to go partying and clubbing, all this kind of stuff, this would all this would all have to take a back seat, you know. 

Backseat to the needs of your child. If your child is sick, you got to get up in the middle of the night. Take them  to a hospital. If your child is getting bad grades at school, you got to deal with that. And it's just a never-ending stream of this for 20 years. 

And you never know how your child is going to turn out your child could. Maybe you do all that perfectly in your child is a sort of a straight, A student and all that kind of stuff and you're proud of your child. But you know what, there's no guarantee, you could be the best parent and your child just gets involved with the wrong crowd starts doing drugs, starts doing vandalism joins a gang starts robbing People starts doing violence, maybe even murder someone. 

That could happen, too. 

And that's largely out of your control. 

That's a serious maturity right there. That takes a lot of maturity to deal with that kind of stuff. 

Just even, for example, let's say your child is born with a birth defect. 

Just even taking even dealing with that Health. You know, serious health complications to it. Like imagine you're born with a cripple that I mean, your yeah, your child is born crippled or something like that and then you have to deal with that for the rest of your life. Imagine how what kind of Burden that puts on you that takes enormous maturity to just stick with that and not run away from that Kind of situation to embrace it, to accept it to still love your child, despite all that. So good parenting being a good parent is, is is also another one of those litmus tests that's like that's like such a such an honest signal kind of litmus test. You can't fake being a good parent. That takes enormous maturity. You can't be a good parent and be immature. 

Another important aspect of maturity is self-control. Immaturity is being constantly lost in your own emotions. Unable to act, consistently gently peacefully. Deliberately you're too chaotic. You're all over the place, your mind is all over the place. 

You're lost in drama. So, knowing how to handle your emotions. Emotional maturity is a Hallmark of I'm sorry Emotional Mastery is a Hallmark of maturity, not getting triggered so easily by things people say or do this is a notion known as non reactivity. Immature, people are very reactive, they get easily offended, easily, triggered, Because they're not in control of their emotions. 

Steadiness and  consistency versus drama and Chaos. This is the difference. 

Also patience. Immature people are impatient. Always immature. Matured People have cultivated patience. 

Another key sign that I've identified of maturity is the following. I love this one. Listen to this. Refusing to engage in an emotional manipulation techniques. 

Huge. What do I mean by emotional manipulation techniques? Things like blaming scapegoating gaslighting denial, getting triggered, getting offended, losing your temper, projection and rationalization. 

Immature people engage in all of this stuff all the time and they don't know how to stop. They don't even understand that they're doing it and they have no shame in doing these things. That's how unconscious they are. 

 

 

 

Edited June 14, 2023 by Enlightement

[Buck Edwards]

Next. 

It is the Hallmark of a mature mind to relinquish all of these. 

You say no to emotional manipulation techniques, you have higher standards for yourself and you don't allow yourself to use these to navigate life. Now, that means you have to Forfeit and surrender, certain benefits that come with using these emotional manipulation techniques, 

The mature person doesn't demonize strawman and misrepresent. The mature person is non-judgmental and non exploitative. See, the immature person will exploit any opportunity because it's just a, it's a survival mechanism. We've talked about survival go, see my two part series called understanding Survival, part, 1, part 2 or we go deep on Survival but or bring that topic in here and connecting it with this is that when you're just running on survival all the time, then you're the easiest way to do that is just to be very opportunistic and if you see an opportunity to exploit someone especially another human, you do it. 

Mature person says no to that. Even when an opportunity presents itself to exploit someone, you just you aren't even tempted by it. 

An immature person under takes a commitment to not manipulate people, whereas immature people are always manipulating other people to get their needs met. Whereas the mature person finds higher-quality ways of getting his needs Met than through this kind of manipulation and emotional manipulation that we talked about earlier, Now, this usually means that this kind of mature person has to work harder. Because he can't just manipulate and exploit somebody real quickly, you know, to steal some money, or scam them, or whatever, or to get some sex out of them. You have to actually like, put in effort, see an immature person, just manipulate somebody to get some quick sex but a mature person has higher standards. They don't allow themselves to do that. That means they sacrifice the quality of sex because they have to actually work in a towards building, a high quality relationship before they will get the sex. 

It's not some kind of easy manipulation likewise in business. The difference between an immature business person, a mature business person that they the image represents prison person will just find the fastest opportunity to scam somebody out of some money. Whereas the mature person is interested in doing business that way.  it's not that he can't he can it's just that he has a higher standard and he doesn't want to do business that way. So now it's harder is harder to come up with a with a genuine business where I'm not exploiting people because that Means I have to generate real value. Generating real value takes a lot of hard work whereas just scamming people is a lot easier. It's pretty much explains the whole crypto industry, right here. 

Crypto is immature people looking for a quick profit? They're not interested in working. 

This idea of not wanting to do genuine work. This is a huge point, right? Try to understand. It's not just about, like, oh, I don't want to have a job or, you know, I want to optimize my work. It's like, there's a whole attitude that people have of living in a way where they try to avoid doing work and not just work, but really it's emotional labor, that you're avoiding. That's a, that's a more General thing. I've talked about that in actually my life, purpose course in my life, purpose course we focus on this issue. Ooh, of avoiding emotional labor and how this is really tripping up in life. You can't live a good life without taking on emotional labor. And that doesn't just apply to work per se. It also comes up in relationships and and it comes up in this next point, which is this is also, you could, I mean, it's hard to say which one of these points is like the topmost point, definitely that responsibility. 

Point is up there as number one maybe and here's probably the next one is facing truth. The mature person faces truth. 

And the mature person sees the importance of facing truth, all throughout life. Whereas the immature person is avoiding difficult truths, because they're inconvenient or they impinge on one's fantasies see, the problem with truth is that it impinges on your fantasies. It destroys all your fantasies about yourself about the world, about others, about religion, about politics, everything, see my episode called Why you avoid the truth? So, that ties in here. 

But I want you to contemplate this this is, this is so essential and fundamental to maturities facing truth. And you know, Most people don't give a shit about truth. 

