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[Leo Gura]

@Water by the River You do NOT understand what GOD is.

You are selling crap by the outhouse.

How dare you rascals come here and peddle your spiritual BS as if you understand.

Edited April 2, 2023 by Leo Gura

[Harikrishnan]

40 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

@Water by the River You do NOT understand what GOD is.

You are selling crap by the outhouse.

How dare you rascals come here and peddle your spiritual BS as if you understand.

@Leo Gura I have experienced God on psychedelics. I dont know how to really articulate it. But let me ask, when now in sober state sometimes I feel and be the whole field, there are moments like that,  Iamness expands outside my body to full field, there is no boundary. To me its God state. I also have glimpses of no others being there. When I think of past, I have this sudden recognition that, now am imagining it.

Is this God realisation happening without psychedelics? ( I know it is, but wanted to make sure)

Also when you say, you know how you created entire strands of hair in your hand, are you saying like You witnessed your will creating it or are you saying you imagined it( like when I say world war 2 is my imagination) 

 

 

 

[Leo Gura]

3 minutes ago, Harikrishnan said:

@Leo Gura 

Is this God realisation happening without psychedelics? ( I know it is, but wanted to make sure)

 A very weak form of it. Let's say 1%.

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Also when you say, you know how you created entire strands of hair in your hand, are you saying like You witnessed your will creating it

Yes. Every hair on my body is my Will.

Edited April 2, 2023 by Leo Gura

[Water by the River]

 

On 1.4.2023 at 0:01 AM, Moksha said:

The absolute within everything is infinite, but the forms that it creates are transient. There is nothing in the cosmos without a beginning or an end. Only the absolute that imagined it is timeless.

I write it more precise than my last statement above, which depends more on its context and interpretation: I agree to what Moksha wrote in the quote above.

Selling Water by the River

 

[Water by the River]

2 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

@Water by the River You do NOT understand what GOD is.

You are selling crap by the outhouse.

How dare you rascals come here and peddle your spiritual BS as if you understand.

 

I hope nobody is disappointed if I don't do the bear-maneuver:

 

 

And as always:

Namaste! Namaste is a synonym of Selling water by the river.

 

 

Respectfully yours

Water by the River

[The0Self]

The awakened sees what the totality of everything sees.

Ingenious thread btw 

[Water by the River]

13 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

The absolute is endless change, flow, movement. It's like a infinite river. The thing is to dive deeper in that river. 

What is aware of that Absolute that is change, flow, movement, and the "infinite river"?

Where is that Absolute that is change, flow  and movement and like an infinite river in Deep Sleep or Nirvikalpha Samadhi?

 

Selling Water by the River

Edited April 2, 2023 by Water by the River

[AndylizedAAY]

@Leo GuraWhy do you answer people's questions if it avoids contemplation? I see how important it is but how do your words help them do that or anything else (doesn't necessarily have to practical)?

[Breakingthewall]

10 minutes ago, Water by the River said:

What is aware of that Absolute that is change, flow, movement, and the "infinite river"?

Where is that Absolute that is change, flow  and movement and like an infinite river in Deep Sleep or Nirvikalpha Samadhi?

 

Selling Water by the River

What is aware is just me, the absolute. It's obvious, but the thing is to dive deeper, understand the beauty. 

Edited April 2, 2023 by Breakingthewall

[Water by the River]

>What is aware is just me, the absolute. It's obvious, but the thing is to dive deeper, understand the beauty. 

Where is that Absolute that is change, flow  and movement and like an infinite river in Deep Sleep or Nirvikalpha Samadhi?

Water by the River

Edited April 2, 2023 by Water by the River

[Breakingthewall]

4 minutes ago, Water by the River said:

Where is that Absolute that is change, flow  and movement and like an infinite river in Deep Sleep or Nirvikalpha Samadhi?

Water by the River

Everything is in your mind, nothing else exist. It's quite simple. You are the absolute. 

[AndylizedAAY]

@Leo GuraSo profound!

[Moksha]

12 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

How dare you rascals come here and peddle your spiritual BS as if you understand.

