Important! - Nobody On This Forum Is AWAKE

[Water by the River]

10 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

 It's easy to realize you are imagining everything.  All of it.  It's not so easy to forget afterwards.  That's the trick.  The ability to seamlessly shift between the two.  

I wish I could write it so compact and concise 

Selling Water by the river

[Inliytened1]

9 minutes ago, Water by the River said:

I wish I could write it so compact and concise 

Selling Water by the river

It's actually not that easy to realize it's all imaginary..but it's just as hard if not harder to forget.   The challenge God has is how to forget.  Awakening is the easy part because he's God.   However once he puts it in place it is almost impossible to see through  Because God is perfection.

Edited April 4, 2023 by Inliytened1

[Bobby_2021]

20 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Comprehension is the only thing that matters.

Awakening requires comprehension

If reality is merely perception, then is there anything to comprehend.

In the case the of the doorknob, you can make up some human bullshit about how the knob works, but how do you know that it's true.

Does reality require that kind of understanding to exist.

What if the deepest way that you can comprehend a doorknob is merely the perception of it and nothing more.

Does reality need an underlying mechanics to function? 

[Inliytened1]

33 minutes ago, Bobby_2021 said:

If reality is merely perception, then is there anything to comprehend.

In the case the of the doorknob, you can make up some human bullshit about how the knob works, but how do you know that it's true.

Does reality require that kind of understanding to exist.

What if the deepest way that you can comprehend a doorknob is merely the perception of it and nothing more.

Does reality need an underlying mechanics to function? 

There's a clicking when you understand a thing.  It can't be explained bexause its prior to.  Like when you get a good joke.  You just get it. That's understanding.   

Edited April 4, 2023 by Inliytened1

[tuku747]

43 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

It's actually not that easy to realize it's all imaginary..but it's just as hard if not harder to forget.   The challenge God has is how to forget.  Awakening is the easy part because he's God.   However once he puts it in place it is almost impossible to see through  Because God is perfection.

God, in the fully awakened state is Infinite Intelligence. So forgetting is easy... We did so when we incarnated into this earth experiment. The Earth's electromagnetic field acts as a veil from cosmic consciousness. Intentional focus raises us beyond the veil and remembering occurs

Edited April 4, 2023 by tuku747

[Inliytened1]

6 minutes ago, tuku747 said:

God, in the fully awakened state is Infinite Intelligence. So forgetting is easy... We did so when we incarnated into this earth experiment. The Earth's electromagnetic field acts as a veil from cosmic consciousness. Intentional focus raises us beyond the veil and remembering occurs

To be unlimited is easy.  Limitation goes against the grain because God's natural state is without limitation.  

[Leo Gura]

9 hours ago, Moksha said:

I am under no delusion that I am superior or inferior to anyone else, including you. We are all absolutely the same, only our forms appear to differ.

You are under the delusion of thinking you understand what I am teaching.

What differs is our understanding of Consciousness & GOD.

2 hours ago, Zion said:

@Leo Gura Who do you consider to be awake other than you that is outside of this forum?

No one. Nobody on this planet understands what Consciousness is. These people are all fooling themselves.

1 hour ago, Bobby_2021 said:

If reality is merely perception, then is there anything to comprehend.

In the case the of the doorknob, you can make up some human bullshit about how the knob works, but how do you know that it's true.

Does reality require that kind of understanding to exist.

What if the deepest way that you can comprehend a doorknob is merely the perception of it and nothing more.

Does reality need an underlying mechanics to function? 

God is capable of fully comprehending itself.

Edited April 4, 2023 by Leo Gura

[Breakingthewall]

This is the most clarifier and valuable thread that has been in this forum. It is the before and after in Leo's explanation of spirituality. finally, in the history of humanity, someone addresses this thoroughly. what is being done here is enormous and leo is a monster. few realize what this means.

Edited April 4, 2023 by Breakingthewall

[Zion]

1 hour ago, Leo Gura said:

No one. Nobody on this planet understands what Consciousness is. These people are all fooling themselves.

