Pro tip: use AI for contemplation

[StarStruck]

Rocky. Perhaps you can ask AI how to stop strawmanning people. ?

 

Strawmanning is a common fallacy in which someone misrepresents or oversimplifies an opponent's argument in order to make it easier to attack. Here are some steps you can take to avoid strawmanning:

1. Listen actively: When engaging in a conversation or debate, make sure you are truly listening to the other person's perspective. Try to understand their argument and their reasoning, and ask clarifying questions if necessary.

2. Steelman the argument: Instead of immediately jumping to conclusions or counterarguments, try to steelman the other person's argument. This means actively working to make their argument as strong and compelling as possible, even if you ultimately disagree with it.

3. Restate the argument: Before responding to the other person's argument, take a moment to restate it in your own words. This can help you ensure that you have truly understood their position and that you are not misrepresenting it.

4. Address the actual argument: When responding to the other person's argument, make sure you are addressing the actual argument they have presented, rather than a simplified or exaggerated version of it. This means engaging with their reasoning and evidence, rather than attacking a strawman.

5. Avoid assumptions: Avoid making assumptions about the other person's beliefs or motivations. Instead, focus on the argument itself and try to engage with it on its own terms.

6. Acknowledge common ground: Even if you ultimately disagree with the other person's argument, try to acknowledge any areas of common ground or shared values. This can help to build a more productive and respectful conversation.

7. Practice empathy: Try to put yourself in the other person's shoes and understand their perspective. This can help you to approach the conversation with more empathy and understanding, and can help to avoid strawmanning.

By following these steps, you can work to avoid strawmanning and engage in more productive and respectful conversations and debates.

Edited May 1, 2023 by StarStruck

[Jacob Morres]

For ppl who don't have gpt4, here's a guide I saw on reddit to get it for free (tho disclaimer I've not tried it cuz i got gpt4)

https://www.reddit.com/r/ChatGPT/comments/132qcmg/access_gpt4_for_free_20_interactions_per_4hour/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

[StarStruck]

ChatGPT is limited to 20 conversations?

[r0ckyreed]

5 hours ago, StarStruck said:

Rocky. Perhaps you can ask AI how to stop strawmanning people. ?

 

Strawmanning is a common fallacy in which someone misrepresents or oversimplifies an opponent's argument in order to make it easier to attack. Here are some steps you can take to avoid strawmanning:

1. Listen actively: When engaging in a conversation or debate, make sure you are truly listening to the other person's perspective. Try to understand their argument and their reasoning, and ask clarifying questions if necessary.

2. Steelman the argument: Instead of immediately jumping to conclusions or counterarguments, try to steelman the other person's argument. This means actively working to make their argument as strong and compelling as possible, even if you ultimately disagree with it.

3. Restate the argument: Before responding to the other person's argument, take a moment to restate it in your own words. This can help you ensure that you have truly understood their position and that you are not misrepresenting it.

4. Address the actual argument: When responding to the other person's argument, make sure you are addressing the actual argument they have presented, rather than a simplified or exaggerated version of it. This means engaging with their reasoning and evidence, rather than attacking a strawman.

5. Avoid assumptions: Avoid making assumptions about the other person's beliefs or motivations. Instead, focus on the argument itself and try to engage with it on its own terms.

6. Acknowledge common ground: Even if you ultimately disagree with the other person's argument, try to acknowledge any areas of common ground or shared values. This can help to build a more productive and respectful conversation.

7. Practice empathy: Try to put yourself in the other person's shoes and understand their perspective. This can help you to approach the conversation with more empathy and understanding, and can help to avoid strawmanning.

By following these steps, you can work to avoid strawmanning and engage in more productive and respectful conversations and debates.

Did you use Chat GPT to tell me about strawmanning? Here’s what I got:

“Strawmanning occurs when someone misrepresents or oversimplifies someone else's argument, usually to make it easier to attack or refute. Here are some tips to help you avoid strawmanning:

1. Listen carefully: Listen to the other person's argument carefully and try to understand their perspective. Don't make assumptions or jump to conclusions.

2. Restate their argument: Restate the other person's argument in your own words to make sure you understand it correctly.

3. Ask clarifying questions: Ask questions to clarify any points that you aren't sure about.

4. Avoid generalizations: Avoid making generalizations or assuming that the other person believes something that they haven't explicitly stated.

5. Don't oversimplify: Avoid oversimplifying the other person's argument by reducing it to a single point or ignoring important details.

6. Address the strongest points: Address the strongest points of the other person's argument, rather than attacking weaker or irrelevant points.

7. Be respectful: Be respectful and avoid using strawman arguments to dismiss or belittle the other person's position.

By following these tips, you can engage in constructive and respectful discussions that lead to a better understanding of different perspectives.”

What you wrote looks very similar to Chat GPT. 

I will just end this conversation with this. You were the first to do a straw man in this thread. There you go, I just did a Tue Quo Que fallacy on you. Have you ever heard of that one? 

I will do my best to apply what you wrote though. I think you make good points on using AI as an accessory to your mind for contemplation. I probably wouldn’t have considered using Chat GPT if not for your post so thank you. May The Force be with you! ?❤️?

[Jacob Morres]

@StarStruck

yeah 25 every 4 hours. but if you use it a lot it's an opportunity to get more roi in your prompts.

 

Last thing i wanted to post:

CEO is spending more than $2,000 a month on ChatGPT Plus accounts for all of his employees, and he says it's saving 'hours' of time:

https://yhoo.it/3LlPMXn

Akash Nigam, the founder of Genies — the $1 billion avatar tools company used by celebrities like Justin Bieber and Cardi B — is spending $2,400 a month on ChatGPT Plus accounts for all of his 120 employees as part of an experiment to boost productivity and save money. Insider verified the purchase of the accounts with a receipt.

Genies' R&D team, for instance, has used ChatGPT to answer math and coding questions, get advice on how to debug code, and generate scripts for presentations based on outlines, he said. Other employees have used it to generate creative briefs, write legal documents like internal policies, and answer technical questions.

Nigam said ChatGPT has been most helpful in creating a technical roadmap, or an outline that lays out a company's strategy around releasing a new product. The process of making a plan, he said, "would normally require hours and hours" of manual brainstorming among colleagues. Instead, he fed ChatGPT all the information needed in the plan, then asked the AI to organize it in a chart and delegate the tasks to the right teams.

"It's almost like you have the most sophisticated operating partner at your disposal that's able to quickly center your thoughts and ensure that you're consistently on track," he said.

[Yimpa]

18 hours ago, StarStruck said:

Rocky. Perhaps you can ask AI how to stop strawmanning people. ?

That will ultimately come from massive life experience and radical inner growth.