How can socialism work when it’s failed in the past.

[ChrisZoZo]

My mum said to me “ask @Leo Gura how can socialism succeed if it is failed in the past”. I’m not privately messaging Leo but  I am interested hearing you guys  perspectives on this. 

[RareGodzilla]

You need stage orange or at least well developed blue society for capitalism to work. In stage red society it won't work. It's kinda like how USA attempted to enforce democracy on stage red/blue countries like Afganistan. It can't work, people don't want it and they are not ready. 

Same with socialism, it can't work on a stage red or even blue society. People need a higher stage of development in orded for the system to work, socialism is inherently based on solidarity, if everyone is just attempting to give into the system as little as possible and take as much as possible it becomes impossible for the system to work.

Even Karl Marx wrote that socialism would come as a step after capitalism. Historic irony had it that socialists only won in semi-feudal countries. 

Edited April 27, 2023 by RareGodzilla

[Leo Gura]

Depends on how you define socialism.

Soviet-style socialism will never work. Something akin to the Nordic model already works. You could create a more extreme form of the Nordic model in the future. Maybe it could work if the culture and populace is very developed. Then again, that might not even be a good system. At some point too much pampering by the state will become counter-productive and make people weak and lazy.

Edited April 27, 2023 by Leo Gura