'Feminism Is Dividing South Korea'

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[Raze]

What vice’s slanted documentary does not mention, is the reason young men are turning on feminists there is because the feminist movement there is so extreme as to have alienated them, they actually used to support it. They got porn banned, a large feminist group openly chose a male body shaming sign as their symbol, they’ve changed the laws so that when it comes to sexual harassment you are guilty until proven innocent, etc. 

The feminists had a lot of support in government until recently and just became more and more extreme, and never once addressed the anti male sexism such as how only men are forced to perform military service.

Unfortunately the backlash isn’t enough, South Korea’s society is already atomized and hostile to a point where it has one of the worst birth rates in the world, it is too little too late.

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55 minutes ago, Raze said:

What vice’s slanted documentary does not mention, is the reason young men are turning on feminists there is because the feminist movement there is so extreme as to have alienated them, they actually used to support it. They got porn banned, a large feminist group openly chose a male body shaming sign as their symbol, they’ve changed the laws so that when it comes to sexual harassment you are guilty until proven innocent, etc. 

The feminists had a lot of support in government until recently and just became more and more extreme, and never once addressed the anti male sexism such as how only men are forced to perform military service.

Unfortunately the backlash isn’t enough, South Korea’s society is already atomized and hostile to a point where it has one of the worst birth rates in the world, it is too little too late.

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 the reason feminism is getting deeper and deeper is because of the lack of employment. I don't know if other countries are similar, but the unemployment problem in Korea is getting serious. Women avoid dangerous or physically demanding jobs and prefer high-paying office jobs or large corporations that can work in the metropolitan area. However, these companies are still generally maintaining the military bonus points. People who support feminism are calling for abolition of the military bonus point, but as you know, Korea does not recruit soldiers like the United States. All Korean men should go to the military. The part where they do not have a choice is being compensated with military bonus points, but feminists argue that the military bonus points should be abolished, arguing that conscripting women into the military does not take into account their physical disadvantages.
As a similar example, there is female police officers issue. Unlike the American police officers I see on YouTube, Korean female police officers do not actually do anything at the scene of the incident

 

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11 minutes ago, RebornConsciousness said:

It's a bit too early for feminism when your neighbour is North Korea, whose population is completely obedient and they can shell your capital city with 10s of thousands of artillery shells during the first few hours of potential conflict. Feminism can only flourish in a peacefull relatively advanced society.

Doesn't seem like those feminists want anything radical though. Just the standard stuff. Maybe banning porn is a bit too much. But hey, looking at Sakura's tits is not necessary for survival, is it

What about a powerful LBTQ army then? Maybe they  may have emphathy for the 'socialist' North and unity will come.

[Israfil]

1 hour ago, RebornConsciousness said:

looking at Sakura's tits is not necessary for survival, is it

Different men, different needs. Don't be so quick to judge, pal.

[Israfil]

33 minutes ago, RebornConsciousness said:

I wasn't being judgemental, just said it's not necessary for survival. Besides, I don't think it's possible to ban porn unless you ban the internet itself, like in North Korea. Black market will also always exist for anything, especially in a capitalist society of South Korea.

Banning porn - or changing it into something very soft core - would probably be the ultimate logical conclussion and goal of feminist anti-objectification doctrine, taken to illogical extreme. Certain baseline of objectification is baked into the human genes, I'm afraid, no way you can change that unless you change our biology. This is the case especially for men.

I was just kidding, man. I knew what you meant and you were right.

[Danioover9000]

@Epikur

10 hours ago, Epikur said:

 

   I kinda feel sorry for the south Koreans here. They're getting an increasing left wing ideology from within the country, Tik Tok brain spreading here as well with the face surgery and beautification problem which all traces to consuming too much social media and internet and cognitive decline, and on the other hand they got NORTH KOREA to the north, along with China, not to mention risk of war escalating with North's nuke prepping.

   They still got the best BBQ restaurants though.

[Danioover9000]

@RebornConsciousness

9 hours ago, RebornConsciousness said:

It's a bit too early for feminism when your neighbour is North Korea, whose population is completely obedient and they can shell your capital city with 10s of thousands of artillery shells during the first few hours of potential conflict. Feminism can only flourish in a peacefull relatively advanced society.

