Moderate/Progressive-Conservative

[ryandesreu]

The following behavior (self-disciplined, strong work ethic, clean, de-cluttered) along with these political views (rule of law, free market w/safety net, individual and collective responsibility, pro private property, strict abortion and gun laws but prohibiting neither) might place someone (me) as a conservative/moderate mix.

However, with these political views (separation of religion and state, not clinging to unhealthy traditions of over-consumption and consumerism, pro social security, anti Trump) to go with a humble, very open mind, I feel like I belong on the left.

So, I'm someone who behaves mostly conservative but thinks mostly moderate progressive. I'm a moderate/progressive-conservative. 

[Leo Gura]

That's a good place to be.

Being far right or far left is silly. Despite all the yelling they will do at you.

Edited May 30, 2023 by Leo Gura

[Danioover9000]

@ryandesreu

11 hours ago, ryandesreu said:

The following behavior (self-disciplined, strong work ethic, clean, de-cluttered) along with these political views (rule of law, free market w/safety net, individual and collective responsibility, pro private property, strict abortion and gun laws but prohibiting neither) might place someone (me) as a conservative/moderate mix.

However, with these political views (separation of religion and state, not clinging to unhealthy traditions of over-consumption and consumerism, pro social security, anti Trump) to go with a humble, very open mind, I feel like I belong on the left.

So, I'm someone who behaves mostly conservative but thinks mostly moderate progressive. I'm a moderate/progressive-conservative. 

   That's a nice view to operate on for your life. Not too extreme at either end of politics. Probably what most should aspire to be like.

   Of course, this agnostic position can't be forever, as some issue or situations close to your heart might happen, and you'll have to quickly take a stronger stance against, which will make you look more conservative or more progressive, this can happen. As long as you can return the agnostic nuanced perspective afterwards that's fine.

[Hardkill]

18 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

That's a good place to be.

Being far right or far left is silly. Despite all the yelling they will do at you.

Are there some progressives out there who are actually not necessarily far left like Bernie or AOC are?

Also, were FDR and LBJ actually far left wing Democrats during their times? Or were they still center-left Democrats for their times?

Edited May 31, 2023 by Hardkill

[Leo Gura]

I consider Bernie that. He's a very sensible progressive. He's not overly into woke culture war issues, which is where the left goes most wrong.

Edited May 31, 2023 by Leo Gura

[Hardkill]

5 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

I consider Bernie that. He's a very sensible progressive. He's not overly into woke culture war issues, which is where the left goes most wrong.

Wait, you actually consider him center-left, not hard left?

I never thought that a socialist could be considered as someone not far-left even though socialism is inherently an extreme left-wing ideology.

Edited May 31, 2023 by Hardkill

[Schizophonia]

On 30/05/2023 at 8:32 AM, Leo Gura said:

That's a good place to be.

Being far right or far left is silly. Despite all the yelling they will do at you.

Where is the "extreme" boundary?

[Leo Gura]

Bernie is not a socialist, basically.

[Leo Gura]

2 hours ago, Schizophonia said:

Where is the "extreme" boundary?

Where is any boundary?

[ryandesreu]

LBJ was moderate left, FDR was pretty progressive from what I've read and any Dem next to AOC today is moderate!

[Husseinisdoingfine]

On 5/31/2023 at 6:17 AM, Leo Gura said:

Bernie is not a socialist, basically.

Which is why I never liked it when he used the term ''Democratic-Socialist''. He has not singlehandedly confused and ruined the definition of Democratic Socialism for generations to come, making it harder for actual Democratic Socialists to promote their ideas.

[gettoefl]

leaves you better placed to find a woman if you are identifying as a conservative, at least according to this woman

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