Sleep vs Death

[Bruins8000]

In many corners of nonduality (I.E Rupert Spira) deep sleep and death are often compared. It’s explained that your “true self”/consciousness loses all the extra layers (relationships, desires, personal stories) in deep sleep and also in death. Of course deep sleep is temporary- it isn’t feared because you have the expectation of waking up again in the morning.

Why are deep sleep and death talked about by many as a way someone returns to their true self? Doesn’t that sound dualistic? There was never a someone to return to a true self- it’s all THIS. 

Also why is death talked about as no problem because it’s akin to deep sleep? As I said before you expect (most of the time) to return from deep sleep. In death we truly don’t know what occurs but returning to the physical life as you know it isn’t in the cards.

[OldManCorcoran]

Neither thing ever happens. It seems that it must when believing that there are beings who witness things, as you then have an appearing world and entities which see it. If you stop thinking of reality as witnesses which see things and objects which appear to them, you leave only the appearing world. Which is simply forms taken by existence itself.

In that way, if you walked past your front door this morning, you did not see your front door. The image of your front door appeared by itself to nobody... If you die right now, and someone else walks past your front door, it is identical to you seeing it, because neither of you ever see anything. In both instances the sight of your front door appeared and that was the only thing happening.

Wow.

And if every living being sees white light at the same time, that is when differentiation no longer exists. As then, in reality, would only be that one seen item with no multiplicity or differentiation. As soon as multiple egos and appearances appear, there is differentiation. And that is what we then like to term individuals and apply the idea of possessing consciousness to those individuals. Even though there is no such thing.

And it makes sense doesn't it. Rather than a world of dead matter and living creatures possessing consciousness. Instead merely a dead world by itself. All appearances are only forms taken by existence which appear but not to anybody. Our bodies and even internal minds as much a dead object as the sound of music or an atom.

[tuku747]

5 minutes ago, OldManCorcoran said:

Neither thing ever happens. It seems that it must when believing that there are beings who witness things, as you then have an appearing world and entities which see it. If you stop thinking of reality as witnesses which see things and objects which appear to them, you leave only the appearing world. Which is simply forms taken by existence itself.

In that way, if you walked past your front door this morning, you did not see your front door. The image of your front door appeared by itself to nobody... If you die right now, and someone else walks past your front door, it is identical to you seeing it, because neither of you ever see anything. In both instances the sight of your front door appeared and that was the only thing happening.

Wow.

And if every living being sees white light at the same time, that is when differentiation no longer exists. As then, in reality, would only be that one seen item with no multiplicity or differentiation. As soon as multiple egos and appearances appear, there is differentiation. And that is what we then like to term individuals and apply the idea of possessing consciousness to those individuals. Even though there is no such thing.

And it makes sense doesn't it. Rather than a world of dead matter and living creatures possessing consciousness. Instead merely a dead world by itself. All appearances are only forms taken by existence which appear but not to anybody. Our bodies and even internal minds as much a dead object as the sound of music or an atom.

I Am The Door ? 

Edited March 22, 2023 by tuku747

[tuku747]

Death is a relaxation of one's focus. No longer concerned with only this body; you remember it's always been like this.

[An young being]

After sleep, you don't remember you were aware during your sleep. After life, you are always aware, so you don't have to remember that you were.