Granted I'm open to the possibility that what you say is the case; is true. How did you come to this conclusion? Thats quite a remarkable assumption. And extremely difficult to not see that you have become stagnated in a perpetual cycle of egocentric delusion. How do you determine whether someone/something is awake? How do you compare your wake with another's, with such true precision? Why is it not harmful/unhealthy to have this mindset of seeing yourself as the only person awake? What is your goal/purpose/intention of this post? What is the lesson to be learned from your being the only one awake? What is the meaning of you telling everyone this, you can clearly see how posting this can be seen as braggadocious & extremely egocentric? Such an isolated perspective, how is this to bring a healthy community here? If the intention isn't a healthy community, what is the point of the forum then? To have all of us realize the same thing as you & eventually part ways? To use as a resource to further help you egotistically understand reality? Such an isolated perspective, if this post isn't for the sake of the community here; what is the point of it?; how is it intended to help you?; what is it doing for you? 

I'm genuinely interested in the answers to these questions, this is not intending to be seen as offensive to then isight combative arguments rooted in pure emotion.

Edited April 4, 2023 by Zion

[Leo Gura]

5 minutes ago, Zion said:

How did you come to this conclusion?

I became GOD.

I don't need to make any logical conclusions. I simply enter Omniscience and I know.

Edited April 4, 2023 by Leo Gura

[Zion]

3 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

I became GOD.

Why does that then mean that no one else can be truly awake other than you? Are you saying for one to be god; to enter omniscience, no one else can be?

And of course if you are all, given that you're god, then it sounds like you've created a cycle of convincing yourself you are right about virtually anything you decide to be true; such that you can no longer see another perspective & truly determine that you're right. Only merely give faith to the perspective you preach & teach to others is true, by previous means of solidifying your perspective of what's true through psychedelics & meditation. What is it you're still searching for if you are omniscient? What are you doing here? You may say something like "living", "having fun", "exploring", & if that's the case, then all of this is purposeless & you trying to pierce/share your perspective into the world with no end-agenda or true purpose other than to lead people closer to your perspective using your ego. Meaning you're just lost & sharing your journey with us of the path you take. And if thats the case, then you are completely full of shit. Not meaning you are wrong, but if you're right; dam is that a difficult thing to just accept. How do you know that this is even the right method of determining what's absolutely true? Intuition? Faith? It seems only to be a perspective that can't quite be fully adapted by any other one person, so what's the point of looking to you for or as anything? After all, it's your perspective, no one else's. No one has that same perspective as they don't have the same material life you have. How is anyone to become truly awake if they aren't you or have your exact perspective? It seems like a lonely world to live in Leo, materially. As one may always be craving to preferably perceive themselves as the infinity that they see themselves to be truly, always seeking to escape the material life. What is the then-point of living a material life? And clearly when I'm asking these questions, I'm asking you personally. How are you embodying these understandings without completely being destroyed materially? I suspect these are some harsh truths, & difficult truths at that, for a material life to take on long-term. What are you holding onto? What is keeping you here? Principle? Have you convinced your body to enjoy the embodiment of these truths? Are you becoming increasingly crippled from embodying these truths? Are you trying to figure out a way to live materially with the truths of the infinite, in a wise & fulfilling way, as to teach that way to others? What is it you want in this material life Leo?

I haven't ruled out that you are wrong, I'm curious about your perspective. I'm literally trying to imagine if an omniscient being was trapped inside of a material world, a material being called "Leo". And if this Leo was completely aware of this being the case as well, I'm trying to imagine all of the possible ways it would be conveyed/expressed through exclusive material expression. I suppose it's difficult to accept a life which has no decided purpose or decided value. Either way, I have a feeling you're on the right track, don't know how far right, but you're leading somewhere potentially very true. 

[Jwayne]

53 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

I became GOD.

I don't need to make any logical conclusions. I simply enter Omniscience and I know.

Is there any way to verify your "Omniscience"? What do you have to show for it? You're using it as an unfalsifiable claim. A large part of this forum is a dick measuring contest about whose psychadelic experience (and guru) is superior.

[Leo Gura]

12 minutes ago, Zion said:

Why does that then mean that no one else can be truly awake other than you? Are you saying for one to be god; to enter omniscience, no one else can be?

Maybe I'm full of shit.

Find out for yourself what's true.

Your really expect GOD to explain itself to you?

6 minutes ago, Jwayne said:

Is there any way to verify your "Omniscience"?

Don't worry about verifying mine. Focus on verifying yours.

Do not make this work about me. I am irrelevant. All I am here to do is to push you to question everything, especially all the spiritual stuff you've been brainwashed with.

