How to get sexual and emotional needs met while single

[Princess Arabia]

36 minutes ago, cjoseph90 said:

@Princess ArabiaI love this answer. I couldnt have said it better myself . Thank u for your input

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[StarStruck]

3 hours ago, Princess Arabia said:

You are probably right by saying some of his followers doesn't understand his teachings in respect to how it can work for him by successfully manipulating his way through society to gain financial success. Through direct experience, I have witnessed some guys going down hill by listening to him and trying to mimic his behavioral patterns not recognizing you can only get away with certain behavior after you've established a certain way of life. E.g guys with $$ can get away with certain behavior a broke ass man wouldn't be able to pull off. 

There are people who followed Leo Gura and jumped off the bridge. No joke. Of course interpretation huge part of this discussion. Personally I think Andrew Tate never killed anybody but he did some bad stuff. That doesn’t mean one can’t mirror himself after him in his positives. Most girls cringe at nice guys but they bend over backward to guys like Andrew Tate. The problem isn’t the guys. The OP would never give a nice guy a chance. He has to be “adventurous” aka Andrew Tate type of guy.  

Edited June 12, 2023 by StarStruck

[BlessedLion]

12 minutes ago, StarStruck said:

The problem isn’t the guys. The OP would never give a nice guy a chance. He has to be “adventurous” aka Andrew Tate type of guy.  

the problem is 100% the guys, they don't know how to be masculine or attractive. I think OP is smarter than going for Andrew Tate but that doesn't mean she has to stoop down to beta incels who are awkward and angry at women for not liking that. Is she supposed to like the ugly weird guy who is boring and plays video games because that's nicer? What a victim mindset. 

[somegirl]

58 minutes ago, StarStruck said:

The OP would never give a nice guy a chance. He has to be “adventurous” aka Andrew Tate type of guy.  

So there are "nice" guys and Andrew Tate type of guys, nothing in between? ?

Andrew Tate's "I am macho guy" energy just makes me cringe so badly. 

I won't be with someone just because he is nice, that's the bare minimum and not enough to form attraction. You wouldn't either. 

[Princess Arabia]

1 hour ago, StarStruck said:

There are people who followed Leo Gura and jumped off the bridge. No joke. Of course interpretation huge part of this discussion. Personally I think Andrew Tate never killed anybody but he did some bad stuff. That doesn’t mean one can’t mirror himself after him in his positives. Most girls cringe at nice guys but they bend over backward to guys like Andrew Tate. The problem isn’t the guys. The OP would never give a nice guy a chance. He has to be “adventurous” aka Andrew Tate type of guy.  

Are you suggesting that Leo killed the guy from the forum that committed suicide. Not saying you are, I'm not sure, that's why I'm asking; or at least was the cause of his death. BTW, I am familiar with that incident. 

[StarStruck]

1 hour ago, BlessedLion said:

the problem is 100% the guys, they don't know how to be masculine or attractive. I think OP is smarter than going for Andrew Tate but that doesn't mean she has to stoop down to beta incels who are awkward and angry at women for not liking that. Is she supposed to like the ugly weird guy who is boring and plays video games because that's nicer? What a victim mindset. 

Hahah. A guy with an abundance has it for the choosing. It is not OP who will be deciding. 
 

 

34 minutes ago, somegirl said:

So there are "nice" guys and Andrew Tate type of guys, nothing in between? ?

Andrew Tate's "I am macho guy" energy just makes me cringe so badly. 

I won't be with someone just because he is nice, that's the bare minimum and not enough to form attraction. You wouldn't either. 

I don’t know you but statistics don’t lie. Andrew type of guys get rewarded by females through sex all the time while nice guys don’t. If I have to choose between these two extremes I’m Andrew Tate all the way without any shame. You never gave a nice guy a chance so don’t try to take the higher ground here. ? I rather be a somebody who can fuck a brother up, makes money, self confidence and competence. You don’t want a guy who plays an instrument lmao, you just want a competent guy who knows what he is doing within and outside of the sheets. Obviously there are not two extremes but you are not getting my point. If a guy like Andrew Tate showed up without his bad reputation you would be all over him. Especially girls like you. ?

