In judgement

[Reciprocality]

Every time I judge someone, regarding whatever it may be, I do it because I recognise in them what were already an affinity of my own.

 

That part of us which were born out of rejection of our own nature is simply prolonging its own existence through judgement, our ego creates a story of being separate from our nature, it makes little difference in the long run whether the object of judgement is externalised or internalised, it is all the human need for narrative, to not be enough.

We lose the ability to see the beauty of absolutely everything around us in proportion to the intensity of these narratives.

[Reciprocality]

The perpetuity of a state of beauty, nature, oneness, the absolute, god or enlightenment is ridiculous illusion.

That you expect anyone to show you that they are awake is a profanity, one of which only the need for narrative could be responsible, instead your mission is to find back to what you really are without expecting to remain you when you become it.

All that this forum is about is the method of finding back to what we are through judgement of what we became, and so you describe, discern, predicate, differentiate between one another, towards the creation of an even more separated self, all in the name of becoming one.

[Reciprocality]

You probably even thought that this were a critique of the forum, yet it weren't, for what I describe is the hopelessness itself of having lived for a lifetime in the world of constant need for narrative, story and identity to even function.

It has to be discovered that you have imposed that need for being someone onto yourself, and that you can let it go. In some weird way it has to be spontaneously let go of.

When you are a seeker of truth and oneness the only possible way to remain stuck as a seeker of truth and oneness is to differentiate between enlightened people and common folk. The last barricade your self identity has imposed on you to feel in control.

[Reciprocality]

So you sit there with your screen like a confused ape looking algorithmically for signs of whether I am trying to fool you of my enlightenment, for it is the only method the ego has.

You need others to guide you because this shit is way to much for yourself to handle, and so you create for yourself a crutch you may never be able to throw away.

Now I refuse to use your narratives and impose on my direct experience the ideas of "infinity" "god" and "absolute", when what is actually going on is either that I cry from how indescribable, ineffable, absurd, extreme, peaceful reality becomes through me, but reality itself is non of these descriptions, it refuses to be described except for in our thinking mind.

The pitfall I have identified in most of your cases is that you believe there is somehow a "right" way to describe the indescribable.

Edited June 1, 2023 by Reciprocality

[Kuba Powiertowski]

@Reciprocality Beautifully written. Full agreement.
The interesting thing is that all the shit and crap I've generated - mostly lies and judgments - the weight of it causes it to ignite or melt, whatever you prefer... At some point, you just get tired of it. You always, in the end, lie and judge yourself. Life without this burden is a flight into the sky.

[Reciprocality]

@Kuba Powiertowski  Yep, we judge others and thereby create ourself all the time, and then what this process amounts to is actual judgement of ourself, for we have then created rules for who we should be.

This is as you implied necessary for human living, no amount of enlightened sorcery will make your organism, whatever is the ground for your being, become a new one. And so this deed will be carried until your last day.

But by defining ourself not from how we are opposed to other people but by something of intrinsic worth, by addition instead of division, and treat that in us which has material towards that end as and end in itself, and start to notice the effortless perfection and beauty of things then there will be less and less inclination for judgement.

"Life without this burden is a flight into the sky."    Yes, but instead of a flight from the burden we find something to replace it with more and more for every day going by, then the sky wont have to consume us completely.

[Kuba Powiertowski]

@Reciprocality

So I'm moving from "mind" to "heart" more and more often. Among other things, this forum made me realize that mindfulness without heartfulness is simply sterile and barren. What is the purpose of conceptualizing something that cannot be described? I also don't think this human experience should be taken as a total prison you must escape as soon as possible. I reckon Maya is the illusion of absolute things created by the human mind that gradually become more important than reality itself. When you abandon Maya even for a second, reality feels as real as it can be. There is something "very sweet" here despite the enormity of bitterness, despair, and suffering - such a hidden impenetrable beauty that, as I sometimes experience it, makes me admire what is more and more. It's something in the heart of all of us - I don't know what it is. I don't need to know anymore:). By the way, your style reminds me of Alan Watts - is that you, Alan?

[Reciprocality]

2 hours ago, Kuba Powiertowski said:

What is the purpose of conceptualizing something that cannot be described?

@Kuba Powiertowski I think this is the biggest philosophical question, so I applaud you for having discovered it. It is the "meta" question of philosophy.

We can only fail in describing the already given, and our only method is 1. imposing on it (and through it) stories and myths and 2. deriving theories on it from what it already is through logic. So why do we continue doing it despite necessarily failing? Despite never being able to draw our own hand itself?

In my case I have gone into substance theory as a last bastion of hope towards depictions of reality, but even here it would be an insoluble question to ask what the purpose in these theories really are, even if I were to succeed in making reality necessary through arguments regarding its many substances. "negation is only possible in our limited minds, there are unlimited things, therefore something as opposed to nothing is an absolute necessity"

 

" I also don't think this human experience should be taken as a total prison you must escape as soon as possible"  For sure, if we are too quick in our movement towards self-absolution it may be an escapism from the harshness in the concrete problems of our lives. 

Ill reflect on the rest of your comment, and when it comes to comparing me to Watts I certainly have a steep curve ahead of me to live up to that standard so far as rhetorics are concerned, for he must have been unparalleled in that area.