5 meo dmt is overrated

[LSD-Rumi]

I think Leo overrates this one. The bodyload is significant, the trip is short and is not as vision inducing as LSD. The only positive thing is that it doesn't have tolerance like acid does.

I went so much deeper on a 200ug LSD than on a 20 or  even 30 mg of  5-meo dmt. Acid is as clean as 5 meo when you have already done it many times.

I did 3, 20 mg trips. Maybe I will go deeper in the future. The first two ones were "cleansing" ones let's say. I will report back if it hits harder.

Edited March 23, 2023 by LSD-Rumi

[OBEler]

@LSD-Rumi interesting, that your acid trips changed over time to become more clearer. Thanks for your insights 

 

[LSD-Rumi]

31 minutes ago, OBEler said:

@LSD-Rumi interesting, that your acid trips changed over time to become more clearer. Thanks for your insights 

 

Yeah, I think Leo underrates LSD considering he used it once or twice. LSD can be very powerful. I once became everything, the grass in a zebra mouth. I once was eaten alive by a raptor, I once was raped and gave birth to myself as Jesus christ, Lol. I once clapped my hands and saw the whole big bang happening in real life.

And the insights, sheesh, They came pouring out on me from every direction.

Edited March 23, 2023 by LSD-Rumi

[OBEler]

@LSD-Rumi oh man this sounds so total mindfucked

I dont know if I could handle that crazy stuff on lsd. I always keep it therefore low dose on lsd

[Grateful Dead]

It's not overrated if you want to dissolve the ego, very effective imo.

[Federico del pueblo]

2 hours ago, LSD-Rumi said:

I once became everything, the grass in a zebra mouth. I once was eaten alive by a raptor, I once was raped and gave birth to myself as Jesus christ, Lol. I once clapped my hands and saw the whole big bang happening in real life.

Crazy shit! ?

What did you learn from it when you were eaten by a raptor for example?

[LSD-Rumi]

14 minutes ago, Federico del pueblo said:

Crazy shit! ?

What did you learn from it when you were eaten by a raptor for example?

I didn't resist it, lol. I learned not to resist.

[Rigel]

I get everything I would want out of a psychedelic with mushrooms but I definitely want to confirme the 5-meo hype some day. 

[Luminescence]

I agree with you, LSD is also my favorite and the longer you trip with LSD the cleaner and deeper the trips get in my experience as well.

Its all rather personal prefrence and how the perticular psych works on you, I know someone who only gets body load and feels ill on LSD and nothing else, I on the other hand merge into ecstatic union with God.

With 5 meo dmt it also gets better the more you do it so keep going and you'll see what I mean.

[OldManCorcoran]

Visions are perceptions, perceptions are irrelevant. The fact there aren't visions is why 5-MeO-DMT is the only psychedelic worth anything. N,n-DMT can produce insights but too rare.

[Federico del pueblo]

@LSD-Rumi @Luminescence What do you guys mean with "cleaner"? Is it like less confusing or less random? What would a "dirty" trip be like?

[Israfil]

56 minutes ago, Federico del pueblo said:

@LSD-Rumi @Luminescence What do you guys mean with "cleaner"? Is it like less confusing or less random? What would a "dirty" trip be like?

 

 Clean trips usually mean less body load, nausea, mental confusion, and etc.

[Leo Gura]

LSD is powerful, but 5-MeO-DMT is clearer and more direct. LSD will still have you playing games.

Yes, the biggest downside of 5-MeO-DMT is the short duration. But this can also be an upside because you can do it any time of the day, and you can redose it with zero tolerance, unlike LSD.

Edited March 23, 2023 by Leo Gura

[Kingston]

I agree with the uncomfortable body load on 5-MEO-DMT. I've only done 4 times of 5-ME0-DMT but every time I feel nauseous when the effect came up. However, after surrendering, the nausea would go away and I would blasted into infinity and pure consciousness which is 10x-20x more direct and powerful than high dose of LSD. And in this sense, 5-MEO-DMT is more helpful for our work here.

To me they are both amazing. They just have different flavors. I agree with Leo that LSD will still have you playing games. You can even use LSD for pure entertainment. (I assume this would be the main reasons for most of the LSD users around the world).

LSD is still cool for me. Playing game won't be necessary bad because you'll need to build it up from it and slowly approach to God. I think this would be the realistic approach for most people who doing this work. A lot of time when I tripped on LSD, I used it to watch porn, listen to music and doing some other fun stuff in the first 1-2 hours, and during the peak I would then just sit in silent and enjoy the crazy insight, God consciousness or love it gave me, and at the come down I would listen to Leo's contents for profound contemplation. Due to the nature of the long duration, I would achieve a lot in one trip and even contemplate a lot of things during the trip.

For 5-MEO-DMT, it's direct and serious. It's scary and profound. It's what you really need if you are serious in this work.

Which is better? Well, they have different flavors and I love both of them!

Edited March 23, 2023 by Kingston

[Oppositionless]

I used to pop acid like it was candy back when I was young and dumb so my ego likes this, lol.

[LSD-Rumi]

@Leo Gura I will see how deep I can  go  with this substance, I just did it a couple of times.

 

Edited March 24, 2023 by LSD-Rumi