Important! - Nobody On This Forum Is AWAKE

[Yimpa]

11 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Which is why hardly any two spiritual teachers agree with each other. Haven't you noticed they all disagree? How come? Obviously because there is no such thing as a singular Awakening. People who claim there is only one Awakening are not serious.

Love this. I left religion, only to find myself following nonduality. It’s an improvement in certain aspects, but I’m starting to see that even nonduality locks you inside a “box”. 

Thank you for helping us discover that there are infinite kinds of Awakening to explore. The belief that there’s only one Awakening really kept me stuck and frustrated at myself.

[Leo Gura]

11 minutes ago, Gesundheit2 said:

https://americanliterature.com/author/james-baldwin/short-story/the-blind-men-and-the-elephant

Some men have seen more of the elephant than others. So this metaphor is misleading. Not everyone is equally blind. My claim is that I've seen more of the elephant than most people have. You can dispute me all you want, but you can't really deny that not everyone has seen the elephant equally.

10 minutes ago, Salvijus said:

But u haven't had a buddhist samadhi. Where the breath stops. Existence vanishes. And 7days last like 1moment.

Or am i projecting again?

I've had some samadhi. Not necessarily that one you describe.

But I've had Awakenings way beyond that. That's not the highest Awakening.

10 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

I think the point is awakening from the dream is final.  Once you have become directly conscious that you are God dreaming all bets are off.  You cannot go back.  The rest is a deeper exploration of yourself as God. But to realize you are God, is singular. 

That's just not the case based on my experience.

There is Awakening so deep that you could not function in normal life. You couldn't drive a car.

Just by the fact that you can drive a car I can tell that you're not deeply Conscious.

Edited March 25, 2023 by Leo Gura

[Inliytened1]

1 minute ago, Leo Gura said:

Some men have seen more of the elephant than others. So this metaphor is misleading. Not everyone is equally blind.

I've had some samadhi. Not necessarily that you describe.

But I've had Awakenings way beyond that. That's not the highest Awakening.

That's just not the case based on my experience.

There is Awakening so deep that you would not function in normal life. You couldn't drive a car.

Of course.  I could not function weeks after.  I almost didn't come back. 

[Breakingthewall]

Just now, Leo Gura said:

Oh sure. I don't dispute that some of you guys have had legit awakenings and mystical experiences.

then maybe you should stop saying: nobody here is awake, and replace it with: nobody here is as awake as me.

although I really do think that there is a dichotomy between awake and not awake. it is to have become infinite, or not. there is a crucial difference. It's the before and after. after having become infinite once, you will never be the same, you have realized that the finite was an illusion, you have broken the limits. later you can delve into it, or not do it

[StarStruck]

26 minutes ago, Salvijus said:

If you don't like this song, you're not awake.

 

This one is better

 

[Leo Gura]

1 minute ago, Breakingthewall said:

then maybe you should stop saying: nobody here is awake, and replace it with: nobody here is as awake as me.

I didn't just say awake. I said AWAKE.

[Yimpa]

Just now, Leo Gura said:

I didn't just say awake. I said AWAKE.

Thank you, God. I will continue doing my homework.

[StarStruck]

1 minute ago, Breakingthewall said:

then maybe you should stop saying: nobody here is awake, and replace it with: nobody here is as awake as me.

although I really do think that there is a dichotomy between awake and not awake. it is to have become infinite, or not. there is a crucial difference. It's the before and after. after having become infinite once, you will never be the same, you have realized that the finite was an illusion, you have broken the limits. later you can delve into it, or not do it

If Leo was truly awake he could hack God’s database and look into his followers brains and see who is awakened and who not. 

[Salvijus]

2 minutes ago, StarStruck said:

This one is better

 

This guy is awake ? @StarStruck

Edited March 25, 2023 by Salvijus

[StarStruck]

1 minute ago, Salvijus said:

This guy is awake @StarStruck

I remember busting nuts on that video as a kid so I definitely reached some peaks on it 

[Devin]

2 minutes ago, StarStruck said:

This one is better

 

This one is better.

 

[Breakingthewall]

3 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

I didn't just say awake. I said AWAKE.

to try to understand. Do you consider that you yourself, in the video in which you appear in an awakening saying, there is no one in control, it is infinity, etc...were you AWAKE?

[Salvijus]

15 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

I've had some samadhi. Not necessarily that one you describe.

But I've had Awakenings way beyond that. That's not the highest Awakening.

Are u sure you're giving enough credit to the samadhi i was describing? Total absorbtion into absolute. Where breath stops and u are completely sucked into absolute. And energy is so profound in the body that the body survives on prana generated by the samadhi alone. Time is completely wiped out. 1000 years can feel like 1moment

Idk why but it seems your not giving enough credit how insane these states are.

Edited March 25, 2023 by Salvijus

[Salvijus]

6 minutes ago, StarStruck said:

I remember busting nuts on that video as a kid so I definitely reached some peaks on it 

Lol

[axiom]

Once upon a time in a small village, there was a bustling playground filled with joyful children. Every day, they would gather after school to play games, share stories, and laugh with one another. Among them, a group of kids was particularly fond of a game they had created called "The Counting Challenge."

The rules of the game were simple: each child would take turns claiming they could count to a higher number than the others, and the winner would be the one who claimed the highest number. Every day, they would boast about how high they could count, trying to out-compete their friends.

