Asian Americans who are fed up with city's crime are shifting to the right

[Oppositionless]

 

lol. maybe if it wasn’t so damn easy to get a gun there wouldn’t be as mucn violent crime.

[Tanz]

On 18/04/2023 at 8:12 PM, Oppositionless said:

lol. maybe if it wasn’t so damn easy to get a gun there wouldn’t be as mucn violent crime.

Dont worry; humans have a wonderful imagination. If there weren't guns, they would use other means.  In fact guns are not very effective compared to other things someone can make or create if they wanted to hurt lots of people.  The human intellect and imagination is the most dangerous tool

[Schizophonia]

On 18/04/2023 at 2:12 PM, Oppositionless said:

 

lol. maybe if it wasn’t so damn easy to get a gun there wouldn’t be as mucn violent crime.

There are other countries with so many guns per population and there are no such problems.
I'm in France and I can have an akm in the next few weeks if I want, it's not a legal problem.

[Israfil]

On 18/04/2023 at 9:12 AM, Oppositionless said:

lol. maybe if it wasn’t so damn easy to get a gun there wouldn’t be as mucn violent crime.

In most countries where guns are banned, you can cheaply and quickly get one. If you're a criminal, by definition, you don't care about laws, including the ones that outlaw weapons. 

[BlueOak]

18 hours ago, Israfil said:

In most countries where guns are banned, you can cheaply and quickly get one. If you're a criminal, by definition, you don't care about laws, including the ones that outlaw weapons. 

Do you have any data on this?

[Israfil]

14 minutes ago, BlueOak said:

Do you have any data on this?

"According to the Small Arms Survey, globally there were approximately 857 million firearms in the hands of civilians in 2017. Of this total, only 12 per cent were reported as registered. In Latin America, one of the most violent regions in the world, the increased availability of firearms – particularly of assault weapons that began to flow south after the US federal assault weapons ban expired in 2004 – has been linked to an increase in homicides.

Conflict zones attract stocks of weapons, and firearms from previous civil wars and armed conflicts continue to circulate in these areas due to their long life cycles. Many of these find their way into the hands of criminals who use them to inflict violence both domestically and abroad. Firearms enable criminal groups to fight for dominance, deter state actors and threaten communities into submission, to request extortion payments, carry out robberies and hijackings, engage in poaching activities and partake in a myriad of other crimes.

The GI-TOC’s Global Organized Crime Index 2021 ranks arms trafficking as the third most prevalent criminal market globally, and is particularly rife in Africa, the Americas and Asia. By enabling organized crime and criminal markets more generally, the illegal arms trade represents a serious threat to community resilience and democracy. According to the Index, arms trafficking is linked to human trafficking and smuggling, as well as to the illicit trade of non-renewable resources. Violent crime in Latin America and Africa, and drug trafficking in Europe have also been heavily linked to the presence of illicit arms markets."

https://globalinitiative.net/analysis/arms-trafficking-and-organized-crime/

Just look for "arm trafficking" on Google. That's the first result. You rent a handgun for 50 USD a day in Brazil. Maybe buy one for less than 400 USD. Criminals by definition don't give a fuck about laws. If someone puts a gun in your head and asks for your phone, will you lecture him about the gun policy in your state? The only thing that stops a bad person with a gun is a good person with a gun.

[Danioover9000]

@Israfil

8 minutes ago, Israfil said:

"According to the Small Arms Survey, globally there were approximately 857 million firearms in the hands of civilians in 2017. Of this total, only 12 per cent were reported as registered. In Latin America, one of the most violent regions in the world, the increased availability of firearms – particularly of assault weapons that began to flow south after the US federal assault weapons ban expired in 2004 – has been linked to an increase in homicides.

Conflict zones attract stocks of weapons, and firearms from previous civil wars and armed conflicts continue to circulate in these areas due to their long life cycles. Many of these find their way into the hands of criminals who use them to inflict violence both domestically and abroad. Firearms enable criminal groups to fight for dominance, deter state actors and threaten communities into submission, to request extortion payments, carry out robberies and hijackings, engage in poaching activities and partake in a myriad of other crimes.

The GI-TOC’s Global Organized Crime Index 2021 ranks arms trafficking as the third most prevalent criminal market globally, and is particularly rife in Africa, the Americas and Asia. By enabling organized crime and criminal markets more generally, the illegal arms trade represents a serious threat to community resilience and democracy. According to the Index, arms trafficking is linked to human trafficking and smuggling, as well as to the illicit trade of non-renewable resources. Violent crime in Latin America and Africa, and drug trafficking in Europe have also been heavily linked to the presence of illicit arms markets."

https://globalinitiative.net/analysis/arms-trafficking-and-organized-crime/

Just look for "arm trafficking" on Google. That's the first result. You rent a handgun for 50 USD a day in Brazil. Maybe buy one for less than 400 USD. Criminals by definition don't give a fuck about laws. If someone puts a gun in your head and asks for your phone, will you lecture him about the gun policy in your state? The only thing that stops a bad person with a gun is a good person with a gun.

   I agree with this. It's not the fault of the gun or gun policies, but the person using the gun.

