Why is Musk aligning himself with the worst alt right figures?

[Danioover9000]

@Leo Gura

9 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

@Danioover9000 How many people died to develop safe airplanes?

   Probably many more than those who might die getting this neural link implanted into their brains. At least with airplanes you either burn to death or die on impact, but with neural links you may get more seizures, brain strokes, brain fogs, increase in false memories because of potential overload of internet/digital information directly to the brain, newer ways to cyber bully or cyber hack via biology now, new ideological, socio-political, psycho-social problems like inflated self image, false self worth, increases in self entitlement, narcissism, neuroticism, sociopathy, ADD and ADHD, maybe increases in autism, social consequences like thought policing and data storage of people's thoughts that are private to them. The potential of negative consequences is in the hundreds at least for brain related problems. Is all that worth the tradeoff and cost? Maybe for those with other developmental factors like SD stages of development, cognitive and moral development, personality types/traits, ego development and shadow aspects, states of being/becoming, life experiences and other lines of development, and other ideological beliefs indoctrinated from upbringing and culture. Maybe it's fine for Silicon Valley culture and those identified with the technology sector and IT and S.T.E.M, but what about others similar and different to their culture?

   Despite how hateful I am towards Elon Musk, I want to see where this neural link experiment goes, maybe it goes to something interesting, or it's yet again another failure. I want to see this narcissist burn himself out over social media and Twitter, and hope he learns his lesson and return back more focus onto what he's more good at. 

[Leo Gura]

Neuralink is not implanted in normal healthy people, it is implanted in people with severe disabilities. Like if you have a spinal cord injury you might want to take a gamble to improve it with a Neuralink implant. Not a big deal.

Edited May 31, 2023 by Leo Gura

[StarStruck]

Elon Musk is doing God’s work 

[Tanz]

On 5/30/2023 at 4:55 PM, LSD-Rumi said:

Musk is overrated like hell. Bill Gates and Steve Jobs are worth more than a hundred Musk.

It's important not to hold anyone on a pedestal but at the same time all of these men, including Jeff Bezos dare to dream and put their thoughts into action.  Something most of us have trouble doing.  

[D2sage]

5 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Neuralink is not implanted in normal healthy people, it is implanted in people with severe disabilities. Like if you have a spinal cord injury you might want to take a gamble to improve it with a Neuralink implant. Not a big deal.

@Leo GuraParalyzed people from the waist down can walk again with (exoskeletons). https://gajitz.com/suit-x-40000-exoskeleton-lets-paralyzed-people-walk/

No need for implant.

The big deal is when engineers advance in the field  and combine EEG and the tech behind neuralink.

 

Elon mush is not the only one doing brain stuff.

https://www.emotiv.com/

https://www.suitx.com/

https://neurosky.com/

There are already EEG games you can buy. You use your mind o move stuff around.

As these instruments develop, it will probably be possible to do more complicated stuff.

https://www.amazon.com/Science-Trainer-Brain-Sensing-Hologram-Electronic/dp/B00X5CCDYQ?th=1

 

Edited May 31, 2023 by D2sage

[Danioover9000]

@StarStruck

3 hours ago, StarStruck said:

Elon Musk is doing God’s work 

   You mean the devil's work?

[Danioover9000]

@Tanz

1 hour ago, Tanz said:

It's important not to hold anyone on a pedestal but at the same time all of these men, including Jeff Bezos dare to dream and put their thoughts into action.  Something most of us have trouble doing.  

   How do we pursue our dreams without being more narcissistic or develop higher neurotics or other cognitive biases and declines?

[D2sage]

Why do people hate musk here?

Him buying Twitter was the best thing that happened. Before it was a toxic shitshow. Missinformation and fake news. Political bias and disgusting censorship.

He emphasized freedom of speech. The blue check mark as a paid feature is also a huge leap forwards. Before it favored public figures and celebrities who are detached from reality.

Musk have done more good. He pushed the electric vehicle industry forward. Tesla has the best battery.

He is actively doing something that is good for the environment.

Bidens team is supporting musk with $2.5 billion in funding to bring EV charging and alternative-fuel infrastructure to communities. Now, biden has a plan: https://www.energy.gov/articles/biden-clean-energy-plan-update-march-2023

Biden has voiced support for online censorship. No practical actions have been made.

Elon takes action.

Edited May 31, 2023 by D2sage

[Extreme Z7]

3 hours ago, D2sage said:

Him buying Twitter was the best thing that happened. Before it was a toxic shitshow. Missinformation and fake news. Political bias and disgusting censorship.

Now it's a safe haven for racists, fascists, and conspiracy theorists (Musk himself included).

[Leo Gura]

Musk buying Twitter is a net loss for everyone: for him and for the world.

He's wasting his time with it. It's a giant distraction.

