Dignity

[Reciprocality]

4 minutes ago, Moksha said:

I would call it not a failure to think logically, but a success in seeing that truth is directly realized, beyond the conceptual capacity of the mind.

@Moksha You are creating a duality between "limited conceptual capacity of the mind" and "failure to think logically".

You are creating the same problem that Leo creates when he thinks that there are paradoxes, I would actually bet that if you gave me sufficient time I would be able to convince you that the trap you both fall in is identical and that I could show you why you create it and that you can solve it.

You create a duality between yourself and your "capacity".

[Moksha]

11 minutes ago, Reciprocality said:

You create a duality between yourself and your "capacity".

It may seem like a duality, if you consider your apparent self to be real. All dualities are illusion.

The absolute, which is who you actually are, is beyond dualities.

[gettoefl]

time for a little meditation break ?

 

 

[Razard86]

9 hours ago, gettoefl said:

time for a little meditation break ?

 

 

I raise you this.

 

[Breakingthewall]

dignity is absolute, the same as perfection. everything that exists is dignified and perfect, since the fact of existing entails these qualities. God is absolute perfection. all that exists is god. it is perfect, loved, worthy of existence. nothing is left out, everything is included. torture is dignified and perfect, child rape is dignified and perfect, slavery is dignified and perfect, genocide is dignified and perfect. reality is a perfect jewel. its perfection is dazzling, its dignity is total. Its love is absolute.

[Reciprocality]

Other humans are more different to us than animals are, not in the form through which their intellect creates distinctions, but in the content of the distinctions themselves.

To fail to see this is to fail to some or other extent a theory of mind, as it is called when instead of conceiving that others think the thought we do they think entirely their own thoughts, even when language makes it appear otherwise.

Failure of doing this is analogous to eating shit, under their common expression of, yes you guessed it, the absence of dignity.

To think that dignity comes from the intellect is to believe that the world is created out of logic. 

[Reciprocality]

@Moksha The distinctions in terms of which we are different through the intellect of our minds are made from logic, and are not the ideas themselves (only concepts and systems), which is why so many of you confuse solipsism for mysticism.

[Reciprocality]

So when I say dignity, and do nothing more than refer to a generalisation of an experience, and speak of nothing more or less than the possibility of experiences, you confuse the thing I am point towards for your own crippled notions of a meaning of the word.

You have literally created out of logic the meaning of something that has no foundation in direct experience, and you think you are so clever by refusing dualities in the very same motion as you create those that don't even exist, by imagining that ideas are in conceptual opposition to one another, when instead they are in disjunctive opposition in mere judgement.

That is, regarding a mere something (variable), it is one of an uncountable array of ideas, the rejection of each singular element of which is in no way an affirmation of any of the others, until you have exhausted them all, to say that dignity is dual to indignity is to say that when we don't want shit thrown at us we go through logical steps and reject every single ideas (headphones, lamps, creativity, forrest, Jupiter etc....) until only dignity remains and becomes consistent.

If for instance you wanted to be able to criticise orange/green SD stages from above it wont help you to understand their methods from beneath.

The duality dignity/indignity is created out of the logic we involve ourself in during and after the experience, the affinity for the experience itself however is not, even though also this affinity is identified through distinctions and an additional layer of logic.

[Reciprocality]

A bird is an expression of the affinity for experience, this affinity is the only thing reality in itself has, every possible conscious creature is an expression of it, Schopenhauer called it the will, Kant the thing in itself, Leo absolute infinity/god, Plato the Ideas, Nietzsche self-affirmation.

In some weird way it is the mystics who refuse truth by making appearances of what is not, though even this is nothing but truth. 

Throughout the eternity of the multiverse there will be expressions of experiences, and there is no other way and there were never any other possible way of doing this existence-stuff.

[Reciprocality]

And if you think that the multiverse is a theory you are out of your mind.

 

Edit: Universes are neither outside nor inside one another, they bare no relative relation to one another whatsoever, because inside and outside is a self-created notions of each of them.

Reality is not conditioned on matter, the substratum of what we call matter is homogeneity and has insufficient reality on its own (no duality), which is why we are duplicates of its self-simultaneity and therefrom the creation of time.

This time is a five dimensional chaotic crystallisation process of diminution of the mode of substance, the expansion of our universe is the physical expression of this.

 

Nothing is truly infinite except for the amount of expressions of the affinity for experience throughout the infinite multiverse. Our particular ego-self means absolutely nothing towards the higher and higher expressions possible of life.

To live freely is first possible when you don't compare to the magnitude of it all, yet recognise in yourself the same kind of thing which all possible expressions of life will ever take in this universe and could ever possibly do in any of the others.

Edited June 3, 2023 by Reciprocality

[Breakingthewall]

On 1/6/2023 at 5:59 PM, Razard86 said:

I raise you this.

 

⚡⚡⚡

[Moksha]

@Reciprocality The mind spins endlessly, like a top across the surface of a table, absorbed in its solitary dance, until at last it settles, returning to seamless stillness, the requiem of realization.

[Reciprocality]

@Moksha True!