29 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

Are you suggesting that Leo killed the guy from the forum that committed suicide. Not saying you are, I'm not sure, that's why I'm asking; or at least was the cause of his death. BTW, I am familiar with that incident. 

there have been multiple incidents like that. 

Edited June 12, 2023 by StarStruck

[Princess Arabia]

5 minutes ago, somegirl said:

I have friends who are bitter about men because they are unable to form a simple romantic relationship with them (planning on having a conversation with them about this). But where does that take you? You will just be bitter, angry individual and will push away the other gender even more. Take things in your own hands. Ask yourself what you can do to raise your chances to be with someone you want to be with. Don't blame others, noone is to blame. 

This is why "gold diggers" exists. No bitterness involved if their time spent was worth the aggravation. Only women who give their love and time freely and easily have room for bitterness. Not saying anyone should go gold digging, but at least let the guy invest a bit and earn the prize he's chasing. There's a reason why men chase women. There's a reason why they compete for women. What do you people usually compete for a PRIZE. Most low standard guys will disagree with this but it's because they refuse to up their game to get the prize they want so they settle for the runner up and tell you to lower your standards to match theirs. You don't see much successful men involved in Involuntary Celibacy because most understand what it takes to attract a woman worth investing in, protect and provide for. Its not about the sex/financial dynamic but more about the attractor factor. They understand women value security in a relationship and that entails being able to trust his provision for her and a family if they were to get married and have kids. It's just innate whether they marry or have kids, doesn't matter. Its instinctual. This only refers to women /men looking for long-term lasting relationships. By all means have sexual relationships just for its own sake without attachments, that's fine too, but the guys who want a woman to lower her standards just to get laid, isn't doing either any good because he will only resent her in the end and start to feel inadequate,  because instinctively he knows she deserves better. Both of them do. 

[Sugarcoat]

10 hours ago, Javfly33 said:

lmao Maybe think about the scorts (male and female) that make in a month what I make in 6 months, just having sex, and choosing with who doing it. Yeah, seems like an 'horrible' job ?

You are actually insulting women that are actually exploited in third world countries by mafias. Those things are fucked up. Being an scort IS NOT.

Well if it’s not fucked up and makes you the money you so want then why don’t you yourself go sell sex to a bunch of men and we’ll see what you think about it ??

[somegirl]

17 minutes ago, StarStruck said:

If a guy like Andrew Tate showed up without his bad reputation you would be all over him. Especially girls like you. ?

Ahahahahahaha. 

Okay. ?

20 minutes ago, StarStruck said:

You never gave a nice guy a chance so don’t try to take the higher ground here. ?

How do you know, huh? ? I actually did. And obviously regretted it.  

[somegirl]

@Princess Arabia damn... I deleted that comment cause I figured it was unnecessary information,and someone still managed to see ?

[Princess Arabia]

27 minutes ago, StarStruck said:

Hahah. A guy with an abundance has it for the choosing. It is not OP who will be deciding. 
 

 

I don’t know you but statistics don’t lie. Andrew type of guys get rewarded by females through sex all the time while nice guys don’t. If I have to choose between these two extremes I’m Andrew Tate all the way without any shame. You never gave a nice guy a chance so don’t try to take the higher ground here. ? I rather be a somebody who can fuck a brother up, makes money, self confidence and competence. You don’t want a guy who plays an instrument lmao, you just want a competent guy who knows what he is doing within and outside of the sheets. Obviously there are not two extremes but you are not getting my point. If a guy like Andrew Tate showed up without his bad reputation you would be all over him. Especially girls like you. ?

there have been multiple incidents like that. 

I'm aware of that but you didn't answer the question. If that's what you are suggesting, are you aware over 700,000 people worldwide commit suicide each year. I wonder what the causes were.  Probably not from being on a forum. Other factors are involved. Do you blame gun manufactures for every person that gets shot. I bet you don't blame the Supermarkets for hosting poisons on their shelves that's slowly causing millions of deaths each year. The blame game never gets to the root cause.