[Israfil]

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/gun-deaths-by-country

"Gun violence in Latin America is exceptionally high, due in no small part to the prevalence of criminal gangs and a vibrant drug trafficking industry. The Inter-American Development Bank released a report highlighting several critical factors in Latin American cities that contribute to increased gun violence, including economic deprivation, residential instability, family disruption, absence from school, the population’s age structure, and alcohol consumption.

Gangs are much less of an issue in the United States, yet it is second only to Brazil on the list in total gun deaths. Many people understandably assume the high number of gun deaths in the U.S. is due to mass shootings, which receive frequent attention from the media. In truth, mass shootings account for only a small percentage of gun deaths in the United States. Rather, nearly two-thirds (63%) of gun deaths in the US in 2019 were suicides."

Rio de Janeiro, for example, has corrupt police, that coerces citizens from many places to pay safety fees, which protects the citizens from the police themselves and overcharging these same people for internet, gas and electric fees. On the other side, huge gangs heavily involved in drug trafficking also violently control every slum competing against each other and creating one of the most violent war on drugs in the world. And Rio de Janeiro is the 9th safest capital in the country. You have no idea what violence really is.

I can understand the reaction of the Asian people in San Francisco. This happens all the time here. People have a thorough contempt for thieves, gang members, and corrupt cops from the browbeating militias. It is completely understandable to do so when you're paid a 220 USD minimum wage and some 15-year-old with a gun steals your 12-month-financed phone which you have no means to replace. And they do it for adrenalin and to smoke weed. Most of them get government assistance and can probably work a minimum-wage job too. All these problems are interlocked. Corruption and violence are bad for the economy, and a poor economy increases wage disparities and general inequality, and this increases violence and corruption. I am extremely privileged to have had the opportunity to develop the education and critical thinking I've had. There are people here that got dealt a way shitier hand.

[Danioover9000]

@Israfil

38 minutes ago, Israfil said:

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/gun-deaths-by-country

"Gun violence in Latin America is exceptionally high, due in no small part to the prevalence of criminal gangs and a vibrant drug trafficking industry. The Inter-American Development Bank released a report highlighting several critical factors in Latin American cities that contribute to increased gun violence, including economic deprivation, residential instability, family disruption, absence from school, the population’s age structure, and alcohol consumption.

Gangs are much less of an issue in the United States, yet it is second only to Brazil on the list in total gun deaths. Many people understandably assume the high number of gun deaths in the U.S. is due to mass shootings, which receive frequent attention from the media. In truth, mass shootings account for only a small percentage of gun deaths in the United States. Rather, nearly two-thirds (63%) of gun deaths in the US in 2019 were suicides."

Rio de Janeiro, for example, has corrupt police, that coerces citizens from many places to pay safety fees, which protects the citizens from the police themselves and overcharging these same people for internet, gas and electric fees. On the other side, huge gangs heavily involved in drug trafficking also violently control every slum competing against each other and creating one of the most violent war on drugs in the world. And Rio de Janeiro is the 9th safest capital in the country. You have no idea what violence really is.

I can understand the reaction of the Asian people in San Francisco. This happens all the time here. People have a thorough contempt for thieves, gang members, and corrupt cops from the browbeating militias. It is completely understandable to do so when you're paid a 220 USD minimum wage and some 15-year-old with a gun steals your 12-month-financed phone which you have no means to replace. And they do it for adrenalin and to smoke weed. Most of them get government assistance and can probably work a minimum-wage job too. All these problems are interlocked. Corruption and violence are bad for the economy, and a poor economy increases wage disparities and general inequality, and this increases violence and corruption. I am extremely privileged to have had the opportunity to develop the education and critical thinking I've had. There are people here that got dealt a way shitier hand.

   This is basically stage red, blue, and orange value limits and issues being expressed. Even if you regulate more or ban firearms they'll still find ways to weaponize other objects. The UK has very strict gun control laws, most cases it's illegal, but the criminal gangs here and other criminals opt for knives, machetes, the occasional nun Chucks, axes, hammers, you name it. Depending on the threat level on average police here are lightly armed, I don't think they're carrying any hidden firearms, just a baton that's shitty in design, a tear gas that just pisses off people, and maybe BJJ training that's mostly useless in street life and death combats with multiple assailants with weapons.   

[Israfil]

1 hour ago, Danioover9000 said:

Even if you regulate more or ban firearms they'll still find ways to weaponize other objects.

The state and federal police control arms trafficking. They sell weapons to gangs — the same shit with drugs. The institutions are stage orange, commanding police corruption, and heavy drug and arms trafficking. The gangs are absolutely stuck in stage red competition with each other, killing each other left and right, which triggers regular police intervention and absolute mayhem for people living in slums. The middle and upper class enjoy every good aspect of the city and there are people living in absolute hell, the bizarre thing is that they are side by side plenty of time. You get the image below, where the largest slum in America Latina is 2 minutes away from 2 million USD by the beach penthouses

 

[Yimpa]

On 4/19/2023 at 1:16 PM, Tanz said:

Dont worry; humans have a wonderful imagination.

Wonderfully limited imagination.