Existence is unbelievable

[Reciprocality]

@Breakingthewall

16 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

Infinity is this moment here and now, and if you realize it, you will get atonished

You are trying to convey an experience by means of words that have meaning, "infinity" is a concept that just like "down" loses its meaning unless it is relative to "up", so tell me what is the finite thing in terms of which your statement makes sense?

Your experience, whatever it is, I am sure is very real, but it is no more or less downwards itself than it is infinity itself.

You try to use concepts but fail to recognise that their literal existence is contingent on making dualities.

Edited May 29, 2023 by Reciprocality

[Breakingthewall]

1 minute ago, Reciprocality said:

infinity" is a concept that just like "down" l

No, infinity is the absolute and has no opposite,is the now, and you have to realize it directly, you cannot think it, since thinking is contrasting one thing with another. you have to turn off your mind, remove the barrier of fear and open yourself to infinity and be it. The dualities are just barriers that you are creating, you can't see it until the barriers are removed

[Reciprocality]

Just now, Breakingthewall said:

No, infinity is the absolute and has no opposite,is the now, and you have to realize it directly, you cannot think it, since thinking is contrasting one thing with another. you have to turn off your mind, remove the barrier of fear and open yourself to infinity and be it. The dualities are just barriers that you are creating, you can't see it until the barriers are removed

@Breakingthewall It is actually more plausible that it is you who hold onto thoughts, because you refuse to admit somewhere along the way the nature of the concept of infinity and then wants to take personal ownership of a word that is used in radically different situations with a different meaning than you give to it and refuse to acknowledge that it came from this different place with this different meaning.

It probably did not help that what I can only infer as authority figures in your case did the same thing before you, such as Gura.

[Breakingthewall]

15 minutes ago, Reciprocality said:

probably did not help that what I can only infer as authority figures in your case did the same thing before you, such as Gura.

I talk just about my experience. I don't pay any attention to any teaching, they are just words, quite boring btw. The direct reality is the only interesting thing , it's alive, the words are dead

[Reciprocality]

@Breakingthewall A funny thing happens however if we investigate the consistency of my own statements under the same rule, the thread is called "existence is unbelievable", now since belief is one half of the self-subsistent concept of belief/disbelief (not to be refused to belief/unbelief, where the nature of the concept is a mere affirmation vs negation) it can on the surface look like I actually fail the consistency test, since the duality used tries to point to something outside itself without needing to point, but I would maintain that there are many believable things and that totality falls beyond the range of those things while you maintain that all things are infinite ("it is absolute").

But the thing is that I do not try to hold onto the unbelievability of existence, I merely acknowledge it as a momentary occurrence and argue for the process hiding behind the occurrence itself, while you wish to hold onto the occurrence and make a narrative out of it.

[Reciprocality]

@Breakingthewall Okay my fault at assuming otherwise. And I agree that direct experience is really what matters.