Asian Americans who are fed up with city's crime are shifting to the right

[Epikur]

https://edition.cnn.com/videos/politics/2023/03/23/asian-voters-san-francisco-crime-push-right-lah-dnt-ebof-vpx.cnn
 

 

[Danioover9000]

@Epikur

1 hour ago, Epikur said:

https://edition.cnn.com/videos/politics/2023/03/23/asian-voters-san-francisco-crime-push-right-lah-dnt-ebof-vpx.cnn
 

 

   Yeah, it's a growing issue now, chances are that if this issue doesn't correct, a Republican or conservative will win the next election or the one after that.

[Epikur]

39 minutes ago, Danioover9000 said:

@Epikur

   Yeah, it's a growing issue now, chances are that if this issue doesn't correct, a Republican or conservative will win the next election or the one after that.

The most shocking thing here is that CNN reported on it. Of course normal people have no chance to find it but still.

[hoodrow trillson]

They think Republicans are the answer?  LMAO..

[lapis]

49 minutes ago, hoodrow trillson said:

They think Republicans are the answer?  LMAO..

They're simply better at keeping streets safe.

[Hardkill]

2 hours ago, hoodrow trillson said:

They think Republicans are the answer?  LMAO..

Ever since Nixon and the Republicans in the late 60s officially declared the Republican Party as the “Party of Law and Order,” most Americans  have mistakenly believed that the GOP does a better job of keeping the peace and order in our country. 

Reagan, H.W. Bush, and the GOP of course emphasized the notion of the Republican Party as the “Party of Law and Order” even more so further during the 80s. 

Clinton and the Dems in the 90s then tried to portray themselves as the Party of anti-crime in order to both compete with the Republicans and to really get a handle on the terribly high amount of the crime that occurred throughout many parts of America. Also, when Fox News and other big right wing media outlets emerged in the 90s, the right wing media was able to effectively promote the notion of the GOP being the party that backs the Blue and the military even more so than the Democrats do, despite the fact that that was a lie. 

Then, when W. Bush came into power and 9/11 happened during the early 90s,  that probably further reinforced the notion that the Republicans are Party of Law and Order and strongest supporters of the military and the police. 

When Obama was president, I think he tried his best to get the majority Americans to believe that the Democratic Party enforce the law better than the GOP, but unfortunately I don’t think most Americans believed that. Probably because the growing influence of Fox News, Talk Radio, Rush Limbaugh, Alex Jones, and the emergence of many other new alt-right media outlets out there, further promulgated the lie that the Democrats have been causing disorder, destroying the moral fabric of society, trying to destroy Christianity and religion in America, trying to replace American capitalism/free markets with Communism/Socialism, have been conducting prostitution rings, molesting, children, promoting globalism instead American people first, imposing other crazy and dangerous radical left ideas in our society, etc., etc.

Trump of course amplified those lies to such an extreme degree to the point of having brainwashed at least a third of Americans into believe these maddening right wing conspiracies and lies.

The far-right wing has terribly misled most Americans who have been too dumb and too backwards to realize the truth.

Edited March 26, 2023 by Hardkill

[Hardkill]

4 hours ago, lapis said:

They're simply better at keeping streets safe.

How so?

please enlighten us as to how the Repubs keep the streets more safe than Dems do?

Also, why during Trump’s last year as president was there such widespread  social unrest throughout the whole country at a level that never happened before since the late 60s?

There wasn’t nearly as much social unrest in America during Carter’s presidency (1977-1981) or during the Clinton era in the 90s or during Obama’s presidency.

Also, Democratic Chicago Mayor Daley back in his days was well known for keeping the order very well in his city. 

Current Democratic NYC Mayor Eric Adams has been presiding over a significant decline in overall crime in his city ever since he took office. He also is a former police officer.

Actually, contrary to the notion that there’s been more crime in Democratic run areas than in Republican run areas of the country, there’s actually been much more crime in red areas than in blue areas of the country overall. There have been a lot more fatal shootings and other kinds of murders in red states such as Texas, Florida, Iowa, Tennessee, Wyoming, Oklahoma, and Idaho than in blue states such as California, New York, Illinois, Oregon, New Jersey, and Michigan.

Edited March 27, 2023 by Hardkill

[Tanz]

@hoodrow trillson well republicans are less compassionate and support tougher laws that punish criminals. 

If you get your ass beat and your belongings taken from you it's easier to understand why someone would begin to lean right. 

Clearly the solution is a lot more complex and will take a lot of work but the reality is people don't have the patients nor the time

[Hardkill]

2 hours ago, Tanz said:

@hoodrow trillson well republicans are less compassionate and support tougher laws that punish criminals. 

If you get your ass beat and your belongings taken from you it's easier to understand why someone would begin to lean right. 

Clearly the solution is a lot more complex and will take a lot of work but the reality is people don't have the patients nor the time

And yet the Republican’s policies for enforcing law and order almost always don’t work for reducing recidivism or crime.