Which immediately tells you why? Most people are immature. They don't care about truth. They don't take truth, seriously? They think they can just kind of, like, skate their way through life, without taking truth seriously. Seriously, how people can, even how people can do that to themselves, This, this kind of mindset, I don't even understand. Truth was important to me  since I was a child, but that again, I was a pretty mature kid, but I want you to kind of ask this question, why is it immature to avoid truth? What is the relationship between facing truth and maturity? Why are those connected? It's not some arbitrary thing. There's, there's a deep relationship. What is that relationship? contemplate That. To be mature as to be deeply rooted in the reality of things rather than  lost in wishful, thinking and fantasy. You see, human mind is so prone to spinning its own versions of reality, and avoiding truth and fantasizing and justifying itself and then getting lost in various kinds of ideological, Bubbles and different, worldviews and Cults and religions in this ideology. And that philosophy, right? This is what the human mind is always doing.  this is  what much of my  work is about is helping you to avoid these kind of self-deceptions of the Mind especially when it comes to epistemology. But you see The more immature person is, the worst their worldview is. Their worldview is not truthful, it's not accurate. They're living in a fantasy of some kind and then the reason they're acting out So immaturely is because they need to somehow maintain that fantasy and usually that's done through lying cheating stealing, Defrauding scamming exploiting manipulating acting out, emotional outbursts, drama, all this shit. 

The more untruthful you're, the more these sorts of emotional manipulation mechanisms, you need to survive through life. 

Maturity is about deep understanding of situations because the deeper you can penetrate a situation with your understanding. 

That cuts through illusion, see it cuts through  illusion. So there is a relationship between illusion and immaturity. Immature People are under a lot of Illusions because they don't value truth and because they avoid truth and they think they can get away with that. 

One of  the Hallmarks of immaturity is thinking you can get away with untruth, with falsehood. 

Mature person understands that. Truth is such a serious issue. That you're really a fool, If you think you can just skate by through life bobbing and weaving your way, deftly avoiding the truth and thinking that you're just going to get by. 80 years, you can do this and get by without consequence. This is to the mature mind, This is preposterous, this is a Preposterous way to live. Immature Minds actually believes this is a good way to live and then actually it's winning at this because you can do it for a short period of time, for short period of time, for maybe even 40 years or for a decade you can you can do this. And then the immature mind gets convinced or fools itself and falls into this illusion, that it has spun for itself, That actually, this is gonna work. You know, it's like I've cheated a few people and I've made some some money and I'm going to keep doing this, it's going to keep working. This is how the mind thinks. Or it's like, you know, I've manipulated a few of these women to sleep with me by lying to them and cheating on them. And it's just gonna continue. I'm just gonna continue this and it's going to keep working.

The next point on maturity is epistemic humility. 

Epistemic humility and not knowing understanding the power and importance of not knowing go see my episode The Power of not knowing. You know, a lot less than you think, you know, the mature person understands that, the immature person does not, the immature person does not have epistemic humility. I've talked about that a lot in my past episodes on epistemology. Go check. 

Maturity is being honest versus lying and  cheating. 

Maturity is to be able to see outside your own perspective and agenda to see from others perspectives. And immature person is too selfish to see outside his own perspective and is lost in Self Bias. Go see my episode titled Self Bias and another one called understanding bias. Very important episodes. Also that relates to truth, you know this issue of bias. Why is it so important? Why do I talk about a lot? Because again, it relates to truth. Because the less truthful you're, the more illusions you're under, the more biased you're bias is illusion in a sense and your own perspective and agenda your own Survival agenda, that is your primary source of bias. 

Another point on maturity is to be respectful of the sovereignty of others to understand the importance that I talked about that elsewhere, the sovereignty of others. What does that even mean? I've explained it elsewhere. 

But basically, it means understanding that every human is a sovereign individual, sovereign consciousness. And needs to be treated as such. As soon as you stop, treating people in that way by manipulating them and trying to control them and push them around and so forth, dominate them. All hell breaks loose. 

So respecting other sovereignty means not trying to control others. Not trying to impose your agenda on them and your perspective and not trying to 

Get everyone else to live the way that you live. 

Understanding that you don't need to impose yourself on everybody else. Appreciating that people have unique needs values, strengths weaknesses, personality types, and everyone has to live their own unique lifestyle. So, what's an example of an application of this like this? Like if you're an immature parent, you're going to try to get your child to on, to obey, basically your agenda, you're going to overlook the sovereignty of your child as an individual Consciousness and you're going to say you know your child might come to you and you might ask that your child is. So what do you want to be when you grow up and your child says I want to be an artist and you says you say an artist, No. That's that that's nonsense. You're going to be a doctor or a lawyer or an accountant you know a real profession or an engineer like this and your child will say no, I you know I really have some artistic abilities and I don't like accounting and Engineering. I'm not good at that, you'll say no to hell with that. You're just going to become an accountant. 

See, this would be. An example of immature, parenting, whereas mature parenting would be actually listening to your child, evaluating your child's unique needs, strengths weaknesses, passions, and privilections and personality type. And understanding that if your child is not passionate about accounting, he's never going to become a good accountant in effect. He'll probably quit and he'll blame you for it. Whereas you know, if he's got some passion for art, it's your job is to see. The challenge of being a mature adult parent is that like you have to set aside your own agenda, and what you want for your child, because your child might want things that Are antithetical to your personality type. You might think that the things your child is interested in are stupid and you have to set that aside and say, you know what, for the good of my child. I can't just it doesn't really matter what my personal judgment is about what he's doing is stupid or not. It's like there's a higher  aspect to all this. See that requires that's what That's how immature parent would behave. Usually as a parent the trap is that you're going to want to like impose all of your values on the child, your values, your personality type your lifestyle. And then that's gonna create a lot of conflicts. Of course, your child has different strains with this is personality values and lifestyle than That is ideal for them than for you. You can't just assume that are ideal lifestyle is their ideal lifestyle. 

That's real difficult to do because you got to step outside of your agenda. A lot of people are so selfish that they literally cannot do that. And then that creates a lot of Family, conflict relationship conflict of course. 

Maturity is also the ability to compromise. 

The ability to be flexible to change your mind. See, immature people think that compromises the bad thing a Dirty Word. Especially like in politics. You'll notice this that the most mature politicians understand the importance of compromise in a democracy, the most immature politicians and political actors and activists. 

They view compromise as some kind of evil, they want to get everything their way and they want to defeat the other side. They actually believe they can do that, you know? Some conservatives actually believe that they're going to, you know, destroy liberalism and some progressives and leftists believe it, they're going to destroy and put an end to conservativism. See some of my videos about conscious politics or  you know, I discuss about the you know there's a deep immature in our political climate right now which is playing itself out very, very immature. In fact,  I'm shocked at how a maturity it is its cartoonishly immature. 

 

 

Edited June 14, 2023 by Enlightement

[Buck Edwards]

I'll be talking about Politics here in a moment because there's some great examples that I just can't resist. You probably know which ones but okay. We'll get there in a minute. See also the ability to compromise. Like you'll see that the most senior senators and politicians in Congress. They're pretty good at compromising compromising whereas the new ones, there's like a lot of sort of like, radical, especially on the right wing in American politics. There's a lot of radical new senators and congress people who came into power in The Last 5 Years, let's say in this Maga era and you look at these people and they're just, they're very passionate, they're unwilling to compromise and they think that by doing this that they're somehow being like champions for for conservative values or whatever. They believe they're defending God or country or whatever. But you can tell that these are the most immature, the most green, the most ignorant these people don't know a thing  about government. They don't know nothing about serious politics. They have, they have no understanding of history, how societies, develop, they have no understanding of History. Just utterly ignorant. And they're the most unyielding and inflexible. coincidence!!!! I think not.

