Important! - Nobody On This Forum Is AWAKE

[Bobby_2021]

10 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Consider this: There was a distinct moment in your life when you comprehended that you exist. This was the most profound sort of thing.

Wasn't that just an observation? 

You just made a distinction in reality that you exist. 

Is it comprehension or observation? 

If reality is amechanical, observation is all there is. 

[Jwayne]

17 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Likewise, there will be a distinct moment in your life when you comprehend that you are the only thing that exists because you are GOD.

It's very difficult to read this. Because the 'comprehension' isn't going to happen verbally/conceptually in these words. Yet the reader is imagining it (i.e. the experience) using these words and picturing it based on their limited appreciation for what they imagine is being conveyed.

So I really find it to difficult to ascertain a value to even stating such things. Whatever is said is turned into a conceptual fantasy in the reader's mind and they procede to engage with it theoretically based on their own ideas. And then, of course, they ask funky questions (often getting more lost) and entire threads are created that way.

Edited April 5, 2023 by Jwayne

[Yimpa]

It seems like “right” and “wrong” exists in the realm of human consciousness.

However, at higher states of consciousness there are no distinctions. Well, there are, but it’s seen in a more playful/imaginary way since it becomes directly clear that it’s all Consciousness.

[Leo Gura]

21 minutes ago, Bobby_2021 said:

Is there even an amechanical example?

Amechanical = Pure perception.

[Pure perception means that it's amechanical and nothing below the surface powering it. What you see/experience is all.]

You can validate/invalidate these statement for me.

1. Reality is nothing but distinctions.

2. You can comprehend the nature distinction.

3. Therefore you have comprehended reality.

You have to admit that this is comprehending reality with completeness atleast at some level.

Instead of merely repeating

"I am aware and you are asleep"

try to point out the flaw in the logic if what I am saying.

Am I incomplete in my understanding? Is there something to reality more than distinctions?

There is a lot more than distinctions. You have turned the notion of distinctions into yet another kind of reductionism. You've just replaced atoms with distinctions. This is not going to get you far.

18 minutes ago, Bobby_2021 said:

Wasn't that just an observation? 

No.

14 minutes ago, Jwayne said:

It's very difficult to read this. Because the 'comprehension' isn't going to happen verbally/conceptually in these words. Yet the reader is imagining it (i.e. the experience) using these words and picturing it based on their limited appreciation for what they imagine is being conveyed.

So I really find it to difficult to ascertain a value to even stating such things. Whatever is said is turned into a conceptual fantasy in the reader's mind and they procede to engage with it theoretically based on their own ideas. And then, of course, they ask funky questions (often getting more lost) and entire threads are created that way.

I gave a clear explanation, examples, and practical guidance.

Stop yammering and sit down and investigate the nature of comprehension. Comprehension exists in your experience. Don't ask me, look at it in you. You comprehend things all the time in minor and major ways. Examine what that is.

Edited April 5, 2023 by Leo Gura

[Yimpa]

What I am comprehending currently is that the more selfless I become, the more beauty is revealed.

Like, seriously, whenever your mind tries to convince you reality should be a different way than it is, it’s just trolling on an epic scale. 

[Yimpa]

Ok. I Am having another mystical experience.

Thank You, Thank You, Thank You!

Update: I’m literally Conscious of how time is a construct. It’s all Infinite Beauty.

Edited April 5, 2023 by Yimpa

[Jwayne]

13 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

I gave a clear explanation, examples, and practical guidance.

What happens all of the time is that people read 'You are God' and then conceptualize it into a new identity. So 'I am God' is just the verbalization of the (new, subtle) ego and especially, when further there is no verification to be evidenced to anyone, not even bi-products (i.e. embodiment) that could testify to any kind of mystical experience. To compensate they talk/write repetitively about it.

[Jwayne]

5 minutes ago, Yimpa said:

Ok. I Am having another mystical experience.

Thank You, Thank You, Thank You!

Update: I’m literally Conscious of how time is a construct. It’s all Infinite Beauty.

You're not having a 'mystical experience'. You are logged-in to the forum and typing.

[Yimpa]

Just now, Jwayne said:

You're not having a 'mystical experience'. You are logged-in to the forum and typing.

Don’t gaslight me. 

[Jwayne]

4 minutes ago, Yimpa said:

Don’t gaslight me. 

I'm sorry, can you do both things at the same time? I find using screen-based technology to be very distracting. What is it about exalted experience that makes people immediately (like... within seconds) share about it on Actualized.org?

Edited April 5, 2023 by Jwayne
clarification / politeness

[Roy]

Is this the longest thread in the history of the forum? Damn.

[Yimpa]

1 minute ago, Jwayne said:

 What is it about exalted experience that makes people immediately (like... within seconds) share about it on Actualized.org?

I’d rather that then talk to the fire extinguisher next to me about it.

[Jwayne]

Just now, Yimpa said:

I’d rather that then talk to the fire extinguisher next to me about it.

Fair enough

[Yimpa]

1 minute ago, Roy said:

Is this the longest thread in the history of the forum? Damn.

For very good reasons. Every other topic doesn’t compare to THIS.

[caspex]

@Leo Gura You ever have doubts that maybe one day everything or major aspects of your teachings will be invalidated by some contradictory awaking that is above all others? Or is that you have absolute confidence in your teachings?

[caspex]

6 minutes ago, Roy said:

Is this the longest thread in the history of the forum? Damn.

@Roy nah check this thread out
 

 

[Jwayne]

2 minutes ago, Swarnim said:

@Leo Gura You ever have doubts that maybe one day everything or major aspects of your teachings will be invalidated by some contradictory awaking that is above all others? Or is that you have absolute confidence in your teachings?

What is unique about the essential aspects of the teaching that hasn't existed somewhere before? Am I missing something?

Edited April 5, 2023 by Jwayne

[Leo Gura]

15 minutes ago, Jwayne said:

What happens all of the time is that people read 'You are God' and then conceptualize it into a new identity.

Of course you have to be careful not to adopt this as a belief. An Awakening is required wherein to comprehend what is being pointed to with the words.

[Yimpa]

1 minute ago, Jwayne said:

What is unique about the essential aspects of the teaching that hasn't existed somewhere before? Am I missing something?

It cuts through all the human bullshit.

Alien Consciousness.

[Yimpa]

How come more selflessness will reveal more beauty? Because your consciousness and love expands -beyond physical limitations.