[Tanz]

@Hardkill That might be true, but the places where the most Asians are democratically-run states.  I'm not trying to make a point about which side is better; I'm just making a point about how people feel when they are victims.  My Asian friends in California and New York at least know of another Asian person getting mugged.  

There was an incredibly sad story about a Chinese couple driving on the highway in California, and two cars were shooting at each other.  A bullet flies into a car and kills their baby.  The crime wasn't directed toward Asians, but it reflects the state of California.  The worst part of all this is they are thinking of giving a lesser punishment to the killers.  

https://www.pleasantonweekly.com/news/2022/12/18/da-charges-3-in-death-of-fremont-toddler-shot-in-head-on-freeway-last-year

It's fair to say the government as a whole is failing the country, and as things get worse economically, it will only get worse.  

[Danioover9000]

@Epikur

On 3/26/2023 at 5:30 PM, Epikur said:

The most shocking thing here is that CNN reported on it. Of course normal people have no chance to find it but still.

   That's expected for CCN to cover this, as many other news outlets are as well. Most normal people are conservative anyways, so chances are that there might be a conservative win this election or the next term, provided Biden doesn't screw up.

[Epikur]

13 minutes ago, Danioover9000 said:

@Epikur

   That's expected for CCN to cover this, as many other news outlets are as well. Most normal people are conservative anyways, so chances are that there might be a conservative win this election or the next term, provided Biden doesn't screw up.

No it is not. That is why it is almost not possible to find it.

[Hardkill]

13 hours ago, Tanz said:

@Hardkill That might be true, but the places where the most Asians are democratically-run states.  I'm not trying to make a point about which side is better; I'm just making a point about how people feel when they are victims.  My Asian friends in California and New York at least know of another Asian person getting mugged.  

There was an incredibly sad story about a Chinese couple driving on the highway in California, and two cars were shooting at each other.  A bullet flies into a car and kills their baby.  The crime wasn't directed toward Asians, but it reflects the state of California.  The worst part of all this is they are thinking of giving a lesser punishment to the killers.  

https://www.pleasantonweekly.com/news/2022/12/18/da-charges-3-in-death-of-fremont-toddler-shot-in-head-on-freeway-last-year

It's fair to say the government as a whole is failing the country, and as things get worse economically, it will only get worse.  

That is really tragic.

Well, it’s not just the growing economic inequality that’s contributing to crime. It’s also because of the systemic racism that still occurs in our country.

I also do believe that the government really needs to figure out why the law enforcement isn’t doing a better job of stopping the spikes in violent crime over these past few years. 

[Danioover9000]

@Epikur

4 hours ago, Epikur said:

No it is not. That is why it is almost not possible to find it.

   What do you mean? I think other news outlets, even CNN do cover the story no?

[Epikur]

5 hours ago, Danioover9000 said:

@Epikur

   What do you mean? I think other news outlets, even CNN do cover the story no?

They cover it sometimes but then they hide it. Try to find that story youtube on the CNN channel. I guess they  do the plausible deniality thing. Hey we covered it but it is impossible to find.

Edited March 28, 2023 by Epikur

[Epikur]

8 hours ago, Danioover9000 said:

@Epikur

   What do you mean? I think other news outlets, even CNN do cover the story no?

Btw this is CNN. Seems their fan numbers are going down. Even lefties can not defend them anymore.

 

[Danioover9000]

@Epikur

9 hours ago, Epikur said:

Btw this is CNN. Seems their fan numbers are going down. Even lefties can not defend them anymore.

 

   You can use all the TYT points in that video and flip that logic back at them. So, it's not okay for a centrist/moderate mostly CNN to cover the digital blackface, or engage in political, ideological and narrative warfare, participate in disinformation and misinformation campaigns, but it's okay when TYT news, a most socialist/progressive anti mainstream alt news outlet uses fear based bad faith tactics like CNN?

[Danioover9000]

@Epikur

9 hours ago, Epikur said:

Btw this is CNN. Seems their fan numbers are going down. Even lefties can not defend them anymore.

 

   Oh, also fuck TYT, don't share me their regressive progressive talking points. It's pointless garbage, and ironically as derisive as other news. 

[Epikur]

4 minutes ago, Danioover9000 said:

@Epikur

   You can use all the TYT points in that video and flip that logic back at them. So, it's not okay for a centrist/moderate mostly CNN to cover the digital blackface, or engage in political, ideological and narrative warfare, participate in disinformation and misinformation campaigns, but it's okay when TYT news, a most socialist/progressive anti mainstream alt news outlet uses fear based bad faith tactics like CNN?

It is not about TYT. I could have used any progressive channel like Vaush etc.

Almost all progressives share their view on this Vaush etc.  CNN is actually hurting their cause because they make progressives look crazy. Thus helping actually the conservatives.

[Danioover9000]

@Epikur

3 hours ago, Epikur said:

It is not about TYT. I could have used any progressive channel like Vaush etc.

Almost all progressives share their view on this Vaush etc.  CNN is actually hurting their cause because they make progressives look crazy. Thus helping actually the conservatives.

   So you believe that all progressives believe that all conservatives are Fascists and Nazi?