I understand only what I am not. The human mind is not the enemy. It is brilliant, with the remarkable capacity of metacognition. The only question that matters is, "Who am I?". If sincere, the mind will neti neti its way to the edge of mystery. On the day I received my Ph.D., I realized that the true lesson of all those years of research was how little I actually knew. I have never forgotten that lesson, and have continued along its path to arrive at the same conclusion as Socrates. I know that I know nothing.

That admission is the pinnacle achievement of the mind. Don't underestimate the dissolving power of knowledge finally realizing its own limitations. The mind cannot go beyond, but it humbly steps aside and gestures toward the doorway leading within.

Stepping through is shedding the cloak of the self, and wordlessly merging with the mystery that is beyond. Call it spiritual BS if you want, but if you see it as such it is only because you have not stepped through the doorway yet. ?

[Breakingthewall]

10 minutes ago, Moksha said:

Stepping through is shedding the cloak of the self, and wordlessly merging with the mystery that is beyond.

For me the mystery is this, what is beyond is the infinity, and it's very obvious, the real thing. But this appearance of multiplicity is the true mystery.  

realizing the absolute infinity is something wonderful, liberating, awakening. but what is the mechanics of this? why this appearance? this mirage? I can't say same as Socrates, because I know something. I know that reality is absolute infinity, and that's what I am. but I don't understand how it works. and it can be understood. my intelligence is infinite, it just needs to be released

Edited April 2, 2023 by Breakingthewall

[Moksha]

7 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

realizing the absolute infinity is something wonderful, liberating, awakening. but what is the mechanics of this? why this appearance? this mirage? I can't say same as Socrates, because I know something. I know that reality is absolute infinity, and that's what I am. but I don't understand how it works. and it can be understood. my intelligence is infinite, it just needs to be released

The mystery is directly realized, but is not understood. There are no words to describe it. I can write pointing words like light, love, seamless, formless, and depthless but all fall short of capturing its essence. It is the absolute within and beyond every form, but it cannot be comprehended, only realized. This realization requires absolute surrender.

Stepping through the doorway is easier when the mind has come to terms with its incapacity to comprehend the mystery. The self must become small enough to fit through the eye of the needle. As long as the mind insists on asking questions like how, why, when, where, and what it will be far too bloated in its self-importance to allow passage. The only question that opens the door is the unconditional willingness to ask what you actually are, leaving all other questions behind and silently stepping through to realize it.

[Leo Gura]

8 hours ago, AndylizedAAY said:

@Leo GuraWhy do you answer people's questions if it avoids contemplation?

Because I'm a fool.

4 hours ago, Moksha said:

I understand only what I am not. The human mind is not the enemy. It is brilliant, with the remarkable capacity of metacognition. The only question that matters is, "Who am I?". If sincere, the mind will neti neti its way to the edge of mystery. On the day I received my Ph.D., I realized that the true lesson of all those years of research was how little I actually knew. I have never forgotten that lesson, and have continued along its path to arrive at the same conclusion as Socrates. I know that I know nothing.

That admission is the pinnacle achievement of the mind. Don't underestimate the dissolving power of knowledge finally realizing its own limitations. The mind cannot go beyond, but it humbly steps aside and gestures toward the doorway leading within.

Stepping through is shedding the cloak of the self, and wordlessly merging with the mystery that is beyond. Call it spiritual BS if you want, but if you see it as such it is

Colorful games.

Go deeper.

4 hours ago, Moksha said:

only because you have not stepped through the doorway yet. ?

What stunning arrogance.

I am the only one on this planet who knows what the gateway is.

[The0Self]

39 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

What stunning arrogance.

I am the only one on this planet who knows what the gateway is.

While this thread is a perfect way to clean this place up… those 2 sentences right next to each other is almost a bit too on the nose or something ? 

[Yimpa]

3 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

I am the only one on this planet who knows what the gateway is.

Nice try, bud. Some of us are catching up to you 

[Leo Gura]

20 minutes ago, Yimpa said:

Nice try, bud. Some of us are catching up to you 

Not if you keep being so arrogant.

I don't mean you. I mean others here.

