Important! - Nobody On This Forum Is AWAKE

[CARDOZZO]

@Leo Gura

Are you accessing Alien Consciousness everyday? 

 

[Leo Gura]

7 minutes ago, CARDOZZO said:

@Leo Gura

Are you accessing Alien Consciousness everyday? 

No

[Yimpa]

Alien Consciousness > Leo Gura

[CARDOZZO]

@Yimpa

What about Infinity of Alien Consciousness?

Extremely different degrees and qualities of Alien Consciousness.

We can go forever into this... and all and all.

Consciousness is insane.

[Moksha]

3 hours ago, BlueOak said:

We take on a role and do it, depending on the rules that have been set to follow. Then we take off the role.

Do you feel it is possible to perform a role well (Boss, Bus Driver, Friend) without identifying with it? What if no matter what activities you are doing, rather than losing yourself in the experience, you remain centered in your absolute nature? Can lucidity enhance the quality of what you do, by allowing the expression of freedom, creativity, and intelligence through your form?

[BlessedLion]

16 hours ago, Squeekytoy said:

Huh what's that... 

This last year I've spent 60 days (cumulative) in silent meditation, and 9 weeks practicing Hatha Kundalini and Pranayama for 6-8 hours a day. Any time off is spent in solitude in nature or if I'm being social it's a test to see how conscious and loving i can stay through it. This has catipulted my baseline consciousness and connection to reality. Plus my mind is basically silent. I'm able to see how I effect the things around me and live in a more conscious way thinking of others above me. 

To me this is true spiritual work. When you don't hinge on psychedelics and videos, you create and strengthen your connection to reality deeply because all you have to depend on is your own grit will and grace from God

[BlueOak]

9 hours ago, Moksha said:

Do you feel it is possible to perform a role well (Boss, Bus Driver, Friend) without identifying with it? What if no matter what activities you are doing, rather than losing yourself in the experience, you remain centered in your absolute nature? Can lucidity enhance the quality of what you do, by allowing the expression of freedom, creativity, and intelligence through your form?

Generally speaking without identity there isn't the same investment in something. You can't for example take on the identity of a harder worker, or someone who is flexible, supports others, and thus looks good to an employer. This identity gets you a promotion, more money, more respect from the staff or at least the management.

Stacking shelves. No. This made me laugh a bit when I first read the post. If you don't comply to strict rules and regulations working in a grocery store, you are out. The companies all actively want you to promote them as part of your identity. Different bosses have different tolerances but the rules of the company are still paramount. There is a constant want to leave inside of myself in these types of routine jobs, this usually starts within the first three months.

Creating a series of books. I can get deeper into them using the identity of a writer, but yes you probably could without. There is more freedom and creativity there. Using identity I can immerse myself more fully in the role. I can put myself in the space using writing music, listening to lectures from writers, old connections for publishing, make new connections more easily. I'd introduce myself as a writer, market myself as a writer to an audience, go on podcasts as a writer etc. This would build the brand as an identity. - You can copy-paste this last part for all self-employed identities.

As a student, it does depend on the teacher or program. There is more freedom there for creativity, but the rules for a student still exist. It helps to take on a certain amount of identity to socialise with the other students, become part of the programs at university, get your homework on time, take it seriously, work hard, and make that hard work part of the identity.

For a Bus Driver I was meaning as a passenger. So i'll use that example. As a passenger I have to pay, respect where others sit, respect the rules of the company, and comply with the Bus Drivers' directives. It's a very temporary role and identity I take on for the journey, but its there.

When communicating from a position as an employer, it would help to tell people what I am. Then build those things into the identity I have when working with them, and try and uphold those qualities as best I am able.

These are conscious identities that benefit the role. For more frivolous identities. I have for example an identity of being contrary to authority, and I keep it because it makes me feel good. It gives me something to do in the daytime. I can at any time, engage in a video/discussion/film/activity about challenging labels, the government, a fantasy authority, a political identity in power, a boss, laws/rules, or a religious authority etc and feel good. Because this is about such a broad concept, and authority can come from almost anything, it is pervasive and it lingers in many things I do. If I remove it, I'll lose a lot of what makes me feel good

Without these chosen identities life is hollow.  It lacks the intensity of being without any ego whatsoever. I constantly see people on here saying well what now? Well you can choose to take on a role for a while, like a hat or a new pair of pants until you tire of it again.

[BlueOak]

@Moksha

I'll give the otherside of the coin to.

With distance you learn a lot. Without identity, you are much more open to things outside of that identity. You see the connections more easily, there is no resistance when the identity is perceived to be damaged in some way. A war would be much less likely to be fought or continue past its origin, the same with an argument, or perceived damage to that identity. Its an easier way to live. Things flow easier, life is more comfortable and peaceful. You are not constantly shattering parts of yourself or your consciousness into individual pieces.

Right now I don't have the identities listed above, Except for the last one :D, but I can take them on if I need them and want to achieve a goal. I do use the identity of being from my country and also European, also one of family, but these are loose. 

 

 

[Moksha]

@BlueOak What do you see as the difference between losing yourself within an identity and remaining lucid while performing whatever tasks are required (stacking shelves, writing books, riding the bus, etc.)?