 

Another, sign of maturity is taking care of your health. 

Valuing your health. Requires a lot of maturity not just valuing it but acting out on that value. Because what does it mean to Value Health that? Well, that means you have to make sacrifices in terms of the junk food that you will no longer eat. You have to make sacrifices going to the gym. You have to make sacrifices going to the doctor when maybe you would prefer not to getting certain procedures done when you would rather put them off. See health is one of those things that you take for granted when you're young, if you're in your teens 20s, 30s. For most people their health is pretty good. They can eat junk food. They cannot exercise. they can engage in drugs in this kind of stuff recreationally and and  it feels like they can get away with it. Well, they're being immature, they're not thinking long-term they're acting impulsively. So the more someone takes care of their health, the more mature they are because that's not easy to do. Especially in our modern culture and Society, where on every street corner you have junk food that it can be difficult sometimes to get, High quality Whole Foods, organic foods, vegetables and fruits. And so forth raw foods. And it's more expensive too you have to work harder, right? Some people say well, Leo, but I can't afford healthy food, right? Because see, it's not, it's not really that you can't afford it. It's that you've got. You don't see any of that, you have to Value it so much that you're going to do, you're going to work harder, to be able to afford it. It's a sacrifice. 

Maybe in order to afford it, yet to start a business which means you have to work a lot harder than you would work otherwise. But then once you get that business going after a few years now, you can afford all the health food you want and not worry about it. Whereas immature person will just say well I can't afford it and I'm not going to take responsibility for starting a business because that's too hard and I'm kind of lazy and I want to avoid work and so therefore I'm just going to keep eating junk food and I'm going to keep complaining and making this excuse that. Well I would eat healthy if I could afford it but I can't. And then for the rest of their life, they're going to live that way. See that's that's very irresponsible, immature behavior, and not taking ownership over the situation. If you can't afford something in life, that means take ownership of it and figure out a way to work harder and make more money by starting a business or getting a promotion learning, some new skills that will make you, you know, allow you to get hired for a higher wage or just work more hours. 

Maturity is also experience and familiarity with all of the common traps so they no longer seduce you. People are easily seduced by traps like Fame, sex cheating, lying scamming exploiting manipulating. These are all traps to the mature person. It's obvious that these kind of things are traps and that therefore you should say no to them. But to the immature person, it's not obvious. That heroin is a trap, believe it or not. I mean, like to a mature person is so obvious that heroin is a trap that there's not even the desire to try heroin but to the immature person they can't see that heroin is a trap. 

Or that  cryptos a trap. 

Full disclosure disclosure, I do own some crypto, but the majority of crypto. Let's just be honest. It's just, it's just it's a scam. It's a trap. And the reason people get trapped by it is because they lack experience. It takes a lot of life experience to be able to see the counterintuitive nature of all these traps go see my episode, The counterintuitive nature of life where we talked about that pattern that dynamic. 

That traps a lot of people. Life is  very counterintuitive you need  a lot of life  experience falling into these traps to know how to avoid them. 

And also, I have another episode called exposing yourself to massive experience. I believe that's what it's called. Something like that, massive experience search for that term. You'll find it. And this actually answers that earlier question we ask, which is what does age have to do with maturity? Well, this is I think the core of the answer is that.when you're born Young, you're born so ignorant. So inexperience that you don't know, you don't know that walking off a cliff is gonna kill you. You don't know that yet. And but for your fear of heights, you would jump off a cliff that's how stupid a child is. Such to a lack of experience, a child doesn't even know that sticking his hand on a stove is going to hurt that takes experience to know that and then just, you know, there's a lot of examples of these are just very obvious examples, but there's a lot of much more subtle examples. You know, a child doesn't know that crypto is a scam or as adult, you should know that, for example. But, you know, there's a lot of adults who are children, who don't know that, or at least what we can say, is that more accurately is that they're  Financially immature. There's a lot of financially immature people. Most are that way. That's why most people are broke. A lot of it is  financial immaturity. 

Capitalism has some issues to do with it as well, but but you know, a lot of people if you gave them if you gave a million dollars, they would lose it within a couple of years because they're so financially immature they would invested in crypto and other stupid shit and lose. So yeah. Generally speaking the more you age the more experienced the more life experience of course you have the more traps you have fallen into the more mistakes you've made and you learn not to make those mistakes again. So that's why the older you get. The more mature you tend to get although it's not it's not guaranteed. 

Maturity is the ability to anticipate problems and address them preemptively before things, get out of hand. Maturity is the ability to make long-term decisions based on solid principles, immature people don't have any principles or even if they do have some principles, it's just purely theoretical, they can't actualize, or embody their principles or act out their principles because that requires consistent action taking, which they cannot do, because they're so emotionally out of control, that they can't even show up to work on time. For a month straight. So what principled life can they live? Even if they wanted to, they couldn't be honest for a month straight because they will tell themselves what they want to be honest. And the next day they would break their own word. It's not just that they betrayed, they betray others, they first and foremost, they betray themselves, they can't control themselves, they're out of control. 

Maturity is long-term thinking versus short-term thinking, 

The reason the immature person engages in short-term thinking this because what's the point of them even doing long-term thinking? Because they do long-term thinking means you have to then act in alignment with long-term thinking. But if you're so emotionally lost and out of control, that you can't even act consistently for one month and do one thing Consistently for one month that you've set your mind to, like, let's say, you set your mind to go to the gym for a month straight and  immature people cannot do that. Therefore for them long-term  thinking doesn't make sense because what's the point of it? They can't act on it. Because they're run by their emotions and their impulses, like an animal. 

Maturity, very importantly, is taking ownership of your mistakes. The ability to apologize to admit mistakes and to take criticism. 

And when somebody else points the truth out to, you see the key difference is that the immature person gets annoyed, upset offended and threatened. 

It takes it out on the messenger shoots the messenger whereas the mature person is thankful that somebody pointed out some sort of difficult truth to them. Even though it's not pleasant to hear somebody criticizing you for example, but there could be truth in that criticism in the mature person understands that it's more important to face that truth. And to incur, the temporary emotional, you know, labor and pain of that suffer a little bit. But in long term, you win out whereas the immature person, can't handle that. Can't handle the truth. That's why they can't handle criticism. Very well, and they will shoot the messenger. That brings truth to them, which means people will stop at some point bringing truth to them. And then that's perfect for these immature people because that just allows them to get lost in their own bubble of Illusion. Because when people bring truth to you, that's them trying to help to bust you out of your egotistical solipsism, we might say. 

