Important! - Nobody On This Forum Is AWAKE

[OldManCorcoran]

4 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

I met amazing wings on pickup forums who were exceptionally good. So be careful with your overgeneralizations.

On every forum there are a few serious people.

You guys don't have a proper understanding of how forums work and how to use them. I have used forums to change my whole life, from business, to game design, to dating.

At best forum posters become equal to a normal man. The best result a person seems to get from a forum is to become like the type of person who would never need to sign up to a forum. Simply leaving a forum will improve your standing in any given endeavour.

I have a million net worth, I never have to work again in my life. I've never signed up to those business seminars or anything like that. The people who seem to attend those and post memes about "the grindset" seem to be eternally broke.

Forums are full of Sisyphus type people. Surround yourself with failures and you become a failure, there's truth in that.

[UnbornTao]

On 4/9/2023 at 9:06 PM, CARDOZZO said:

How to know the difference if someone is enlightened vs just parroting enlightened words?

Seems to involve intuition, above all. In any case, I'd say listen for honesty and personal experience. Ask yourself: What are their communications serving? Are they inviting you to look into things for yourself, or are they sharing opinions, beliefs and just entertaining people? Are they coming from direct experience? Are they clear, straightforward? Do they facilitate your own investigations, or do they feed you fantasies and stories? This should leave out most teachers.

Edited April 10, 2023 by UnbornTao

[Moksha]

2 hours ago, Breakingthewall said:

Maya is me, and I can fully understand myself. Just give me time.  

The absolute beyond maya, and sometimes even within maya, understands that maya constantly changes and is never fulfilled. It is the kaleidoscope, and you are looking through it trying to understand it, rather than simply enjoying its phenomenal beauty.

[Moksha]

26 minutes ago, CARDOZZO said:

How to know the difference if someone is enlightened vs just parroting enlightened words?

An incoherent fool can babble a string of words realized as pearls by someone ready to hear. What matters is not whether someone appears to be enlightened, but whether in whatever way, they direct attention more deeply to the absolute within.

[Leo Gura]

17 minutes ago, OldManCorcoran said:

At best forum posters become equal to a normal man. The best result a person seems to get from a forum is to become like the type of person who would never need to sign up to a forum. Simply leaving a forum will improve your standing in any given endeavour.

I have a million net worth, I never have to work again in my life. I've never signed up to those business seminars or anything like that. The people who seem to attend those and post memes about "the grindset" seem to be eternally broke.

Forums are full of Sisyphus type people. Surround yourself with failures and you become a failure, there's truth in that.

This is false.

People on forums are way above average. Including here.

I will kick every joker and fool out of here. Which is one of the reasons I've been being more of an asshole lately. I am raising the standards for who is allowed to interact with me.

Edited April 9, 2023 by Leo Gura

[Breakingthewall]

31 minutes ago, Moksha said:

The absolute beyond maya, and sometimes even within maya, understands that maya constantly changes and is never fulfilled. It is the kaleidoscope, and you are looking through it trying to understand it, rather than simply enjoying its phenomenal beauty.

The absolute is Maya. the understanding of reality is silent, not conceptual. for example, understanding the infinity of this exact moment. or understand that maya is a creation of your mind. I, that is, you, am reality. there is no maya vs absolute. I am not talking about healing trauma, but about using it to transcend illusion. the illusion is not the form, it is the meaning that is given to the form. this meaning is what separates us, what binds us to the mind. But there is more than the meaning, there is the human bondage, this is real, and trascend it is possible. This is the real challenge 

understanding is to realize that you are a construction in infinity made by layers and layers of energetic patterns that are being executed at this moment. all the past, everything that conforms you, is running now. To understand this is the challenge, and I'd say it's almost impossible without psychedelics

Edited April 9, 2023 by Breakingthewall

[Leo Gura]

13 minutes ago, Squeekytoy said:

Groupthink and conformity is everywhere, including here.

That's simply the nature of every community. Which is why I have not scaled Actualized.org up to something huge like I could. I made a conscious decision not to do that to avoid distractions.

Edited April 9, 2023 by Leo Gura

[Inliytened1]

2 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

That's simply the nature of every community. Which is why I have not scaled Actualized.org up to some huge. I made a conscious decision not to do that to avoid distractions.

