Indian origin teenager tries crashing into White House

[kray]

This is crazy. The suspect even had a nazi swastika in the back of his truck. An Indian-American right wing nut? A Mexican American neo nazi shooting up a mall in Texas? Is the right wing trying to diversify or something?

[Leo Gura]

You don't have to be white to be right-wing. This is a bad understanding of what nationalism, racism, and far right is.

There are far-right wingers in every country, every ethnicity, race, gender, and religion.

Edited May 24, 2023 by Leo Gura

[Something Funny]

@Leo Gura

I wonder what his understanding of nazism was. What did he think it stood for?

Did he not realize that he would have probably spent his life in a labour camp under nazism?

Edited May 24, 2023 by Something Funny

[Leo Gura]

It's important to distinguish between Nazism and nationalism. Most of these guys are American nationalists, not German Nazis.

Edited May 24, 2023 by Leo Gura

[Something Funny]

@Leo Gura yeah, but they are still using swastikas, do nazi salutes, and other shit like that.

[Leo Gura]

4 minutes ago, Something Funny said:

@Leo Gura yeah, but they are still using swastikas, do nazi salutes, and other shit like that.

Most of them don't.

[abundance]

Beau of the Fifth Column actually did an excellent video concerning this. Many people are confused about why people of color would embrace hard right and Nazi ideologies. It actually makes sense if you understand American history and how race can be a loosely defined concept used to maintain a social-economic hierarchy.  

https://youtu.be/vhFLoklZ-TE

 

Edited May 24, 2023 by abundance
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[kray]

10 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

You don't have to be white to be right-wing. This is a bad understanding of what nationalism, racism, and far right is.

There are far-right wingers in every country, every ethnicity, race, gender, and religion.

Yeah I know but generally in America, the far right are against people with brown or black skin, they spend huge portion of their time shitting on them. It just baffles me that minorities take on these ideas that are used against them. I guess since I’m at stage orange/green, it’s harder for me to understand the appeal of the far right.

[Schizophonia]

Nazism is not white supremacy.
The Nazis demonized the Slavs who for the most part were pure whites for political-historical reasons.
Conversely for the Indians, it is above all anti-Semitism which is the basis of the National Socialist ideology.

[Danioover9000]

@kray

On 2023-05-23 at 9:43 PM, kray said:

This is crazy. The suspect even had a nazi swastika in the back of his truck. An Indian-American right wing nut? A Mexican American neo nazi shooting up a mall in Texas? Is the right wing trying to diversify or something?

   The main takeaway is this:

On 2023-05-24 at 6:06 AM, Leo Gura said:

You don't have to be white to be right-wing. This is a bad understanding of what nationalism, racism, and far right is.

There are far-right wingers in every country, every ethnicity, race, gender, and religion.

 

On 2023-05-24 at 10:08 AM, Leo Gura said:

It's important to distinguish between Nazism and nationalism. Most of these guys are American nationalists, not German Nazis.

   Which is IMO way better than saying all conservatives are just Nazi, because thanks to the internet and digital and online culture and streamers/social media influencers, despite other developmental factors like stages of development, cognitive and moral development, personality types/traits, states of being/becoming, ego development, life experiences and other lines of development in life domains to societal domains, and other ideological beliefs indoctrinated and self biases and preferences for their own in-group, and due to the nature of language the far left and stage green valued excesses keep on using post modernism and relativity to corrupt and dilute the original meanings of some languages that people like Vaush and like him keep saying 'ALL CONSERVATIVES ARE NAZI' and keep diluting the original meanings.

[ryandesreu]

Basically all political commentary is strawmanning, cherry picking, and lies coming from different sides of the aisle. Occasionally we get someone who can tell truth but can only do it from one side. That's where this polarization is coming from.

Actualized understands this and can steelman both sides in depth. We need more of this! Stop the strawmen!