We might say that. Everybody is lost in a bubble of ego solipsism. 

And one of the most important functions of other human being serves you is  that they can help you to offer, perspectives and feedback, help you to bust you out of your Ego solipsism.

But if you shoot everybody who tries to come help you at some point, people will know, not to come help you anymore and then that allows you to just get very comfortable in your ego solipsism but... 

There's a cost that comes with that. 

Maturity is to act in alignment with a clear sense of values. Maturity is integrity, being principled. See my episode? What is integrity? 

Maturity is being self-directed, the ability to lead yourself rather than rather than conforming and just following the mob and doing what everybody else is doing as part of some herd. maturity is being non-ideological, not bias non-conformist thinking things through from first principles for yourself, Maturity is having your ducks in a row, taking care of yourself. See fundamentally the immature person is incapable of taking care of himself and then he or she becomes a burden on to others because they need others to take care of them. So the immature person needs the mature person to take care of them. 

Especially when all of their illusions...

Fail to work out. Then the immature person comes crying for help to the mature person. Looking for a bailout 

And then the mature person having compassion and so forth. Often times can fall into the Trap of that sort of idiot compassion and bailing them out. When really a lot of times what needs to happen is that the immature person needs to learn from the suffering of their lies, deceit, manipulations and Truth avoidance. They need to feel the suffering of that and then learn those lessons. But of course they don't want to learn those lessons. So they're always looking for some kind of bail out. And in this way, the immature person could abuse and exploit the mature person. If the mature person isn't careful. Maturity is understanding that your words and actions serve as a role model to others. So how you behave influences How others behave when you behave in an immature way? That leads to  a climate  Of immaturity. And then that drags down the average center of gravity of the organization, the family, the corporation, the country, the whole world, Humanity. 

The mature person takes on the responsibility of being a good role model to others. It's part of what being a parent means. Being a good role model for your children, but being a good model is much more Beyond goes Way Beyond, just being a good parent.

Maturity is the ability to communicate consciously to resolve disputes and disagreements without using Force. Immature people are always in conflict. The more immature someone is the more violent they are. Again, they're out of control and they don't know how to handle or resolve differences in perspective through conscious communication. 

 

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[Buck Edwards]

Next 

I'm going to have an episode on that in the future called conscious communication. So search for that if you're watching this Sometimes after I release. 

And of course, An important corollary to this point is the ability to listen maturity is the ability to really listen. Most people don't know how to really listen. Therefore, you know, they don't know how to communicate consciously either. 

To be able to really listen to someone. You have to step outside of yourself,your agenda, your perspective. 

It can't be as selfish and egotistical as you are and be a good listener. 

And this is a very deep point. Maturity is the ability to let go and to surrender. The ability to accept things as they are. 

See my episode called The Power of letting go. 

The immature person is unable to surrender. Let go of things. 

To the point of being driven OCD. 

Driving themselves crazy in their mind, they're not even able to let go of a certain thought certain destructive thought immature person can't do that. 

And lastly maturity is wisdom, of course, go see my episode. What is wisdom where we discuss that in great detail maturity is at the highest level Consciousness and intelligence of course? And of course ultimately maturity just boils down to being selfless. Of course, there's nothing more to maturity but ever higher levels of selflessness, that's all it is. Of course. Why would it be Anything else? 

And now let's cover a maturity. Now, I've already been covering, you know, because they maturities just the inverse of maturity, so we've already covered many of these points, but, you know, just a little bit of a different angle here. What is immaturity? Its first and foremost shirking responsibility, avoiding responsibility, through evasion, manipulation and trickery. 

Immaturity is in a nutshell, all the ways that Donald Trump Acts. 

What does Donald Trump's Chief problem? He's just, he's immature. He's a child. He's a man-child. And what makes Trump so immature, he does things for such vain reasons. 

Just look at the reasons and the motivations behind his actions. I mean it's Preposterous how child how childish he is. And the fact that this is not clearly spelled out in obvious In the media and to half the American population is just it's Preposterous, it's absurd. It's a, it's a fucking farce is what it is. One of the things that annoys me the most about commentary about Trump is that especially like people in mainstream media like on CNN MSNBC they will they will speak about Trump and his actions as though he's a mature person and then you know they will treat them him as though he's mature and they will just kind of like have a try to have a conversation with him or just trying to treat him like every other adult politician which is which to me is is a completely preposterous. 

Because you're ignoring the elephant in the room, right? Like, like, for example, if Trump says something they will, they will  give him the benefit of the doubt that what he's saying is true, but that this is not how you deal with a character like Trump. A character like Trump, the way you deal with him is you completely call out on his immature childish horseshit. You don't allow any leeway in terms of.. he is a child. This is how you speak up. You speak to him like a child. You treat him like a child, that's what he is. And anybody who supports him seriously is a child, you called him out for being a fucking immature. Child. That's what they are. That's what every Trump supporter is.. They are children. Trump is completely out of control. You see? That's his whole problem. He doesn't know how to control himself. He cannot even. Control himself to not eat a cheeseburger, that's his situation. That's how big of a child he is. This is not partisan. This is not political. It has nothing to do with politics. His, his policies and his politics are irrelevant. It's all about the fact that he's a child, he laughs, total self-restraint. He's completely spoiled and entitled. This man is not equipped to lead anybody. He cannot even lead himself. 

He's a utter narcissist, an egotist. And this is the only conversation that mainstream media should be having about Trump. The only one not about his policy about the wall or about this thing that he did, or that thing he wants to do or his political Ambitions is like, no, let's talk about the fact that you're fucking child and that's where it ends until you stop being a child. We're not going to move on and talk about anything else. 

You might say Leo  you're so biased. No, it's not biased, it's that, I mean yes I'm biased. But my whole bias is that, my job is to teach people how to become mature and selfless, that's my job. So of course, I'm biased in this regard. 

Compare Trump's level of maturity to Obama's level of maturity. Obama was a good example of mature. He was careful. He was deliberate. He was in control of himself. 

That's the difference. He wasn't spoiled. He wasn't entitled. 

All it is is a difference in selfishness and selflessness, that's fundamentally what it is. See what is Trump's number one quality, is that? Well first of all he has no respect for the truth whatsoever. 

And he takes responsibility for absolutely nothing. 

There you go. That's the Hallmark of a child. He throws tantrums. 

He's unable to say no to himself. 