You really do great work.  And for the most part it is free.   Keep it coming.  The best metaphysical work is already behind you though.   

[Moksha]

50 minutes ago, OldManCorcoran said:

Forums are full of Sisyphus type people. Surround yourself with failures and you become a failure, there's truth in that.

Every person is Sisyphus until he decides to get out of the way. It doesn't require becoming a recluse, which is still left with the incessant yammerings of the mind. You can live in a city of people, and be silent.

[CARDOZZO]

If we think outside of the bubble, just being here talking about enlightenment is a rare thing in society.

You should be proud of yourself. 

Even if you don’t “achieve” the highest levels of awakening, you’re partially aware of the game.

[effortlesslumen]

On 24.3.2023 at 7:46 AM, Leo Gura said:

How much wood would a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood?

@Leo Gura That would be 1 unit of wood, repeated into the infinite.  Even if he is not able to chuck wood the answer would still be 1.

 

Edited April 9, 2023 by effortlesslumen

[Moksha]

39 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

The absolute is Maya. the understanding of reality is silent, not conceptual. for example, understanding the infinity of this exact moment. or understand that maya is a creation of your mind. I, that is, you, am reality. there is no maya vs absolute. I am not talking about healing trauma, but about using it to transcend illusion. the illusion is not the form, it is the meaning that is given to the form. this meaning is what separates us, what binds us to the mind. But there is more than the meaning, there is the human bondage, this is real, and trascend it is possible. This is the real challenge 

understanding is to realize that you are a construction in infinity made by layers and layers of energetic patterns that are being executed at this moment. all the past, everything that conforms you, is running now. To understand this is the challenge, and I'd say it's almost impossible without psychedelics

Yes, the absolute is maya but it is also beyond maya. It is the essence of every qualia, and is beyond every qualia. It is the kaleidoscope, and is looking through the kaleidoscope, and is beyond the looker and the kaleidoscope.

You understand this, but only intermittently, then the door closes. Learn to keep the door open, even the slightest crack, as you move through life. The light that you let through will set you free.

It is about relaxing, not forcing. Distancing, not attaching. Letting go, not grabbing. Like a finger trap, the secret is to release pressure rather than falling into the instinctive trap of fighting your way out.

Feel the energy within, and instead of pushing it away let it flow through and beyond you. The absolute already understands the  solution to whatever needs to be solved, just let it happen already.

[CARDOZZO]

5 minutes ago, Squeekytoy said:

present to you exhibit A (hold on to yer pants):

 

I would love to know the % of humans alive today that had enlightenment experiences or are seriously seeking it.

[CARDOZZO]

Ken Wilber talks about that when we achieve a % of 2nd tier thinking humans (Yellow/Turquoise) we will have a lot of transformation on reality at all levels.

I’m contemplating this.

[Moksha]

12 minutes ago, Squeekytoy said:

You can live in a remote cottage and be silenter  

 But then you miss the phenomenal parade of misled creatures, trying to remember where they left themselves.

[Yimpa]

HA!

Of course…

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…NOBODY is EVERYTHING!

[Yimpa]

I’m literally experiencing the ability to traverse through different states of consciousness simultaneously.

How the fuck Leo 

[Breakingthewall]

3 minutes ago, RebornConsciousness said:

This whole thread is complete joke, and all the posts in it. YUCK

That is so because your understanding is that of a monkey trying to understand a computer. the normal thing is that you start hitting it while you scream

[Yimpa]

4 hours ago, RebornConsciousness said:

Even if so, who cares though

You will absolutely care when you experience some crazy ass states of consciousness. 

[Moksha]

@RebornConsciousness Given your username, surely you know the answers already 

You're mostly correct that the awakening of Leo or anyone else is irrelevant to direct knowledge. What you might not be considering is that it is all the same absolute, realizing itself in various ways, and sometimes it uses awakening within one apparent form to catalyze awakening within other forms.

I agree with you that people shouldn't be banned simply for having different perspectives, but most of the time Leo only bans people for being insincere or stagnant. Despite our disagreements, he has been remarkably tolerant of my presence.