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Heavy metal toxicity and detox are overblown?

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Many diseases being autoimmune or not or psychiatric have a very strong genetic component. This is one of the reasons why a minority of people in society, if they adopte a healthy lifestyle, don't develop such diseases and why wild animals develop less diseases than humans. Evolution doesn't create perfect bodies, it creates biological bodies that have the minimum ability to survive (certain percentage of individuals will have diseases) and  in humans the development of  cognition and the massive development in the social structure and in medicine that are not available to animals allowed for the survivability of weak and diseased individuals and the passing of inferior genes which in turn, ironically, produced more diseased individuals. 

Autoimmunity is such a severe condition that an aggressive approach  using corticosteroids, and other immunosuppresants (these substances are very powerful, and can kill your immunity entirely in large doses) may even fail in reducing the symptoms in severe diseases. 

I think the idea of detoxing and heavy metal toxicity and how they can  miraculously cure autoimmune diseases is overblown and overrated but I still have to do my research. I do see how they can be very beneficial in certain individuals but I also see the other empty half of the cup. 

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2 hours ago, LSD-Rumi said:

Many diseases being autoimmune or not or psychiatric have a very strong genetic component. This is one of the reasons why a minority of people in society, if they adopte a healthy lifestyle, don't develop such diseases and why wild animals develop less diseases than humans. Evolution doesn't create perfect bodies, it creates biological bodies that have the minimum ability to survive (certain percentage of individuals will have diseases) and  in humans the development of  cognition and the massive development in the social structure and in medicine that are not available to animals allowed for the survivability of weak and diseased individuals and the passing of inferior genes which in turn, ironically, produced more diseased individuals. 

That's one paradigm. People are broken from birth and we need to reduce there symptoms for the rest of there lives with drugs.

Another factor is the stressors in the environment, cultural and social effect everyone differently. Genetics is the fail zone of there body. With accumulation of stress on the system from birth over time the question is what part of the organism fails first? For some its there kidneys, for others its chronic inflammation of joints, arteries, or thyroid or OCD. Somethings going to fail.

Genetics is associated with how the organisms system will fail from the stress put on it. Reducing every stressor put on the system is key and the body will regenerating back to base line. The longer the stress put on the system the more errors accumulate in the system reducing the effectiveness of recovery (age). 

2 hours ago, LSD-Rumi said:

Autoimmunity is such a severe condition that an aggressive approach  using corticosteroids, and other immunosuppresants (these substances are very powerful, and can kill your immunity entirely in large doses) may even fail in reducing the symptoms in severe diseases. 

Maybe the problem is not the immune system.

Similarly when someone has a lot of inflammation maybe the problem is not inflammation. 

We got to stop focusing on the symptoms...

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1 hour ago, integral said:

Maybe the problem is not the immune system.

Similarly when someone has a lot of inflammation maybe the problem is not inflammation. 

We got to stop focusing on the symptoms...

I am totally with you on this but the point of the post is that some big claims about detoxing heavy metals are not that true actually. 


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1 hour ago, integral said:

Genetics is associated with how the organisms system will fail from the stress put on it. Reducing every stressor put on the system is key and the body will regenerating back to base line. The longer the stress put on the system the more errors accumulate in the system reducing the effectiveness of recovery (age). 

In most cases, no matter how catious you are, your body will fail, it is just a matter of time. 


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Both of us will be consumed.

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1 hour ago, LSD-Rumi said:

I am totally with you on this but the point of the post is that some big claims about detoxing heavy metals are not that true actually. 

Right, I'm saying the genetic component is indicating how the system will fail, so heavy metals can still be playing a role. Its a stressor on the system. 

1 hour ago, LSD-Rumi said:

In most cases, no matter how catious you are, your body will fail, it is just a matter of time. 

Why does the rate of disease go up every year? 


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9 minutes ago, integral said:

Why does the rate of disease go up every year? 

Because your body is exposed to more toxins and more stressors every year, let alone the aging process.


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This is a shitpost. 

You need to pick up a book and read at least some of it when it comes to health. 

Immunosuppresants won't just potentially fail, they will certainly fail because they are a bandaid solution.

Go sniff some heavy metals and see how you immune system holds up. 

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