You can't have someone like that leading the country. 

If That's not obvious to you. 

There's nothing more to be said. 

Maturity is self-restraint. 

Which is the one thing that Trump completely lacks. He has no sense of self restraint. 

He wouldn't even appreciate why self-restraint would be something one would want to cultivate. 

Immaturity is impulsiveness  impatience emotional outbursts. Throwing Tantrums having an inconsistent chaotic mind and behavior. That, of course comes from that mind because chaotic Behavior comes from chaotic mind, obviously immaturity is being needy. Desperately clinging for approval, validation attention, Fame Glory power, love money or sex and immature ego chases after these things. Because it is deficient in them and doesn't yet see them as traps and doesn't know how to fulfill these needs of of its some of these are legitimate. I'm not saying sex is wrong or anything money is not bad or anything but like it's how you go about it, how you relate to it, that matters. 

And you can pursue these way these things in a way where it becomes a trap and in ways which are healthy. So the ego doesn't distinguish these things and Falls into all these straps.

immaturity is running around seeking pleasure and fun to be driven by sex and other kind of Cravings to make your life about that immaturity is to fight to argue to blame to name-call. Rather than doing these things, the mature thing to do is to reflect on your own behaviors. Immaturity is getting stuck in Conflict, the inability to avoid argument and conflict. An immature person simply doesn't know how to avoid argument and conflict. 

Because they're so stuck in their own illusions. They can't step outside themselves and their agenda. Immature people resolves things through brute force and domination through authoritarianism, which of course, has another feature of trumpism 

Authoritarianism. Why does Trump like authoritarian leaders around the world like Putin Kim Jong? Because an extremely selfish person doesn't know how to resolve conflict in any other way, but through domination, so, 

They see domination as the prime strategy. What I got to do is I just got an out dominate others. I don't need to learn to listen to them. I don't need to learn to communicate. I don't need to learn how to restrain myself. I don't need no need to learn how to control my emotions or any of that. I just need to know how to dominate others more that will solve my problem. Have you noticed that the less developed a country is the less mature it is and the more of an authoritarian government, it has And then these governments had to be very cruel and violent. 

And they tend to have not to have free speech, they don't have a good dialogue. There's not a lot of dialogue and going on in these kind of countries but that what happens is that as the society evolves, eventually the size Society, we should certain level where authoritarianism becomes impossible. Whereas, before it was the only means after some point it becomes impossible. 

Why is that? Because the center of, gravity of that culture and Society has shifted and developed to a more mature point where people are not going to tolerate you. No other mature. People are not going to tolerate that kind of immature Behavior, which is what Donald Trump is finding out. The center of gravity of American culture is actually above where Donald Trump is. Which is why a lot of his Antics and so forth. Don't work very well anymore. They worked in a short term before people really caught on to his level of immaturity. See, a lot of people were caught by surprise in 2016. They didn't really know Donald Trump very well or they kind of assume that I would, he's just kind of a normal guy. And it wouldn't be that big of a deal. I mean, it was obvious, it was going to be a big problem and that it was obvious. He was a child from very beginning. If you have any sense of what maturity and immaturity are but 

We do a lot of people are not very psychologically adapt and aware. So they didn't know the stuff that I'm talking about here, but so Trump was able to kind of like sneak his way in the door as it was closing. But now people are caught on to his tricks. Now, it's very obvious, how immature he is to most people.  not to everybody, not to as many people as it should be obvious to you know, maybe thirty percent of the population in America Still doesn't Understand because they themselves are immature but you know, to appreciate maturity you have to be mature. 

Look at the founding fathers of America. Why is America a great country? Look at the founding fathers, they were very mature politicians. They weren't your typical politicians. Very mature, Thomas Jefferson, Ben Franklin, George Washington. Who am I forgetting? There were a few others in... Madison. So forth. John Adams is such like Very, very wise, very, very mature, politicians that thought. Deeply long-term were not impulsive or not, power-hungry were not tyrannical, we're not authoritarian. Basically, the exact opposite of trump. 

If the founding fathers of America, Had the maturity of Donald Trump. Today, we would be living in a dictatorship. 

This is not obvious to you, I don't know what else I can say, your politics are shit. 

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[Buck Edwards]

Immaturity is pretentious and posturing bragging needing to take credit acting entitled and spoiled arrogance. Fraud criminality exploitation theft and cheating. 

Consider the difference between mature. Masculinity versus immature Masculinity. We have a bit of a masculine crisis. I would say right now, in our online culture, a lot of young men are growing up and they don't know how to be masculine. They look for role models and what they find online, is a lot of very immature men teaching men how to become men and it's this Tate shit. It's this pickup artist shit. Extremely immature. 

Comically immature. 

There's a lack of good Role models of mature masculinity. 

I tried to address that point in my series how to get laid part 1 part 2, part 3 where I try to teach pick up in a more mature way. So compare that to some of the less mature ways in which pickup is taught most of the time by pickup coaches and judge for yourself, The difference 

Immaturity is not considering the impact of your actions on others in the world. Willful ignorance of externalities. A lot of corporations are very immature. See this doesn't just apply to people. It applies to organizations collectives Nations and of course, Corporation. Business can be done in a mature way or immature way. Most business these days is immature business. In a hundred years from now. The way business is done, it's going to be so much more mature. These kind of gross externalities that are standard business practice on Wall Street These days is not going to persist a hundred years from now. We're going to mature and grow out of it. But for now, a lot of companies, what they do is they just push the externalities of their business onto onto the public sector or I mean on to Society at large, on to the commons tragedy of the commons sort of situation. You know, some of these well companies gas companies Pollution companies and big Pharma companies is so so forth with the externality and I want to underscore this this, this key term, willful ignorance. This is very good term. We were discussing immaturity immaturity, you could say in a nutshell is willful ignorance. Its aggressive ignorance. And a lot of these, Trump supporters are aggressively ignorant than are just ignorant. They're aggressively ignorant, their willfully ignorant. They're proud of their ignorance. 

Immaturity is a lack of understanding of situations because you are too. Self-absorbed bias on truthful, avoidant and reactive. To understand the properly to understand a situation accurately. Requires truthfulness honesty, lack of bias, ability to see multiple perspectives and to deal with difficult truths and to be control in control of your emotions. If you're lost in a haze of chaotic emotions, you can't understand anything. 

And then you pay for that. And then your lack of understanding doubles down on itself. The errors, keep increasing. 

The reason you're in conflict with other people all the time, because you can't understand them. Because you're too self-absorbed, to understand. 

Immaturity is an inability to execute long-term plans, of course, because you're out of control and a control person Cannot go to the gym consistently per month. Impossible cannot do his homework consistently for a month impossible cannot show up to work on time for a month impossible.