Edited April 4, 2023 by Leo Gura

[Jwayne]

1 minute ago, Leo Gura said:

Maybe I'm full of shit.

Find out for yourself what's true.

Don't worry about verifying mine. Focus on verifying yours.

Good answer

[Bobby_2021]

1 hour ago, Leo Gura said:

I became GOD.

I don't need to make any logical conclusions. I simply enter Omniscience and I know.

I understand, but my position is that there isn't anything to understand.

Reality itself can be simply imagined since there is nothing to place limitations on it.

You can understand something when the components that make up for it has to accomodate limitations and balance each other, as in the case of doorknob.

I am just playing devil's advocate here. I don't see how there is anything to understand reality as a whole. It's just pure imagination/perception.

Is there any mechanics to reality?

I remember you saying that reality is a mechanical.

You can comprehend finite things though.

Thoughts? 

2 hours ago, Inliytened1 said:

There's a clicking when you understand a thing.  It can't be explained because its prior to.  Like when you get a good joke.  You just get it. That's understanding.   

I get that you understand finite things.

I don't understand how you can comprehend infinity. There isn't anything to comprehend since it's everything.

You can dream about a demon riding a bicycle having an elf on his shoulder and there isn't anything to understand about it.

It's simply one configuration of the infinity of imagination/perception or you can even say it's infinity itself. 

Maybe it's a different type of comprehension. 

Damn I need to take psychedelics fast. 

[Leo Gura]

17 minutes ago, Bobby_2021 said:

I understand, but my position is that there isn't anything to understand.

Excuse me? You what?

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You're wrong. There is GOD to understand. And you don't understand it at the moment. Hence the need for this thread. If everyone here understood GOD then my job would be done and I would not need to confront anyone or explain anything.

This thread exists to address the common problem I see where which is people not understanding GOD.

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Is there any mechanics to reality?

I remember you saying that reality is amechanical.

For you to know that reality is amechanical would already require extremely profound understanding of it.

So your logic defeats itself.

You are taking my doorknob example too literally. Just because a doorknob is mechanical does mean that all understanding is mechanical or that you can only understand mechanical things.

Understanding has nothing to do with mechanicalness. These are independent issues.

Just notice that your whole life hinges on understanding. You could not even get through this thread without it.

Understand?

Edited April 4, 2023 by Leo Gura

[Zion]

23 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Maybe I'm full of shit.

Find out for yourself what's true.

GOD cannot explain itself to you.

(Of course rooting mainly from logic & reason here) I see what's going on here. If all is one, then there can only be one; that is the mindset that being one has. How is it's material form to relate to other perceived-material- beings that don't share the same understanding it has in this way? Especially when the mindset & understanding is so profoundly different than that of everyone around them? How are they then going to tell if anyone is truly awake in the same way? Perhaps thats a potential flaw/feature in your delineation of determining whether someone is truly awake or not. Still clearly feels like potential omniscience funneled through an immature ego, but hey who truly knows. Only those who seek the absolute truths within themselves with complete open-mindedness I suppose.

Edited April 4, 2023 by Zion

[Leo Gura]

4 minutes ago, Zion said:

How are they then going to tell if anyone is truly awake in the same way?

I'll know it when I see it.

In most cases I can just listen to you guys speak for a few minutes and tell that you don't understand what GOD is. Same goes for all the nondual teachers and Buddhists. They are not teaching what I am talking about.

Edited April 4, 2023 by Leo Gura

[Zion]

1 minute ago, Leo Gura said:

I'll know it when I see it.

In most cases I can just listen to you guys speak for a few minutes and tell you don't understand what GOD is.

It seems for someone to seemingly understand what GOD is to you, they must not need to speak it at all, or they need to articulate it in such a way when speaking/writing, that it is either better explained than you or insightful to your understanding of GOD.

[Leo Gura]

@Zion No, it doesn't need to be better. It just needs to capture the depth of matter. The key thing I look for is depth of understanding.

When I hear someone telling me that they have meditated their way to GOD, to me this is laughably shallow. Nobody will ever meditate or self-inquire his way to the things I've become conscious of. I have lots of experience dealing with such people, and I find flaws in all them. GOD is too profound for such things.

Edited April 4, 2023 by Leo Gura