Edited June 12, 2023 by Princess Arabia

[Princess Arabia]

10 minutes ago, somegirl said:

Ahahahahahaha. 

Okay. ?

How do you know, huh? ? I actually did. And obviously regretted it.  

You see the "nice guy syndrome". It's a manipulative tactic some guys use to try to make you feel guilty for not making that a priority on your "guys I would date list". They know exactly what they're doing because they are experts at this and then they get upset when you don't fall for it, then start telling you about the ground you're walking on like what @StarStruckIs doing. He was flirting with you yesterday, now he's saying all this stuff he's saying now because he realizes you would never date a guy who follows the master of manipulator.

[somegirl]

@StarStruck I don't know why you find yourself called out by some of my statements. I didn't say "I don't wanna be with you!!". I said "nice guy". Do you identify yourself as nice guy? 

[Sugarcoat]

14 hours ago, Chives99 said:

I'm not talking about engaging with drug users , they're rather unpleasant anyway that need help getting off it, you can certainly do research and find reputable sources where the woman is doing it part time as something extra and enjoys the thrill of meeting new people and is very sexual . In the latter it's really no different than porn 

Okay I see your point here. It’s really an exception to the norm . I wonder tho…doesn’t it still feel a little humiliating to one’s sense of self to have to pay someone to do this. Don’t you deep down want someone to want you for free, because you are you. I understand it can feel hard to attain but isn’t putting in the hard work instead more satisfactory then buying sex ?

[somegirl]

I don't want a nice guy, nor a macho type cause I don't want someone to disrespect me no matter how hot or popular he might be. I demonstrated that I dislike being disrespected multiple times with guys who are the "popular" ones, by leaving. 

I want a person who is authentic. Who expresses their true selves even if others might look at them weirdly. That's just attractive to me. 

Is adventurous, ambitious, loves life, has positive outlook on life. Is in shape. 

All while being respectful towards me and has strong need to take care of me. 

[Sugarcoat]

10 hours ago, nhoktinvt said:

guys stop arguing tks

This had me rolling for some reason ???

[nhoktinvt]

just doing my thing

[integral]

1 hour ago, StarStruck said:

I don’t know you but statistics don’t lie. Andrew type of guys get rewarded by females through sex all the time while nice guys don’t. If I have to choose between these two extremes I’m Andrew Tate all the way without any shame. You never gave a nice guy a chance so don’t try to take the higher ground here. ? I rather be a somebody who can fuck a brother up, makes money, self confidence and competence. You don’t want a guy who plays an instrument lmao, you just want a competent guy who knows what he is doing within and outside of the sheets. Obviously there are not two extremes but you are not getting my point. If a guy like Andrew Tate showed up without his bad reputation you would be all over him. Especially girls like you. ?

Example of stage green+ masculine man.

This is what you want to aim for, its extremely attractive to women. A guy who completely understands her, emotionally stable, high communication and empathy, knowledgeable, spiritual, funny, self-development mindset in all areas in life including the bedroom and has strong masculine energy, also balanced in there masculine/feminine polarity, jesus... they dont stand a chance. 

Andrew Tate type of guys are worthless to any woman on the higher end of the consciousness bell curve. 

Edited June 12, 2023 by integral

[Karmadhi]

Just saw this and made me lowkey feel like shit. How to get over the fact that I will never feel desired even 1/10 of this and even if I get a girl it will be through a lot of work and suffering and time invested?

 

[somegirl]

9 minutes ago, Karmadhi said:

How to get over the fact that I will never feel desired even 1/10 of this and even if I get a girl it will be through a lot of work and suffering and time invested?

By realizing your own freaking worth that you already have. Noone's gonna see your worth unless you do first. 

All the stuff that makes a guy attractive is everything that is within his reach and everything he can work for. 

Exit victim mindset and don't watch videos that make you feel powerless. 

Edited June 12, 2023 by somegirl