Which, of course, interferes with your success. One of the most important qualities you need to be successful, is to be able to execute consistently on long-term plans. So immature people tend to have a lot of money problems, a lot of relationship problems. And so on problems at school problems with their boss problems with their family. 

Especially financial problem. 

Immaturity is a lack of understanding of what will lead to your own well-being. 

The immature person is fooling himself about what will actually serve him best. 

Which is why immature people tend to destroy their own health. 

The immature person is at war with himself. In contradiction full of contradiction, the mind has more contradictions in it. The mature mind understands that eliminating contradictions from itself is an important aspect of the health of the Mind. Whereas, the immature mind is so full of Illusions and bullshit and contradictions, and it's at conflict with itself at odds with itself and ultimately, at war with itself, 

And destroys itself in the end. Which is of course, What Trump has done to himself... all of Trump's Antics will lead to his ultimate self destruction as of course, they should. And it's completely obvious to a mature person that it would work this way. Only to someone who is foolish and stupid As Trump or a trump supporter. Can they think that that that you can just get away with this? But the universe will allow you to just get away with this kind of behavior. Over and over and over again without any consequence. This is preposterous absolutely laughable. The only way you can get away with this kind of behavior is just through luck, it's a matter of time and, you know, Trump had a lot of luck. He's already very old and he's got away with a lot of stuff. So he's had a lot of luck. I would say. He's been more lucky than than you will be if you act as foolishly as he has in his life. So he's a very lucky guy but I think his run his, his luck is running short. As we're seeing. I would not want to be him right now. 

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[Buck Edwards]

Of course, as I said already, immaturity is the inability to let go to let go of what thoughts people arguments ideology perspective, agenda, you're just so attached to it. It's a clinging kind of energy. You can't let it go. There's a thought that just keeps going through your head and you just can't let that thought go. That's what that's what emotional immaturity looks like. And it's an inability to be at peace to be calm to be gentle. Peace is the fruit of a mature life. A life devoted to cultivating maturity. Immaturity self-deception fantasy illusion falsehood. Immaturity is materialistic living maturity is Spiritual Living. Of course, immaturity is synonymous with foolishness unconsciousness, a lack of intelligence. 

And ultimately, immaturity is just selfishness. Of course, what else would it be? 

So in the end, when we boil it all down and it gets very simple You're either devoted to a life of selfishness and immaturity or a life of selflessness and maturity. Here's a list of examples of immature Behavior. Get your mind jogging. Abandoning your child. 

Lying, cheating, scamming and defrauding theft in all of its forms. Why do immature people gravitate towards theft at all? That's why there's that. There are a lot of very subtle forms of theft, which I will talk about in my episode called future one called the avoidance of hard work. That's coming soon I'm going to talk about theft, their theft is so much bigger topic Than People realize. There's so many different forms of theft and all of them are perpetrated by Immature people. Why is that? That because like I said earlier the immature people don't want to work hard therefore you know if you're not going to work hard in life but you still want all the goodies which of course immature people all do, the only way you can get that is through some form of theft. A lot of these forms of theft are not called theft and immature people actually think that know that they're not thieves just because it's not called theft, there's a lot of stuff That's not called theft that should be called theft. We'll get into that in that, in that other episode.

 

Another  example of immaturity, is losing your temper. Getting offended upset. Easily, getting triggered in a debate or a flame War. Trolling, other people taking Glee in  someone else's defeat, or suffering, getting morally, outraged bragging. What color is your Bugatti? Counting. How many girls you've had sex with and bragging about it, calling women, sluts and Whores manipulating someone into giving you Sex and Money calling people pedophiles. All this is a, this is a doozy, this is a favorite one today. This is so popular, accusing people of being pedophiles is like the most immature thing. You know, it's just the Hallmark of an immature mind defaming and smearing people's reputations. Seeking validation for your success, seeking social media attention. Avoiding emotional labor leeching off of your friends and family. Wanting to take all the credit for yourself manipulating friends and spouses exaggerating, not being truthful or accurate. Bad faith, lack of intellectual honesty. Taking Joy from inflicting suffering on others, only behaving well when others are watching, taking advantage of naive people throwing objects and slamming doors, whining, and complaining without taking action. Watch out for this one. 

Especially in the political realm. A lot of people do whining and complaining in the political realm but  they take no action. 

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[Buck Edwards]

Being involved in dirty political campaigns. Breaking just laws expecting people to buy you things or to do work for you because you don't want to do it yourself and you're just looking for somebody else to do it for you. 

That's the list. 

Let me make a few points here about Society at large. If you're spending a lot of time online on YouTube on social media, on forums, observing politics and so forth. And even entertainment this whole online, sort of YouTube, Facebook Tick-Tock Twitter, ecosystem, Reddit ecosystem, if you're anywhere near this, Which you probably are, If you watch me, then you have a lot of examples of immaturity going around today, social media, influencers, celebrities and so forth. These people are demonstrating some of the most immature ways of behaving. Which is very unfortunate and if you're a youngster growing up, this can really twist you up. There are a few mature Role Models out there for you. Our culture right now, celebrates stupidity and immaturity? Look at the rise of Donald Trump and Tate, the stuff that's going on with Elon Musk. This is the celebration of immaturity. And online platforms, tend to reward this kind of immature Behavior. Drama arguing, fighting name-calling, bullshitting,gossiping, ego, narcissism, fraud, these crypto scams, all this is rewarded by these online platforms and in our politics 

So some of the most successful people are the people who are the most immature which is rather perverse and twisted. Don't you think? 

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[Buck Edwards]

Well what I say is that shame on all these people, I'm holding you to a higher standard, I hold myself to a higher standard, you're better than this and I don't want you to get the some low standard of what you're going to be as a human being from consuming all this online Horseshit content. That's just immature nonsense. You Are after maturity here, that's what we're about. That's self-actualization is about that's what spirituality is about. 

Consider as an example how this issue of maturity applies, even just outside of Your personal life. Consider the difference between, for example, a mature industry, versus an immature industry. 

An immature industry might be something like social media or the internet companies in Silicon Valley, you know, their motto has been move fast break things. This is the definition of immature Behavior. This crypto fraud stuff, we're seeing the sort of the Wild West. It's chaotic, there's a lack of self-restraint. Interesting. 

Here are some areas where you might  want to take a specific look  for  maturity versus immaturity. Politics. What does immature politics look like and what does mature politics look like? Well, if you want more on that I have a lot of material. I think some top-notch material, go check out my series 4 part series called conscious politics where I explain to you what  I think, mature politics look like and how different it is from what we're currently seeing online. The next area is relationships dating and sex, what is a immature attitude towards relationships, dating and sex. And what is a mature attitude. That's night and day right there. Family relations. 

