Important! - Nobody On This Forum Is AWAKE

[Thought Art]

Honestly I still feel like I don’t know anything sometimes 

[CARDOZZO]

@Thought Art

I feel the same.

Honestly, I'm going back to master stage orange and let spirituality aside for a time.

 

[ZhenZhenZhen]

Love

[Someone here]

27 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

 

I'm GOD. Nothing is against me

False.

Is God everything?

Is God everything, everywhere and everyone?

You use Truth and God interchangeably. So If God is not a temporary experience but all experience then what exactly follows from that if not that everything is awake? 

Since God resides in everything and in everyone and controls everything and everyone, He is  everything. 

Let me refer to an ancient Sanskrit texts of Vedas :

dṛṣṭaṁ śrutaṁ bhūta-bhavad-bhaviṣyat
sthāsnuś cariṣṇur mahad alpakaṁ ca
vinācyutād vastu tarāṁ na vācyaṁ
sa eva sarvaṁ paramātma-bhūtaḥ

‘’Nothing can be said to exist independent of the Lord. nothing heard or seen, nothing in the past, present or future, nothing moving or unmoving, great or small. He indeed is everything, for He is the Supreme Soul.’’

[JellyDogShoe_1Mil]

There is no awakening.

What is, is what is. 

Are you aware? Do you exist? Are you aware that you exist?

There you go. It is already the case. 

[Thought Art]

At the same time, I know I had some pretty deep insights and awakenings. It's still, mysterious 

[Thought Art]

1 minute ago, JellyDogShoe_1Mil said:

There is no awakening.

What is, is what is. 

Are you aware? Do you exist? Are you aware that you exist?

There you go. It is already the case. 

My God man, wake up 

There are awakenings. 

Edited March 27, 2023 by Thought Art

[JellyDogShoe_1Mil]

4 minutes ago, Thought Art said:

My God man, wake up 

There are awakenings. 

Yes, there are the appearance of awakenings. 

Appearing in what? Non-conceptual awareness. 

Regardless of any "awakenings," awareness is, and shall always be.

Edited March 27, 2023 by JellyDogShoe_1Mil

[Thought Art]

@JellyDogShoe_1Mil Yeah okay, tell me that when you have a deep awakening

[JellyDogShoe_1Mil]

1 minute ago, Thought Art said:

@JellyDogShoe_1Mil Yeah okay, tell me that when you have a deep awakening

Sure, but the experience is not needed. There is no need for mystical experiences.

Experiences come and go, but you don't. 

[Moksha]

7 hours ago, Breakingthewall said:

then step 2 begins: the understanding of what reality is.

Do you see that absolute reality is beyond understanding and is only directly realized? What is there to understand that is not imagination?

[Thought Art]

@JellyDogShoe_1Mil Depends how deeply you wanna know

[JellyDogShoe_1Mil]

@Thought Art Know what? What is to be known?

Reality? You are the reality. The mind can never know your being, because the mind itself appears in that.

Edited March 27, 2023 by JellyDogShoe_1Mil

[Thought Art]

@JellyDogShoe_1Mil Well, Maybe one day you’ll be surprised. Your framing could very easily lead to a retardation of one’s spiritual potential. 
 

Sure, you exist. You are reality. But… you can awaken deeper and deeper into it. There’s a lot more here than just “you exist”. Yes, you exist. But…. Personally there’s something of the depth of realization that I’ve observed and still, I feel dumbfounded. 
 

I am sensing a Buddhist framing here. 
 

Contrary to Buddhist framing I do think there’s is great depth to reality, there are types of awakenings that are deep, profound and meaningful and… yeah

Edited March 27, 2023 by Thought Art

[Leo Gura]

33 minutes ago, Someone here said:

So If God is not a temporary experience but all experience then what exactly follows from that if not that everything is awake?

That does not follow. Because God likes to dream, sleep, and play games. Which is your present condition.

Edited March 27, 2023 by Leo Gura

[JellyDogShoe_1Mil]

@Thought Art I do love surprises. But to whom does the deepening or surprises appear to?

You, non-conceptual awareness.

That, which you already are, reading this reply. 

[Thought Art]

@JellyDogShoe_1Mil Sure, that’s nothing new to me.

But, Thai field of awareness… is dreaming and the finite consciousness which is me, this human intelligence is still learning and growing and awakening to understand itself ever deeper.

Waking up, realizing things like time, space, external reality, others etc are things I’m constructing is a lot deeper than just “awareness man”

Edited March 27, 2023 by Thought Art

[Someone here]

7 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

That does not follow

Then what follows ?? 

7 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Because God likes to dream, sleep, and play games. Which is your present condition.

And what's wrong with that ?

infinity is inevitable.

It's not like my ego has control over God's ultimate existential plan.

[Leo Gura]

1 minute ago, Someone here said:

And what's wrong with that ?

Nothing is wrong. You just don't comprehend GOD.

[Someone here]

14 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Nothing is wrong. You just don't comprehend GOD.

I agree. A finite mind cannot comprehend the infinite. But I don't have any method to expand my mind other than meditation and listening to your videos. 

You know why? Because I was born in a shitty country that makes it impossible for me to get my hands on some 5 meo. 

Also I was raised by hindu family and I got brainwashed certain things about what God is. 

 Its nothing in mine and I am just fine with that.

God is just result of your society passing on old beliefs. If you were lost in the woods as child and raised by animals would you ever hear about any god? No. Your belief comes not from the facts, god himself or herself but from society you were raised in.

You see, if you were raised in Iran you would be Muslim, or in India. you would be Hindu or China.. Buddhism or USA.. Christian…etc.