The absolute lucidly experiencing life through a form is like sprinkling salt on an otherwise bland plate of food. It enhances the quality of every phenomenal experience, even stacking shelves.

Have you experienced this yet? If not, try being lucid during any task that you would otherwise consider to be mundane. Instead of letting your mind wander, or being bored, or wishing you were anywhere but here, unconditionally allow whatever is happening and notice the energy of it flowing through you. Instead of judging the moment, embrace it as the reality which the cosmos (which is also you) is presenting here and now. Everything resonates when there is no resistance.

Why? Awareness magnifies whatever it focuses on. If it is entangled in phenomena, it believes itself to be a prisoner of its circumstances. If it is Self-aware and flows freely through the form, it enlightens every experience.

This joy becomes deeper the more free the absolute realizes itself to be, like a river bursting through a log jam until every blockage is cleared.

[Vlad_]

On 4/9/2023 at 6:46 AM, Leo Gura said:

Nobody here is AWAKE.

It's absolutely 100% correct. In order for someone to be awake there must be somebody.

None of you posses your own consciousness and therefore none of you can be awake. 

Leo, you're not awake either 

 

[Ramu]

Leo:

I've been expecting some kind of video from you (the profound kind), where you could possibly break down this whole post and explain this enigma.  I'm not really "expecting" a video, but perhaps a deeper explanation or maybe you could paraphrase or something.   Everyone here is taking a stab at deciphering what you really mean.  I understand that this whole enlightened thing is on par with mainstream spirituality which makes you squirm with contempt for mainstream spirituality.   I'm definitely on the same page with regards to spiritual bullshit, i.e. past lives, no self, Buddhism, meditation,  etc etc.  We've definitely discussed and contemplated these things to death.  It's time to move on to the next evolution of spirituality...into unknown depths.  I'm ready.

[Ramu]

I mean I'm definitely ready for more psychonaut adventures,  but availability is a major hindrance.  You get psychedelics and live in the US so you're either doing dark web or doing some other loop hole that rest of us don't know about.  Sure I'd like to do more investigation and contemplation with a technological aid, but not if it results in being arrested and prosecuted.

[Ramu]

I mean you describe all these realms and awakenings but won't discuss sourcing.  That's like saying..just go through that door over there and be God realized and learn about alien consciousness, but I have the key to the door and I'm not letting you use mine and I'm not letting you know how to get the key.  So...gee thanks?

[Thought Art]

 

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[The0Self]

1 hour ago, Ramu said:

You get psychedelics and live in the US so you're either doing dark web or doing some other loop hole that rest of us don't know about.

Huh? Tons of people here use psychedelics frequently. And of course, dark web is probably the easiest way to get anything if you don't socialize with groups that have access to such things. Clearnet for legal stuff though -- of which there is a lot.

[Ramu]

@The0Self @The0Self Wow.  So I have nothing to worry about buying 5 meo from the Dark Web?  I needn't worry about fraud or shady characters or prosecution?  I had no idea it was so carefree and easy.

[Ramu]

In short, I don't buy psychedelics from Dark Web because I look bad in orange.

[Ramu]

In other words I'm pretty damn sure the Dark Web is monitored by federal law enforcement.  So why risk arrest, prosecution and incarceration just because I need to be Awake?  There's gotta be a better way to acquire these substances than risking arrest by the feds.  Local circles of friends usually work best.  Good luck to all who make risky decisions.   

[BlueOak]

@Moksha

Thank you for this conversation

The environment and collective support identity, they reward and encourage it. Using a role allows you to be the identity for anyone looking to engage with or in it. People look and say oh he's a X. 

Nobodies experiencing every possible detail/connection/aspect whatever of their consciousness at all times. You have a Plateau that you (and almost everyone here) keep referencing, it doesn’t exist. There is just a stream that keeps going, and it keeps changing direction, you see other things when it does.

I experience what you say daily. Everyone does. There is a certain level of noise in the way for all of us. We do get in the way of ourselves. I let go of everything often. It gets me nowhere :D, but then there is nowhere to be. Unless I put on a role and go do something.

I understand that what we focus on we magnify (because that’s all that exists). What is immediately around us always has some of that focus, it can’t not else we’d walk into a wall for example. I might want something to be another way but it isn’t. I can’t change the base of the tree, even if I look up and see how beautiful the leaves are

Can I turn a boring job interesting by allowing it to be? Sometimes. Sometimes the room will be more vivid in color, the energy will be warmer or more comforting, the connections or interactions bring joy and synchronicity or I feel like I helped someone. But I cannot also escape that I am also stacking shelves, running a till, sitting in an office counting numbers, sitting in a chair waiting for work, looking for patient files in a cluttered filing cabinet, cleaning up a disgusting fridge, working with itchy fiber glass, looking at a factory floor that is itself a horrific energy/state.

I can draw hundreds of meanings and connections from each of these events, some only come years later in another form. Depending on what I focus on, i could list everything above as having helped and hurt me in different ways. I could say they built a foundation, or wasted time or whatever observation I want to give it. It's just a stream of life coming at you.

[Moksha]

@BlueOak No, people don't experience this daily. The vast majority are oblivious to their absolute nature. Many have thoughts about it, but few directly realize it. When they do, it dissolves identity.