What do immature versus mature family relations look like, Then in the area of business, finances, money and investing what's immature what's mature? Really think about what are some examples of mature ways of doing business. That's still something that mankind really struggles with collectively because the influence of Wall Street, and all this sort of spiral dynamics stage orange stuff, quite toxic immature then spirituality and religion in the area of spirituality and religion. What is a immature spirituality? What is mature spirituality? That's night and day night and day. And then in the domain of morality. What is immature morality? What is mature morality.

 

Now Understand that Immature people are mostly immature because they were raised by other immature people. 

And one of the Hallmarks of maturity is to be able to deal with immature people in a graceful and skilful manner and this is a little difficult. You know, there's levels of maturity and what's going to happen is that first, you're very immature, then you become a little bit more mature and you look down, you can click. Now, you can recognize people like Trump is being very immature but you're still not that mature because you, you're at a level where you're like in the Middle where you don't know how to deal with immature people. So, what you do is you just kind of vent and fuming And yell at them and stuff like that. Call them names but you don't have That sort of tier two  level of maturity and wisdom and Consciousness where you're able to even sort of integrate immature people into Your acceptance and embrace of all of reality. Because, you know, immature people are a giant chunk of reality that you have to, you can't just demonize, that would be immature to demonize immature people. That would itself be an immature approach to dealing with immature people. So what's the mature way of dealing with immature people? Well, that's something that's like requires a double dose of maturity, like, maturity squared, to be able to deal with immature people maturely and gracefully and skillfully. That's that's like some spiral Wizardry stuff right there. That's tier 2. To personally I struggle with that, you know, you might say, well, Leo but aren't you like venting and fuming at Trump and all this? Shouldn't you have a more mature way of talking about Trump? And look, it's not like I'm offended by Trump or anything. It's just that like to me it's just so Preposterous that this whole situation just so Preposterous and I don't see anybody just, like nailing Trump on what he needs to be Nailed on. I watch the news all the time, people criticizing Trump, but they never criticize him properly, they criticize him on  all sorts of stupid, shit. 

They  don't nail him on the core thing. So that's my pet peeve there but definitely I have more work to do on more maturely dealing with immature people. That that's I mean that's really difficult. I'll tell you. I mean I deal with some immature people on the forum, in the comment sections. You know, I've dealt with them for fucking years. Frankly, it like it does trigger me. For me, it's difficult, sometimes it like, it gets to you and in the future I anticipate maturing more and dealing with them in a more graceful manner than I have in the past. But that's like that's a real test. That's a real test of your maturity right there. You know, some some spiritual gurus say that, you know, the real test of your Enlightenment is go spend a week with your family living with your family after enlightenment well that's the real test right? Well the real test of your maturity is you know go deal with some completely immature jackass who's trolling you online or something and deal with that. Well that's pretty tricky. 

 If you can handle that then maybe you're more mature than I am. Here some things to consider. Consider a mature conversation and a mature communication versus an immature one. What does that look like? Consider a mature relationship. What does that look like? Consider a mature attitude towards work? A mature way of doing business. Consider mature spirituality. Consider mature society. What does that look like? Consider a mature culture. Consider a mature set of life goals and directions, versus it's  opposite. All things for you to consider on your own.

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[Buck Edwards]

How do I become more mature if I actually want to. 

1. Take ownership of things. Ask yourself this key question - where am I not taking responsibility? Or this one - who do I blame? In what ways do I act like a child? Powerful and scary questions to ask yourself but If you wanna be mature, take on that challenge of asking that question. Immature persons won't incur the emotional labor of asking such questions because the answers would probably be too painful and require you to make some changes. 

2.stop blaming, arguing, judging,fighting, and name calling. Cut this out. Stop it. Also stop creating drama. You're creating a lot of drama. Stop it. Stop whining and complaining. 

3. Stop pursuing raw pleasure as your modus operandi in life. If that's something you do. 

4. Lead. Lead yourself. Lead others. Leadership roles will force you to become a lot more responsible. Head of a household or some department in your corporation. Taking on that leadership role when that opportunity arises, This will force you out of your self out of  your egotism because other people will be dependent on you. You'll feel the weight of that dependence and you wouldn't want to let them down. And that way you'll have less leeway to screw around and to be immature. 

If you're in a leadership position and act very immaturely, then other people will very quickly put you in your place and point that out to you, you'll get kicked out you'll get fired and so forth and it'll just not be a fun experience. So you quickly learn to be mature in those positions or you will lose those positions very quickly. As trump did. Haha. Rightly so. 

5. Learn to manage your emotions. Emotional mastery, emotional intelligence,EQ it's called. (video ref - how to master your emotions) 

6. Have an eye towards something higher and larger in life. A life purpose.(ref  Life purpose course.) 

7. Do philosophy and contemplation. A lot of contemplation and self reflection and introspection is necessary (ref episode called developing introspection, how to contemplate, how to ask powerful questions, how to contemplate using a journal, intro into serious philosophy. 

8. Burning through your karma. (ref episode called burning through karma ). Exhaust your egoic pettiness and observe how ugly it is. Observe the ugliness of your own selfishness. Basically that's the formula right there. 

9. Next is meet your basic survival needs. Learn to take care of yourself. Become self reliant and independent. Stop relying on others to take care of you. Isn't taking care of my survival needs selfish? Shouldn't I be helping others? But see This is foolish. A mature way to help others is to first help yourself. Ground yourself. Solidify yourself so that you are in control of your emotions. You're in control of your finances. You're not desperate. You're not clinging. You've got your basic sex needs taken care of. Now with the foundation built you have the capacity to help others, to raise a family and be a leader and to maybe go into governance and so forth but if you can't take care of your basic survival needs, you're not gonna be able to really help others effectively. 

And then to compensate for that inability, you're going to come up with all sorts of fantasies and delusions, and manipulation techniques to try to hold together this house of cards, build your life on a solid foundation is what I'm telling you. That's the mature way to go about it. Immature people are always building houses of cards. 

And they're always falling apart. And they glue it back together with bullshit. That's basically how that works. 

10. Next way to act mature is to follow the principle of right action as it is called. Generally speaking you know the right thing that needs to be done at the right time, you just don't do it because you are too irresponsible. Start doing it. 

11. Next way to become more mature is to pursue the good life as I call it. In general, strive to be good. The notion of being good is under utilized these days. People aren't talking about it. You want a good life. Strive to be good. (ref episode called "what is goodness") 

12. Another way is to be honest even when it's painful and difficult. Cultivate that honesty habit. 

13. Also discipline yourself, work hard, stop avoiding hard work. That's half your problem right there in life. It doesn't mean be dumb about how you work. It's not just the raw quantity of hours, hard work also means working smart too. I'm not saying be a workaholic. You put in a lot of hours. You don't need more than 40 hours a week. 