One sunny afternoon, the children gathered to play their favorite game once more. A little boy named Sam proudly declared that he could count up to one hundred, while Sarah, a competitive girl, announced she could count up to two hundred. Not to be outdone, Tom claimed he could count to a thousand.

Just as the children were arguing and trying to outdo each other, an old man who had been observing them from a bench nearby approached the group. The children fell silent, curious to hear what he had to say.The old man smiled kindly and said, "My dear children, I have watched you play this game for many days, and I see that you all love to compete. But have you ever considered the nature of the universe and the true meaning of numbers?"

He paused, and a profound silence enveloped the playground. The old man spoke once more, his voice filled with an ancient wisdom that seemed to resonate with the very fabric of the cosmos.

No-one could hear what he said. They were too busy counting.

The old man opened his mouth to speak once again, but then decided against it.

[PeaceOut96]

@Leo Gura 

Nobody is going to enter the Highest Awakening you talk about without years of this work, inhuman deconstruction and openmindeness, lot of manual spiritual practises and than awakenings from psychedelics. Can you see your own work holisticly? And lets not forget its almost  impossible without having a psychedelic like 5-Meo to enter these insane states of Alien Intelligence you talk about. But nonetheless I believe you know that already and I see the eagerness in you to push trough all of the bullshit coming from the human mind. I see through all of it. And I like it ?

[Leo Gura]

17 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

to try to understand. Do you consider that you yourself, in the video in which you appear in an awakening saying, there is no one in control, it is infinity, etc...were you AWAKE?

I have since reached much higher Awakening. That video is years old.

6 minutes ago, PeaceOut96 said:

@Leo Gura 

Nobody is going to enter the Highest Awakening you talk about without years of this work, inhuman deconstruction and openmindeness, lot of manual spiritual practises and than awakenings from psychedelics.

Pretty much. But you don't have to reach the highest to get a lot of value out of this work. It's the journey not the destination. Don't be too in a rush. Enjoy the whole process of investigating Consciousness. It's all good stuff. And all your lowest awakenings will still be awesome. You don't need the highest right off the bat.

Edited March 25, 2023 by Leo Gura

[Breakingthewall]

5 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

have since reached much higher Awakening. That video is years old

10 minutes ago, PeaceOut96 said:

@Leo Gura 

 

Yes, but it was a real awakening, or seems so. the breaking of the apparent limits of the finite. that is awakening for me. become infinite. It's the before and after. Once this is achieved (because you have to achieve it, whatever they say), I suppose that the deepening begins, but that awakening is the turning point imo

Edited March 25, 2023 by Breakingthewall

[Breakingthewall]

19 minutes ago, axiom said:

Once upon a time in a small village, there was a bustling playground filled with joyful children. Every day, they would gather after school to play games, share stories, and laugh with one another. Among them, a group of kids was particularly fond of a game they had created called "The Counting Challenge."

The rules of the game were simple: each child would take turns claiming they could count to a higher number than the others, and the winner would be the one who claimed the highest number. Every day, they would boast about how high they could count, trying to out-compete their friends.

One sunny afternoon, the children gathered to play their favorite game once more. A little boy named Sam proudly declared that he could count up to one hundred, while Sarah, a competitive girl, announced she could count up to two hundred. Not to be outdone, Tom claimed he could count to a thousand.

Just as the children were arguing and trying to outdo each other, an old man who had been observing them from a bench nearby approached the group. The children fell silent, curious to hear what he had to say.The old man smiled kindly and said, "My dear children, I have watched you play this game for many days, and I see that you all love to compete. But have you ever considered the nature of the universe and the true meaning of numbers?"

He paused, and a profound silence enveloped the playground. The old man spoke once more, his voice filled with an ancient wisdom that seemed to resonate with the very fabric of the cosmos.

No-one could hear what he said. They were too busy counting.

The old man opened his mouth to speak once again, but then decided against it.

I know another story. Some children were playing counting numbers and they only knew how to count up to 1. They spent the days saying, 1,1,1, like this all their lives, until one took 5 meo and suddenly encompassed all the numbers, which were infinite, and from That day, he decided, for pleasure, to keep counting, 2,3,4, etc, knowing that it would never end.

[Gesundheit2]

1 hour ago, Inliytened1 said:

Enough with the word games. 

You are a word game. I was 200% serious about what I said. Trust me.

1 hour ago, Leo Gura said:

Some men have seen more of the elephant than others. So this metaphor is misleading. Not everyone is equally blind. My claim is that I've seen more of the elephant than most people have. You can dispute me all you want, but you can't really deny that not everyone has seen the elephant equally.

1. Yeah, if the elephant is a finite material object.
2. The problem of qualia/relativity.
3. On a more relative level, all established gurus are older than you. And people like Inliytened1 and Frank Yang are older than you. So the odds are not completely with you there either.
4. I don't even take the elephant and blind men metaphor seriously. Gurus don't always disagree about different parts of the elephant. Sometimes they disagree about the same part. They just don't understand the problems of language. Or they do, but speak from ego (survival/politics), which is worse double-fold (Zen Devils).

Still despite all that, I think you are extremely conscious. At least more conscious than anyone I know, like I stated earlier. I have many reasons for thinking that, including your extensively long and extremely unique and original work for over the span of 10 years, and the fact that you are overly anti-dogma contrary to most other teachers who back the validity of their insights with tradition/culture.

Edited March 25, 2023 by Gesundheit2