5 Masculine ways to stop looking at women

[ValiantSalvatore]

10 hours ago, Thought Art said:

spiral dynamics doesn’t measure ones ‘simp’ level. 
 

could be a simp at any stage ?

True it does not, yet it does show masculine and feminine dynamics mostly a lot of stage orange guys are very masculine to more deeper they integrate it, and you can see this clearly imo. 

To be frank I don't know what a simp is. Maybe it's even better to accept the need for recognition and attention at orange typically and engage in it in a way where you feel the need is meet. I struggle with this also. Not as a simp, yet as a basic need. 

[integral]

1 hour ago, StarStruck said:

@Thought Art

The sports I do I do purely to test my theory of mastery in practice. That is why I don't look at a person's value system (SD stage), I'm pretty unbiased and unprejudiced when tapping into knowledge.

For me this just counts for sports but also counts for dating and social skills. That is why some people don't understand me on this forum. I put a wall between a person's value system and what I can learn from that person in terms of mastery. 

If you find his work inspirational you should keep watching him. Inspiration is a good indicator. People get inspired by different things so there is no value judgement in that. 

We are already doing this, no on is judging orange. 

[StarStruck]

 

30 minutes ago, integral said:

We are already doing this, no on is judging orange. 

I wasn't saying that we are judging orange but some kind of judgement (in the general sense) is integral in the human experience unless you are fully enlightened and I don't think there is a fully enlightened person on this forum.

38 minutes ago, ValiantSalvatore said:

True it does not, yet it does show masculine and feminine dynamics mostly a lot of stage orange guys are very masculine to more deeper they integrate it, and you can see this clearly imo. 

To be frank I don't know what a simp is. Maybe it's even better to accept the need for recognition and attention at orange typically and engage in it in a way where you feel the need is meet. I struggle with this also. Not as a simp, yet as a basic need. 

Is it possible to simp if a person is fully tier 2, for example a fully integrated SD yellow person? I feel like simping will weed itself out once you approach tier 2. At least that is my exp. Simping is a lot of projection and focusing on the external. I think SD yellow has enough self-awareness and insight to see through this neurosis.

Edited May 3, 2023 by StarStruck

[ValiantSalvatore]

39 minutes ago, StarStruck said:

Is it possible to simp if a person is fully tier 2, for example a fully integrated SD yellow person? I feel like simping will weed itself out once you approach tier 2. At least that is my exp. Simping is a lot of projection and focusing on the external. I think SD yellow has enough self-awareness and insight to see through this neurosis.

There definitely would be less of it, yet trauma I bet could play a significant role and life experience, as you'd generally act more non-judgemental and you for the first time have this perception of beign "beyond control" and having more influence on the world around you. Imo there is a power gain that is not reversable besides if life conditions heavily drop. 

The heaviest simping I find at blue when a blue type brings flowers to the girl on the first date etc. At stage Green there is just mostly this pedestal type thinking I find and girls can be put on a pedestal, and many are amazed by how masculine women are, and are looking to engage somewhat in this dynamic of reverse roles I presume. I don't see many relationships nowadays... so it's tricky to comment on it. As well as my dates have been all over the spiral. 

Stage yellow definitely can be to neutral. I find when I am stable at turqouise stuff plays out itself perfectly as masculine and female dynamic is just more integrated inside the body and my "masculine core" is more present, yet this is from integrating body work, exercise etc. When I am to much in my head at yellow I can be to neutral and to feminine, even if it is a left-brained stage. At best I am intellectually dominating as a masculine principle with logic and analysis, I feel this is what happens with many "more aware" academics at the beginning of their journey, till the girl also does it, and then there is an unawareness of the dynamic and a regress to more Greenish inner child type desires and purple finding partners who integrate the lower stages. For proper balance. Like the guy who truely enjoys watching cringe anime movies, and still is manly or engage in some bad boy fantasy at red and is still not a red gangster, and buying a cool car, or wearing clothes etc. Or even just the classic blue more traditional housewive, macho dynamic and still not beign fully there creating enough balance. So the lower desires of partners balance each other out and there is more awareness and need for that. As well as more communication at that level. 

SD yellow or strategist has the fault of not recognizing ones own projections onto others, yet recognizing the projection on itself. So there could be issues with that in terms of simping. He/She might be simping and is aware of that, yet does not recognize that he/she might also be the cause for the simping itself... because he/she proejcts this onto others and sees the world like this, and denies the projection has an impact. Similar to this physics thing with the observation effect.

SD yellow has the issue of beign masculine at lower stage mostly and sees the need of the individuals ones imo and from my personal experience, especially red&orange masculine drives that can take a strong end -> imo see self-optimization trend concept of balance turned very masculine. At turqouise it get's very tricky as it's a more feminine stage, and I don't have enough turqouise interactions from an emotional level to make a comment on this mostly ego-awareness and that is different... 

 

Edited May 3, 2023 by ValiantSalvatore