But during those 40 hours really work, and make sure that those 40 hours are going towards something, it's going towards something important and valuable, that's generating value to the world. That's serious work.

14. Expose yourself to massive life experience. 

Take on ever larger challenges and challenge yourself in life, rather than waiting for life to challenge you.

15. Be self directed.

16. Confront harsh truths in general and undertake the journey to pursue the truth with the capital T. (ref episode what is truth, how to discover what's true) 

17. Do serious spirituality. That's part of this process of pursuing truth. 

18. Practice conscious relationships. 

19. Have children. Have kids consciously. Deliberately. That's different than just having an accidental child. I mean deliberately have children. Then work towards becoming the best parent I think. That's very practical. That's most people's avenue to maturation in life. If you're not gonna do the spiritual path, then do the family path but do it consciously. You could turn making a family into a whole developmental path for yourself. If that's something you're interested in. Of course don't have children just for the sake of developing yourself. This is assuming that you want them. 

20. Learn to communicate clearly and to articulate your thoughts and emotions. (ref episode on clarity coming soon, conscious communication).

20. Study developmental psychology models. Spiral dynamics. Nine stages of ego development. Huge leg up on maturing yourself. They show you a road map of human maturity. This maturity generally takes place in stages. 

21. Practice not knowing from that episode. (ref episode the power of not knowing). It leads you to pure maturity. 

22. Stop tolerating immature people. Call them out on their bullshit. Also if you got immature friends and family, you gotta drop them. If they're not willing to mature, drop them. 

23. Stop making promises you can't keep. 

24. Think before you speak. Especially in this online culture where people are paid to blabber on and on.   A matured person would think for hours and hours before they speak because it's important, because that's what a matured person would do. Because that's the only responsible way to speak, when you have a big platform or influence. 

25. Stop defending and justifying yourself. 

26. Reflect on all the ways you have been immature in the past. What are all the ways I've been immature in the past. You should be able to come up with a very long list. Just think about those. Here's a few other questions to contemplate. Which parts of me are mature and which parts of me are immature. Even if you are a very immature person, you've got some mature aspects to you. And even if you are a very mature person, you've got some immature aspects to you. To be perfectly matured is a hard thing to do. It needs a lot of sacrifice and surrendering. Isn't maturity just wisdom. Isn't there a lot of overlap? 

We began this episode not knowing what maturity was. It wasn't clear, it wasn't defined and we didn't know where it would lead exactly. When you are doing one of these philosophical enquiries you don't know where it's gonna lead you sit there for hours doing this inquiry on maturity and at some point after 5 hours you realize oh well maturity is just the same thing as wisdom of course. I already knew what wisdom was. But you didn't know that maturity was equivalent to wisdom, it took you many hours of contemplation to get there. There are nuances between maturity, consciousness, selflessness, wisdom. To be able to recognize the same thing from multiple angles this thing, this is not common at all. This feels like a chore or obligation you have to do. Isn't maturity only for certain kinds of people? Maturity is for everyone regardless of anything. Maturity will help you substantially with your relationships. It will give more stability and peace of mind. It's going to reduce suffering. It will lessen conflict and you'll have less instances of getting into trouble. Immature people get themselves into a lot of trouble. Also more success. Being immature is not a very good recipe for being successful.

Immature people don't have the consistency that's required to achieve solid success. Or it's very rocky. They get it and they lose it. Why would you want that kind of success? You want solid success especially if you have been struggling, maybe you've tried to be successful maybe you tried launch a business or you try to make some money right. You tried to become successful and it's failing and failing and failing. And maybe now you're getting sick of the fact that you are too immature to do that and what's necessary is not some sort of business in a box, get rich quick scheme, no you need some.. 

You need to go deeper into the foundation of your psyche and personality and look at how you can fix your immaturity so you can run stable successful businesses. That's probably be the kind of solution you're gonna need. More satisfaction. There's a kind of deep higher quality satisfaction that comes with living in maturity that the immature person cannot even fathom or appreciate. And to live a more profound life. If you want a more profound life,which is what I teach then you can't get that through immaturity.  The path is the path of maturity, the path of consciousness, the path of wisdom, the path of goodness, the path of introspection, the path of contemplation, the path of selflessness. And ultimately the reason you wanna pursue maturity is to find mature love. Consider that there's such a thing as immature love and there's mature love. That this is the biggest thing that you're missing. And that this is ultimately the whole point of life and human development is to go from immature love to mature love. And then the deepest satisfaction you get is mature love. 

 

 

 

 

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[Buck Edwards]

 But the question is, what is mature love? 

And that's something that is so profound that it goes beyond the scope of this episode and I'm not going to elaborate upon it here. If you want you can find other episodes. What is Love part 1. What is Love Part 2 and plenty of others? There's other one, I have called how to practice love those will get you started towards understanding of mature love but that's That's really the prize. That's why you're doing all this sacrificing, that's why you're putting in the work. 

That's why you become an adult is to experience mature love. 

The desire to develop yourself and an interest in self-help. I would suggest as a Hallmark of maturity. Most people are not that interested in self-help. In fact, a lot of people like to shit on self-help to be cynical about self-help. 

To dissuade you from doing self-help. Talking about as some kind of a scam or something. These are people who are not interested in developing themselves. This is This is not the kind of people you want to surround yourself with. So if you are the kind of person who's interested in self-help, that alone is enough. 

I can work with that. I can work on you. I can help you if you're that kind of person, right? Because that's the little that's the diamond in the rough sea. We can we can take that dive That we can polish it up. That's what I teach, self-help. So, recognize that diamond in the rough within you. And now just spend the next decade and or to polishing It Up by pursuing your passion, following up on your passion. Of self-help, reading the books, watching the content going to Workshop, so forth, do that, if you've got that inch that passion for self-help, the way that I did. When I first discovered it, maybe fifteen years ago or so do that. That's crucial. And also an interest in spirituality serious spiritual.

That's also a Hallmark of maturity. That's also the little seed, little kernel, a little diamond in the rough that needs to be polished up over decades. That's key. Don't overlook that prize. That in yourself. You have something in. You have that diamond in the rough within you, you are a diamond in the rough and I'm gonna polish you up through this work. 

 

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[Buck Edwards]

In conclusion. Immature people are devils and mature people are gods. 

And, Of course, as God you gain access to infinite love and of course, that's all there is and that's all that life is about. 

 

 

 

Done. 

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