Edited May 31, 2023 by Leo Gura

[Danioover9000]

@D2sage

15 hours ago, D2sage said:

Why do people hate musk here?

Him buying Twitter was the best thing that happened. Before it was a toxic shitshow. Missinformation and fake news. Political bias and disgusting censorship.

He emphasized freedom of speech. The blue check mark as a paid feature is also a huge leap forwards. Before it favored public figures and celebrities who are detached from reality.

Musk have done more good. He pushed the electric vehicle industry forward. Tesla has the best battery.

He is actively doing something that is good for the environment.

Bidens team is supporting musk with $2.5 billion in funding to bring EV charging and alternative-fuel infrastructure to communities. Now, biden has a plan: https://www.energy.gov/articles/biden-clean-energy-plan-update-march-2023

Biden has voiced support for online censorship. No practical actions have been made.

Elon takes action.

   Because of his right wing biases, and especially his billionaire narcissistic showing off, that's why he's hated here I guess.

   How was Elon Musk buying Twitter a good thing? We still have a shit show, misinformation and fake news, political biases and disgusting censorships and cancelations, but with Elon Musk we have a huge increase in trolling, hating, account impersonations, and right wing bias and shit show added to the mix along with Nationalism/patriotism/ethnocentrism and Nazi talking points in the mix, racism, Fascism, conspiracy theories and so on. How did Elon Musk make it better? Firing 50% or more of the Twitter staff? Trying to profit with the blue ticks? Treating this social media site problem like an engineer? Peddling and encouraging conspiracy theories?

   Here I might agree, Elon's good comes from Tesla and SpaceX, pushing the electric car and future space innovations.

   Partly good for the environment, we'll have to see what else he'll do besides electric cars.

   Biden's team specifically only support Elon Musk with funding for EV charging and alternative fuel, but not for the Twitter thing. Maybe there's more funding that we don't know.

   Yes, Biden has voiced support for online censorship, and is taking his time to carefully plan out how to do so without disregarding others based on SD stages of development, cognitive and moral development, personality types/traits, states of being/becoming, ego development, life experiences and other lines of development from life domains to societal domains, other ideological beliefs indoctrinated from culture, and other biases and preferences. Healthy censorship and cancelation is tricky to do quickly because it's not always perfect management of free speech.

   Meanwhile, Elon Musk, for whatever reason is buying and rushing forward with some vision for Twitter that IMO is not compatible for most other people, he's just playing dictator fantasy at this point.

Edited June 1, 2023 by Danioover9000

[D2sage]

Twitter was losing like $4 million per day, the layoff was to curb these losses.

In fact, they observed a drop in hate speech that was below historical average following the layoffs.

Yes it impacted many employees, from a business perspective, they were necessary step to address Twitter's significant daily financial losses. These people also got compensated good.

You argue that the problems of misinformation, political biases, and censorship persist on Twitter, and that issues like increased trolling and account impersonations have gotten worse since Musk's takeover. These are not unique to Twitter or any social media platform.

Misinformation and fake news is a challenge for all social media platforms, not just Twitter.

His vision for Twitter is to provide a platform that upholds freedom of speech. The paid checkmark feature is to to democratize verification, making it accessible to all users and not just public figures.

Musk is known for his unconventional approach, and only time will tell how his strategies will impact Twitter future.

Also, define racism. Some people can call  you a racist if you state the objective fact that increased immigration has  also increased crime rate in Sweden, for example.

Musk is "rushing forward" with changes. He is attempting to address some of the issues that Twitter has been facing. Successful leadership often involves difficult decisions making in a timely manner.

Elon Musk is a highly influential figure with many interests and activities, from electric vehicles and space exploration to AI and social media. His statements and actions often attract significant attention and can be polarizing.

Some people may appreciate his innovative spirit and bold ideas, while others may be put off by his style or disagree with his views or actions.

Edited June 1, 2023 by D2sage

[Leo Gura]

56 minutes ago, D2sage said:

In fact, they observed a drop in hate speech that was below historical average following the layoffs.

I don't think that's true.

I don't see why on Earth that would be true. Musk has done nothing I know of to reduce hate speech.

I have read media headlines that say studies show hate speech has increased.

Edited June 1, 2023 by Leo Gura

[Girzo]

45 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

I don't see why on Earth that would be true. Musk has done nothing I know of to reduce hate speech.

By laying off staff, there’s no-one here to label hate speech as hate speech, thus twitter = no hate speech. Great success! - Elon Musk, probably

[JTL]

Twitter has become an rightwing disinformation platform, with little to no moderation. Elon Musk's word is worth as much as Donald Trump's when it comes to these stuff. https://uk.news.yahoo.com/elon-musk-twitter-algorithm-changes-154159012.html

Edited June 1, 2023 by JTL

[D2sage]

11 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

I have read media headlines that say studies show hate speech has increased.