[Water by the River]

Job Opening: Empty Mirror (female, male, diverse, alien,…, infinitely flexible!) on Imagined Planet Earth

Job Description:

• Growing in the context of Planet Earth from business-/lifecycle to business-/lifecycle.
• Polishing the frame and surface of your neither existing nor non-existing Empty Mirror Nature and getting rid of your imagined/appearing frame, although there EX-ists no Empty Mirror and no frame.
• Experiencing various reactions concerning the Empty Mirror and its frame, like ranging from burning at the stake, nailing to a cross, any other funny way to get rid of your current frame, like being declared heretic and banned from the tribe into the desert to die a lonely Empty Mirror death, to being venerated and founding world religions. And anything in between. It never really gets boring, at least not for a long time!
• You can imagine your job as beig something like this Empty Mirror:

Disclaimer: Neither the Empty Mirror got hurt making this video (only its frame). Also, no imaginary bear really suffered from the Empty Mirror Nature of “others” in its Empty Mirror Nature, it only appeared that the imagined bear frame got a bit confused and agitated.

Job Responsibilities:

• Staying in your Empty Mirror Nature.
• Trying to not confuse the image in the mirror, or its not-so-empty frame, with the Empty Mirror itself.
• Sometimes not refusing to tell other Empty Mirrors that maybe not only the reflections in their Empty Mirror are imagined, but also that their whole frame of “their” empty mirror is imagined. Sometimes it may even be wise to highlight that maybe possibly the frame of the Empty Mirror is not fully gone. Or unwise, see the little confusion-incident happening in the video above.
• Looking in your Empty Mirror Nature and knowing “It” is still there, and you being it/having ever been it/ever will be it, while being told by a “fellow” Empty Mirror with a maybe still not fully gone frame that there is no Empty Unchanging Eternal Mirror, and that all there is the changing flow of reflection in the Mirror with a frame. Then, looking deeply into the Empty Mirror, and being very relieved the still being there/never not having been there/always will be there-ness of the Empty Mirror of your True Being.
• Smiling and staying loving when encountering imagined bears.

Education and Experience Required:

• A long and proven (not too successful) track record of suffering and being discontent over many many empty-mirror-lifetimes trying many many different frames.
• Having tried all possible designs of Empty Mirror frame fashions, and found them all lacking in the end, but fun to try.
• Having been told in the story  of the Platform Sutra with Shenxiu and Huineng  that there is no mirror to polish, understanding that, and yet continuing to polish the mirror.
• Having wondered how one could have been so stupid in not seeing the forest for the trees, or the Empty Mirror for its reflections and frame.
• Honestly having had the experience of being humbled about your the stupidity of ones own mirror-frame on the path to admitting that you have an Empty-Mirror with no frame is also very helpful.

Knowledge and Skills:

• Having gained enough experience in loving all empty mirror frames as imagined reflections.
• Having gotten proficient in hearing the Sound of the One Hand can also be beneficial. And if you are into it, having seen your face before your parents were born.

Benefits and Compensation:

• Compensation Package: Getting to experience the infinite bliss of your true empty mirror nature 24/7, directly being wired from the Big Boss, Reality itself.
• Insurance Package: Even if you get confused and rack up Karma on your frame, rest assured that the Trust Fund of your True Nature will always bail you out. Its true potential will burn any amount of Karma that you like to paint your frame or mirror with. The processing time for the withdrawal from your Trust Fund can take quite some time, but rest assured that in the end it will always be delivered.
• Having lifelong fun in appearing to still have a frame while just having just a big maintenance-free Infinite Empty Mirror.

About Planet Earth:

• We are a wonderful little place at the edge of the galaxy.
• We don’t know why there are no signals from our fellow employer-competition (Fermi-Paradoxon). We hope they uploaded themselves to some subtle realm in the Multiverse during their evolution from physical to higher realms, but we are not sure if some jealous AI got them and decided that it didn’t like their mirror-frames. Actually, you can join our enterprise right in the interesting time while we try out if our newly bred pet-AIs are fond of  our mirror-frames. But don’t worry, recheck your Insurance Package above. In Reality, nothing can go wrong. It can only appear to do so.

All in all, a wonderful imagined journey in your new work-environment in very interesting times, that can end with the frame of your Empty Mirror singing along the Black Eyed Peas in your new work-place, the playing of which is officially allowed in our office environment. Your fellow Empty Mirrors will not be disturbed and will happily sing along…..

 

 

Respectfully and lovingly yours  

Selling Water by the River