Doesn't seem like those feminists want anything radical though. Just the standard stuff. Maybe banning porn is a bit too much. But hey, looking at Sakura's tits is not necessary for survival, is it

   TRUE! Feminism mostly works when a society is stable and peaceful enough, and is collectively secure against wars and invasions. Feminism is relative as well, there's good versions and toxic versions, as much as the men's rights movements, good versions and toxic ones, all depending on SD stages of development, cognitive and moral development, personality types and traits, states of consciousness, life experiences and other lines of development in an individual's domains to societal domains, and ideological upbringing and indoctrination. These and many other factors changes what and how good/bad an idea is.

   Although biases and preferences are relative, I get more creative when looking at beautiful doujinshi, to me that's sexual transmutation, from being a bit horny, to then singing my heart out or drawing. Just eye orgasms of beauty stimulates my creativity.

Edited April 27, 2023 by Danioover9000

[Raze]

13 hours ago, RebornConsciousness said:

It's a bit too early for feminism when your neighbour is North Korea, whose population is completely obedient and they can shell your capital city with 10s of thousands of artillery shells during the first few hours of potential conflict. Feminism can only flourish in a peacefull relatively advanced society.

Doesn't seem like those feminists want anything radical though. Just the standard stuff. Maybe banning porn is a bit too much. But hey, looking at Sakura's tits is not necessary for survival, is it

South Korea would destroy North Korea, at this point they are only afraid nk will let off a nuke in a populated city, I don’t think that’s a problem.

Banning porn isn’t all they did, I need to emphasize that most people including most men actually supported feminists in South Korea and they had a lot of government power, people are only now turning on them because of how nuts they became. Something like 80% of men in SK are porting being discriminated against for being male and the feminists are pushing for even more.

[Danioover9000]

@Raze

48 minutes ago, Raze said:

South Korea would destroy North Korea, at this point they are only afraid nk will let off a nuke in a populated city, I don’t think that’s a problem.

Banning porn isn’t all they did, I need to emphasize that most people including most men actually supported feminists in South Korea and they had a lot of government power, people are only now turning on them because of how nuts they became. Something like 80% of men in SK are porting being discriminated against for being male and the feminists are pushing for even more.

   The problem is that there used to be a man power advantage in South, but over time the population of the north grew enough that land military is now equal. The bigger issue is tactical nukes that the North has demonstrated, with fake missles their missles range, and it's ridiculously long enough that it can hit the USA. All North Korea has to do, is strike ket strategic military bases within Sough Korea, and USE bases in korea, even though the biggest USA naval base in Hawaii will retaliate along witb others and nuclear  warfare begins.

   Even before it escalates, and it's skirmishes, there's a lot of artillery from North and South that can last months, but Souel, capital of south Korea, is within bombardment of those artillery.

[Tanz]

Any time you get any type of ism or ist you will get some resistance because whenever people get married to any type of identity there will be failures.  

[Danioover9000]

@RebornConsciousness

3 hours ago, RebornConsciousness said:

No feminists in Ukraine.

To be fair, no social movements can exist and be given attention to in war conditions, so one could certainly also ask "Why are there no MRA's in Ukraine?" or "Why is there no BLM in Ukraine?" Still, it leaves a somewhat bitter taste in mouth when you realize many Ukrainean women are partying and enjoying life in other countries they fled to (or even in their own home country) and a lot of them are active on Tinder and Bumble, while Ukrainean men are dying on the frontline in droves. But then you could say "But men started the war!" Even if so, it's still fucked up

   Yeah, it's a bit tragic to me although it does depend on many factors. I'm reminded of history again, when in the later parts of WW2 Germany was invading Russia, and BOTH Russian men and women were fighting in the front lines at Leningrad, it was such a fierce fighting that it was renamed Stalingrad for how they kept on defending that position and stalling the Nazi German blitzkrieg. I do think some Ukrainian women are fighting too, but from footages it seems most are just men.