What is the most important principle in dating or pickup?

[StarStruck]

I've been reviewing my notes. It is mostly from RSD. Owen's at home program gives a great overview of all the principles you need to be successful. There are 5 overarchcing principles according to RSD:

1. Presence (RSD transformation is another program which helps you to become more present)
2. Clearity of intention (no specific program on principle but it is mostly about power versus force)
3. Strength of reality (RSD high vibe deals with this by setting right frames)
4. Entitlement (RSD Charisma deals with this)
5. Self entertainment (no specific program because it is straight forward)

What do you guys think is the most important? I listed the principles from most important to least important.

In my opinion presence is everything and everything flows from that. If you don't have presence, the other principles won't hit.

[NoSelfSelf]

Most important before all is becoming a man and an individual who is self made internally,bypassing this everything else is worthless shaky and will crumble,gonna sell yourself for a woman resort to manipulation,simping etc.

Great scene in the movie 300 is Leonidis refusing to kneel to Xerxis(or how its spelled) because he is standing on who he is as a man nothing can shake that, thats number 1!.

[StarStruck]

8 minutes ago, NoSelfSelf said:

Most important before all is becoming a man and an individual who is self made internally,bypassing this everything else is worthless shaky and will crumble,gonna sell yourself for a woman resort to manipulation,simping etc.

Great scene in the movie 300 is Leonidis refusing to kneel to Xerxis(or how its spelled) because he is standing on who he is as a man nothing can shake that, thats number 1!.

I would categorize that under the principle strength of reality of being masculine. 

Not all girls fall for this type of guy though. 

[NoSelfSelf]

@StarStruck Yeah but see what you just did by saying not all girls fall for this type of guys,you kneeled before Xerxis to save your ass ? you value her more than yourself,this is it what im trying to say with what comes before all other principles...you are saying pussy is more valuable than me as a whole, where Leonidis payed with his life because he is before all things...

[StarStruck]

3 minutes ago, NoSelfSelf said:

@StarStruck Yeah but see what you just did by saying not all girls fall for this type of guys,you kneeled before Xerxis to save your ass ? you value her more than yourself,this is it what im trying to say with what comes before all other principles...you are saying pussy is more valuable than me as a whole, where Leonidis payed with his life because he is before all things...

Dude. I’m not kneeling for pussy. I’m standing straight up like a hard dick. 

[NoSelfSelf]

@StarStruck Yes you are, for me its so obvious and from all your post combined you are doing it, like the last post about clubber girl you would go to a club do whatever it takes to get a chance, thats kneeling for pussy,you can choose to see it but okay if not im not here to force you to see it.

[StarStruck]

9 minutes ago, NoSelfSelf said:

@StarStruck Yes you are, for me its so obvious and from all your post combined you are doing it, like the last post about clubber girl you would go to a club do whatever it takes to get a chance, thats kneeling for pussy,you can choose to see it but okay if not im not here to force you to see it.

Ok. I see what you mean. But I wouldn’t actually kneel for her. 

[NoSelfSelf]

@StarStruck Didnt mean actually kneel ? but you figuratively kneeling by trying to be what she wants you to be,by treating her special,by manipulating to get into her pants,by letting her dictate the narrative,by wating her to like you its all like kneeling before Xerxis ?...

[meta_male]

@StarStruck The less you care about some other dude's principles the more success you'll have. But the reason you don't care can't be because you want more success. It's simply because you're going to come up with your own set of values, like @NoSelfSelf said.

[StarStruck]

1 hour ago, NoSelfSelf said:

@StarStruck Didnt mean actually kneel ? but you figuratively kneeling by trying to be what she wants you to be,by treating her special,by manipulating to get into her pants,by letting her dictate the narrative,by wating her to like you its all like kneeling before Xerxis ?...

But should a girl be seen as an enemy? I’m feeling like we are on the same team. It is kind of a weird dichotomy you are putting up making it like the girl is something you kneel to or not. 
 

 

11 minutes ago, meta_male said:

@StarStruck The less you care about some other dude's principles the more success you'll have. But the reason you don't care can't be because you want more success. It's simply because you're going to come up with your own set of values, like @NoSelfSelf said.

true 

[NoSelfSelf]

@meta_male thats more like it ?

@StarStruck Ofcourse not, its just something that is always happening a power dynamic,you either on top or on the bottom,by the way you operate, if you make a game about the woman then she is your enemy someone you worship, trying to make sleep with you, if shes not doing what you want  then like redpill you come on forum talk bad about women, because you are not vauling yourself by making her someone above its just is what it is..and its not forcing her to be on "bottom" its product of you being a man..

[UnbornTao]

Authenticity, being natural

Edited May 13, 2023 by UnbornTao

[Leo Gura]

Leave your house and fucking approach!

Edited May 12, 2023 by Leo Gura

[StarStruck]

2 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Leave your house and fucking approach!

My inner game sucks. A girl can’t fixed this. 

[museumoftrees]

The most important principle is desire. If you desire to get laid or get in a relationship you'll make it happen, the rest doesn't matter.

[Jacob Morres]

Damn thats pretty lit bc I thought top 2 in my head clicked this thread and the first 2 was what I thought lol 

Game specific though i'd say maybe calibration, connection and fun. <- But this idk subject to change 

Edited May 12, 2023 by Jacob Morres

[Leo Gura]

4 hours ago, StarStruck said:

My inner game sucks. A girl can’t fixed this. 

Approaching is what slowly builds inner game.

Of course the other principles are important too.

[Jacob Morres]

15 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Approaching is what slowly builds inner game.

Of course the other principles are important too.

Not inherently which is why I didn't get results my first 2-3 years I did game 

My inner game was so bad that almost all approaches became negative self fulfilling prophecy. I had such bad self esteem and a self image that everything fell on its face whenever i tried.  What I needed was rsd to tell me to go therapy lol for like 3y. this was 7 y.o. ago tho. 

Now doing approaches would be great for me , I've healed a ton of trauma since then and my self efficacy is in a place where my approaches would actually give me value 

Edited May 12, 2023 by Jacob Morres

[Buck Edwards]

To never take yourself too seriously. 

 

[Leo Gura]

4 hours ago, Jacob Morres said:

Not inherently

Well, you gotta be working on your inner game alongside going out.

Visualization exercises are really good for that.

Edited May 13, 2023 by Leo Gura