Be Careful With Owen Cook

[Israfil]

17 hours ago, Optimized Life said:

5K in their bank account that shouldn't even be allowed to buy certain self help products, there should be a physical barrier to them spending 1K as it's 20% of their net worth

If that barrier existed, I wouldn't have gotten the job I currently hold.

[Israfil]

25 minutes ago, Twentyfirst said:

I think courses are more to save time

Why would I spend hours researching a topic when I could use those hours to work and get money and then use that money to buy the course and still have time leftover 

Value your time more than that fiat 

The point is that pick-up artists will charge you more than your hourly wage to teach you something you can learn by doing. If you buy a 10k, 2-hour course from a pick-up artist to learn a skill you can learn in less than 100 hours, and you make less than 100 USD an hour, you're burning money.

[BlessedLion]

I just bought Hot Seat At Home for around $300. So far it's insightful. I'm going to finish it. But as I watch a get a but of a creepy feeling. Like this is just social manipulation. Owen keeps yelling about how he can get into people's heads and do what he wants.

 

I wanted a legit course in authentic socialalizing. 

 

Also fuck The Natural Lifestyles, those guys are the lamest scam con artists around. They pose as chill enlightened guys but are total losers, especially James 

[Optimized Life]

20 minutes ago, BlessedLion said:

I wanted a legit course in authentic socialalizing. 

Just get experience and be observant, do you even need a course really? 

Socialize over and over and over again and watch peoples reactions to your actions, feel in to your body and your behaviors in different contexts, and watch and observe others. Watch random people walking down the street, interacting in various ways. Watch the confident sauve guy interact, watch the nerdy guys interact, notice everything, notice yourself. Notice how your fake, gradually remove the layers and become yourself, unwire and undo conditioning. 

Do stuff over and over. This is mostly a right brain process, a bit of both though. 

[Jacob Morres]

Found this video relevant. An ex rsd coach talking about some of the issues in the pickup

One being what Op mentioned, the quality of the products having gone down tremendously 

 

[Bando]

The only money I've ever spent on PUA stuff was on coaches that were already vetted by a local community. The best way to find a good coach is to go on pua forums/ telegrams, share your experiences, add value and eventually you get invited into smaller group chats. From there you can personally ask them for reputable coaches, (none of them be mainstream btw) or you can just go out consistently with your wings and force each other to approach many sets. 

Essentially the biggest bang for your buck in paying for a coach is that they force you to do massive amounts of approaches, you don't need to pay some dick head $2k+ for that. Local coaches who have years in the game charge a fraction of that price you just have to know where to look. 

[PenguinPablo]

On 4/18/2023 at 3:02 AM, StarStruck said:

People rant about Andrew Tate how he "scams" his followers. Brother sells courses 50 dollar a pop.

Compare that to RSD courses that start from 500 dollar and can range up to 8k per course for some filibuster advice from a mad man on an ego trip.

 

lol @ filibuster metaphor  

[universe]

Old thread. Locked.

[Leo Gura]

It's not that old.

[Javfly33]

I don't know how you guys fall for this guys. Precisely PUA stuff creators are clearly full of shit. I still remember when I did a call with one of the Natural Lifestyles coaches and when I asked the price I loled inside. 

 

 

[Javfly33]

@flowboy Thanks for sharing, that confirms my suspictions on how all this bootcamps really consist in.

[Javfly33]

On 18/4/2023 at 1:51 PM, something_else said:

I'm pretty sure that's the RSD tactic. Make you feel really insecure and bad about yourself and then present their course as the solution.

Tyler does this same thing on his YT channel.

You don't need these people to get better at dating.

Exactly. They actually feed on your karma and entangle you are even more. This people are straight up dangerous, precisely for their audience 

[MAHAVATAR_-_BABAJI]

Kama Sutra

 

[PenguinPablo]

16 hours ago, Javfly33 said:

Exactly. They actually feed on your karma and entangle you are even more. This people are straight up dangerous, precisely for their audience 

I mean its just the way marketing works... which is pretty evil and predatory. But if youre engaging in it, then obviously you don't know better because well you're too attached to what you're going to get / greed