Hamza being Hamza

[nhoktinvt]

just last night i approached a set of 3 girls and my opener was like "i want to have more experience with girls" and now hamza saying you gotta avoid girls because girls are distracting you from growing yourself as a man, and the high quality girls are attracted to "avoidance cold guys" , ok hamza

Edited March 24, 2023 by nhoktinvt

[SonataAllegro]

Hamza is a bit toxic but the advice still stands and is really the same thing Leo talks about: stop focusing on getting pussy and start living your life purpose. This is actually what makes you more attractive. You don't need to be cold and avoidant though, that would be taking it too far.

Also how did that opener go for you

Edited March 23, 2023 by SonataAllegro

[Leo Gura]

Girls are distracting, but you can't be serious forever. Let yourself enjoy life a little. 

The girl is your reward for a day of hard work.

Edited March 23, 2023 by Leo Gura

[Jacob Morres]

On 3/22/2023 at 3:03 PM, nhoktinvt said:

you gotta avoid girls because girls are distracting you from growing yourself as a man

it depends... some dudes dont need it at all. some dudes could benefit from some. some dudes could benefit from a lot of exp.

some dude might have a business to start or work on and has no time.

another dude might benefit because maybe he wants to meet some ppl to satisfy some social needs

a diff dude might need a ton of experience because he has very little exp and it makes sense for him

 

maybe for hamza who is going monk mode right now with his personal awakening - girls are just not it

 

Edited March 23, 2023 by Jacob Morres

[nhoktinvt]

@SonataAllegro they just stare, i keep talking after awhile i talked to another girl in that set, we build some rapport, she's 17 and she's a scorpion (astrology) 
her mom called (9pm) and they left 15min after, roughly

Edited March 24, 2023 by nhoktinvt

[Phil King]

Yeah hes definitely deluded about this. Hes saying that guys dont need experience with women yet he has had sex with hundreds of them. I actually went to a meetup with people in hamzas discord and they are exactly the type of people who need massive experience with women. Hes doing a disservice to his community because these young kids are not gonna talk to a girl for a decade and instead "grind on their business" and then when they feel their worthy of a women, theyll be incapable of keeping a high quality woman in a relationship. Hamza literally wouldnt be where he is today without going through a PUA stage.

 

[Miguel1]

Zero experience and avoiding girls will grow you as a man? This guy got it completely backward, what a joke.

First, grow a pair of balls to talk and flirt with the hottest girls around, look them deep in the eyes, and lead them to bed. Then, learn to remain grounded while doing so.

After that, you may have the right to argue that girls are distracting from your growth as a man.

[mr_engineer]

I agree with what he's saying. I make a similar point on this post. 

This is the dating-strategy that Hamza gives in this video! After trial and error, having been there, done that. 

I may not have the 'experience' that yall would like me to have. But, this guy does! And he agrees with me. 

[Optimized Life]

This guy's grift is nothing but raw extroversion, marketing and charisma, which he is undeniably a master at and I genuinely admire his intelligence in that regard. 

But he has said so much dumb and toxic shit and is so dogmatic and opinionated it's ridiculous. 

Making it in youtube is not about the quality of your information or content, but how convincing, entertaining charismatic you are, and how brutal you are at marketing and hijacking peoples attention. Hamza mastered all this, so I can't exactly say he doesn't deserve his success, but his impact is pretty toxic just like the majority of youtubers out there who just waste your time which repetitive clickbait and unfounded dogmatic nonsense. 

1. Dating and socialization will absolutely grow you as a man arguably more than anything else will, it can be risky, it can break you make you worse or lead to suicide, but like many things nothing easy or safe will give you the biggest gains. 

2. The majority of guys including myself, find it much, much harder to concentrate on work and motivate ourselves if we haven't had sex in weeks or months, and have no sex or human connection to look forward to in the evening, and feel lonely and unsatisfied. Likewise this also applies to having ecno friends and being a loner, and most people are at least ambiverts or in the middle so lack of friendship should be treated like a serious disease. But of course lack of women and friends are connected, not direct causation however strongly correlated because if you are seeing women most likely you are meeting more people and in turn should have more friends too, and nothing is more powerful than support, encouragement, connection, brotherhood, and then add on top of that great women in your life, social confidence, feeling masculine, not being needy, it's all a killer combination and absolutely will trickle down into other areas of life like business or public speaking, maybe you don't care, but I know myself and there's nothing more powerful drug than this. 

This unrealistic idea of "just focus on yourself for years and then become a millionaire and girls will come to you, simply doesn't work for MOST guys like myself, I CAN get myself to work despite the pain, but it is a lot harder and less likely, I have to force myself and really push myself, whereas if you know a nice girl is coming over you feel more motivated to make money, you are free of the heavy and dense emotions and probably won't be endlessly scrolling through porn, Instagram or tinder or even distraction yourself with lower pleasures like food or alcohol to compensate. 

3. EVEN IF you could just work on the business for years and go without women and it worked, you still fucking just missed years of your life enjoying the some of the greatest joys of life that there is, why not try to enjoy your life throughout your life rather than "once I'm successful", which could take longer than you hoped and then you would seriously regret. 

I am still quite young but I have some serious about giving up on dating in for months or years in my 20's, I got bitter and didn't have the pickup mindset and got really red pill "I gave up focusing on women because ... I'll focus on women when I have the money", this turned out to be toxic for me and ironically not scratching that itch sooner may have held me back from winning at business, led to more self sabotage, addictions, bad spending habits and bad decisions. 

4. The best thing I learnt from personal development is that success if fucking relative. I don't give a shit what Leo thinks or anyone else on here, the only metric for me winning and feeling proud is living how I want to live. And personally I want lots of experience with women, and relationships of all types, I want girlfriends and one night stands simultaneously and I want sex 2/3 times per day, and fun dates and deeper relationships too and everything in between. And I'll do all that while making good cash without becoming bill gates, steve jobs or Hamza, because I don't care and don't want their life. 

Edited March 27, 2023 by Optimized Life