You can't just rely on headlines

However, its not that simple.

Researchers and journalists have evidence for the increase in hate speech on Twitter since Musk took over.  Like the doubling of anti-Semitic tweets and an 70% increase in Islamic State accounts.

How do you define hate speech and racism these days? People can call you a racist if you say that 99% of the gangs in Sweden are immigrants or are born in Sweden but comes from a different culture. All the trials  are public domain and you can see it for yourself that it is the case on PrimeCrime YT channel.

Hate speech can be subjective.

Also;

Musk has pushed back against these studies and investigations. He say that he has taken a politically neutral line, and that not only right-wing accounts have been reinstated, but some left-wing accounts as well. He has also say that his efforts to delete bots have decreased misinformation on Twitter since his takeover.

If people think Musk and Twitter is the problem, they are being cynical.

If you guys care some much about hate speech and misinformation,  you are stupid if you are stuck on Twitter. 

The #1 platform for hate speech is TikTok. But why aren't we taking about TikTok to combat hate speech, weird since that platform has 6-8 year old kids.

Also, TikTok had around 1 billion active users, while Twitter had approximately 330 million active users.

But no, musk is a billionaire and therefore evil - someone on Actualized.org forum probably.

Edited June 2, 2023 by D2sage

[MAHAVATAR_-_BABAJI]

11 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

I don't think that's true.

I don't see why on Earth that would be true. Musk has done nothing I know of to reduce hate speech.

I have read media headlines that say studies show hate speech has increased.

Is reducing hate speech even a task which is achievable? 

[MAHAVATAR_-_BABAJI]

1 hour ago, D2sage said:

You can't just rely on headlines

However, its not that simple.

Researchers and journalists have evidence for the increase in hate speech on Twitter since Musk took over.  Like the doubling of anti-Semitic tweets and an 70% increase in Islamic State accounts.

How do you define hate speech and racism these days? People can call you a racist if you say that 99% of the gangs in Sweden are immigrants or are born in Sweden but comes from a different culture. All the trials  are public domain and you can see it for yourself that it is the case on PrimeCrime YT channel.

Hate speech can be subjective.

Also;

Musk has pushed back against these studies and investigations. He say that he has taken a politically neutral line, and that not only right-wing accounts have been reinstated, but some left-wing accounts as well. He has also say that his efforts to delete bots have decreased misinformation on Twitter since his takeover.

If people think Musk and Twitter is the problem, they are being cynical.

If you guys care some much about hate speech and misinformation,  you are stupid if you are stuck on Twitter. 

The #1 platform for hate speech is TikTok. But why aren't we taking about TikTok to combat hate speech, weird since that platform has 6-8 year old kids.

Also, TikTok had around 1 billion active users, while Twitter had approximately 330 million active users.

But no, musk is a billionaire and therefore evil - someone on Actualized.org forum probably.

I have yet to come across any hate speech on tiktok. I simply see horny men, writing implicit hints that suggest their intentions. 

[D2sage]

@MAHAVATAR_-_BABAJI

3 hours ago, MAHAVATAR_-_BABAJI said:

I have yet to come across any hate speech on tiktok. I simply see horny men, writing implicit hints that suggest their intentions. 

If only the whole world had the exact same TikTok feed as you.

Malaysia general election demonstrated that out of 679 TikTok videos with over 1,000 views, 373 contained hateful narratives and propaganda.

Another study was based on a sample of 1,030 videos, posted on tiktok. These videos were used to promote hatred, as well as glorify extremism and terrorism. The report discussed how various features of TikTok, like the profiles, hashtags, share functions, video effects, and music, are used to spread hate. https://www.isdglobal.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/HateScape_v5.pdf   <--- Full report.

Research has found that TikTok plays a role in facilitating the spread of hate speech, as well as misinformation and disinformation.

Quote

"Algorithms show users content based on their interests, creating echo chambers that further reinforce existing beliefs and biases. The short-form video format makes it difficult to provide context and fact-checking for the information presented, making it a fertile ground for hate speech and mis/disinformation to spread".

• GlobalWebIndex: 41% of TikTok users were between the ages of 16 and 24.
• 10-19 age range made up the largest group of TikTok users in the US
•  20-29 age range was the second-largest group, 29.5%

 

• Twitter: 18-29 year olds (Adults, grown men and women), which comprises 42% of the user base as of 2023 

https://sproutsocial.com/insights/new-social-media-demographics/

10-19 year olds is the largest user base in US for TikTok.

More studies on tiktok here:

 

Edited June 2, 2023 by D2sage

[VoidJumper]

17 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

I have read media headlines that say studies show hate speech has increased.

Phew. Glad to see you truly are as intellectually rigorous as you always claim. The level of analysis is unparalleled!