Personal development made me self - absorbed

[NoSelfSelf]

@ivankiss You can submit to anothers will if you are weak, when dont know your worth.

Exactly if i am GOD then me putting a woman or following another man just sents a message to myself that i am not GOD.

Submitting to yourself is submitting to a will of GOD.

Tell me a situation where ill have to put myself aside?

[ivankiss]

3 hours ago, NoSelfSelf said:

You can submit to anothers will if you are weak, when dont know your worth.

I see where you're coming from, but it's not fully true. It does not necessarily indicate weakness. It can be done out of respect, wisdom and love. And that requires strength.

3 hours ago, NoSelfSelf said:

 

Exactly if i am GOD then me putting a woman or following another man just sents a message to myself that i am not GOD.

Submitting to yourself is submitting to a will of GOD.

 

When you truly wake up, it is perfectly clear that there is the will of God and that's what you're serving. Even though it's all One, or 'you'. It might seem like a duality, but it's really not. It's Oneness.

4 hours ago, NoSelfSelf said:

Tell me a situation where ill have to put myself aside?

You want to do one thing, your boss orders you to do another. You really wanna go somewhere and do something, but then nasty weather ruins your plans. You wanna have a blissful trip on LSD but things accidentally go sideways and you end up being thought a difficult lesson. 

Point is, you must know when to surrender. You cannot have absolute control of everything all the time. Even though you do. Lol.

 

[NoSelfSelf]

@ivankiss I love this topic of what strenght is and under one condition i see that as strenght, if you are capable of being on top and choose to submit(in this context of topic),but you havent specify what exactly you are submiting out of love why?

Yeah but you cant become fully awake if you follow other people and submitting to them...

There is only few exceptions you cant break the law and to keep your job, you have to do what they say.Outside of that you make the rules..

What you are saying is trying to control things outside of you im saying controling yourself(self absorbed)when you control yourself then you accept(surrender) that you cant control things outside of you so you dont care about it,thats the insight of being self absorbed someone who is not he will try to control things outside of himself,judge and care about thinking of others etc. Putting them above themselves and then looking to psychologicaly get things from them because of not putting yourself first you need to compensate for not working on yourself...

 

 

Edited May 5, 2023 by NoSelfSelf

[Razard86]

On 4/14/2023 at 8:50 AM, ivankiss said:

Ever feel this way?

It's been quite a few years now since I went down this rabbit hole, and it wasn't a walk in a park. There is just so much work to do...

I've been putting myself under a microscope for too long. Dissecting and studying myself, breaking and dissolving things, reverse engineering, etc...

My mind is constantly analysing itself in the background, trying to recognize certain patterns, alter or replace them... I over analyse my surroundings too. It can get quite exhausting.

I won't go into Self - realization here, since it's not the right sub, but combine that with personal development and there is really nothing but The Self left to be interested in.

You are building yourself up but also, simultaneously you're transcending yourself. It's a weird spot to be in. It's fun, scary and everything in between.

Anyways, my concern is, that my head is kind of too far up my own ass. I am so hyper focused on myself and my journey, that I can barely think of anything 'outside of myself' - if you will. It's tricky to talk about it, because, again, Self - realization, and there is nothing but the Self... but I think some of you get what I mean here. 

I don't want to turn into a narcissistic piece of shit lol.

1. You are already a narcissist. All egos are narcissists. Your fear of being one will turn you into one. Accept that you are a narcissist. You are a narcissist in a world of narcissists. Jesus was a narcissist, so was the Buddha. Stop creating dualities which is pure delusion. You are every identity that has ever existed which is why you are capable of expressing any of them. THIS is what you fear, you fear your darkness. OWN THAT SHIT! If you suppress your darkness it will seek expression subtly and you will unconsciously express it. You need to acknowledge that you are capable of being a selfish piece of shit and be okay with it. Does a Lion feel regret when he tears his prey apart? NO!! So why do you? Humans walk around pointing fingers at people for doing something and they do the same freaking thing.

I'll give you an example. Jesus said turn the other cheek right?  Matthew 21:12 "Jesus entered the temple courts and drove out all who were buying and selling there. He overturned the tables of the money changers and the benches of those selling doves."

Also notice Jesus was very direct and confrontational with his teachings. Matthew 23:27 "“Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For ye are like unto whited sepulchers, which indeed appear beautiful outwardly, but are within full of dead men’s bones and of all uncleanness."

Notice the churches either don't talk about this side Jesus had, or they justify it. But if YOU did what he did to THEM they would call you a monster!!! So notice the hypocrisy of people!! They can justify his behavior because they love Jesus, and he didn't do it to them!! But if you do it (and you are Jesus) they would demonize you!! See the stupidity? 

Do the best you can, be as kind as generous as you are capable. You can feel regret, BUT NEVER FEEL GUILTY EVER!! Don't let anyone ever convince you that you need to feel guilt. If someone is doing that remove yourself from their presence. That person is a self-righteous hypocrite. All self-righteousness is delusion, is corruption, and is the HEART of how religious people become demons!

[Water by the River]

On 5.5.2023 at 7:56 PM, Razard86 said:

Does a Lion feel regret when he tears his prey apart? NO!! So why do you?

Because it is not cool? Common decency?

Not to talk about compassion, ethics, (Karma if one is inclined to think in these dimensions), or not boosting ones ego to the stratosphere?