If you dream of taking psychedelics, what is happening to the brain in waking world?

[Richard Purdy]

If you take psychedelics in a dream, and you feel the effects in the dream, at the same time what is happening to your brain in the waking world?

Is it psychosomatic? Or is the brain actually using the same neural pathways to give the trip while sleeping as it would taking it in waking life?

This is a very trick question. Another night while dreaming I snorted cocaine and when I woke up I felt like I had a hangover. Not sure if that was just psychosomatic. 

 

 

Edited March 27, 2023 by Richard Purdy

[Arthogaan]

There is no waking world brain, when you are dreaming.

When you are dreaming all there is is what you are currently dreaming.

In waking world you imagine/dream such thing as brain.

[Leo Gura]

The entire WORLD is IMAGINARY.

[StarStruck]

25 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

The entire WORLD is IMAGINARY.

Now what? I still have to work tomorrow 

Edited March 27, 2023 by StarStruck

[Richard Purdy]

@Leo Gura Put that in simpler human words. I never understood what you mean when you say that.

[Leo Gura]

@Richard Purdy You imagine everything around yourself. In all directions.

That's what reality is.

Edited March 27, 2023 by Leo Gura

[Vibes]

11 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

@Richard Purdy You imagine everything around yourself. In all directions.

That's what reality is.

God damn, I have a serious problem trusting myself. 

I forget awakenings and remember again when you talk about it.

I remember witnessing how I imagine the world around me, how I created my neighbor in an instant, how I invent an outside in "real time". How I fool myself into believing I am a body. How I am infinitely intimate to everyone. And how I can't hide anything.

Edited March 27, 2023 by Vibes

[Richard Purdy]

@Leo GuraOhhhhhhhhhhh. Shit.

Edited March 28, 2023 by Richard Purdy

[bmcnicho]

@Richard Purdy  I’ve only had two psychedelic dreams so far.  Both times, the dreams were very different from any actual substances I’ve tried.  So neurologically, it was probably the normal dream pathways essentially emulating psychedelic-like effects.  I’m guessing that’s more likely, although I don’t know if this has ever been studied.

However, if your dreams have been very similar to the real thing, then it is possible that psychedelic pathways could be triggered during sleep.  Repeated use of psychedelics is thought to reinforce certain pathways, leaving them open to being activated in other ways.  That’s also a possible explanation for how marijuana can become psychedelic for some people, despite binding to different receptors

[funcool]

@Leo Gura how does the process of imagination occur? Does it occur in time or is it instantaneous? Is there such a thing as not imagining, and i don't mean imagining "not imagining". I mean actual cessation of imagining in principle. Or is the imagining you are describing always occurring effortlessly?

Edited March 28, 2023 by funcool

[Jowblob]

21 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

@Richard Purdy You imagine everything around yourself. In all directions.

That's what reality is.

Correction, god constructs dreams for itself. When you say they're imagining reality in their own dream that is false and is a lower form of awakening.

[funcool]

@Jowblob bruv im tryna reach higher highs higher than you'll ever be