A Bit Jealous Of Girls

[Leo Gura]

You don't appreciate that most women are NOT loved for who they are. Only the hottest girls. That leaves the other 90% unloved.

What you are saying is you wish you were a hot girl in the top 10%. Yeah, well, I wish I was born in the top 10% too.

These are silly things to wish for. The lives of most hot girls are actually miserable, because they are not forced to develop any character. It is foolish to wish for an easy life. Being loved for your beauty is not a good thing, it is actually a curse.

Edited March 18, 2023 by Leo Gura

[MarkKol]

3 hours ago, Something Funny said:

@NoSelfSelf @MarkKol do you know that both of you have retarded sense of humour? You should start a stand up comedy band together. 

I was actually being serious with that first statement (girls aren't loved for who they are, less so than guys) & girls being hot for playing video games and watching anime is kinda... nonsense.

I hope my girl doesn't play games, because neither do I. And most anime is just terrible (with some exceptions, I could count them on 10 fingers)

Edited March 18, 2023 by MarkKol

[Hardkill]

20 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

You don't appreciate that most women are NOT loved for who they are. Only the hottest girls. That leaves the other 90% unloved.

What you are saying is you wish you were a hot girl in the top 10%. Yeah, well, I wish I was born in the top 10% too.

These are silly things to wish for. The lives of most hot girls are actually miserable, because they are not forced to develop any character. It is foolish to wish for an easy life. Being loved for your beauty is not a good thing, it is actually a curse.

But aren't a lot of attractive girls hard working like all of those hot famous female celebrities? 

But yeah, I believe that actually most men wish they were the 10% of men. The alpha males and the highest status men in the world. I wish I was.

That's probably why guys like the Tate brothers are incredibly popular and have inspired millions of guys around the world.

Edited March 18, 2023 by Hardkill

[Leo Gura]

3 minutes ago, Hardkill said:

But aren't a lot of attractive girls hard working like all of those hot famous female celebrities? 

So few people are celebrities. And many of these celebrities are miserable people.

I don't think most hot girls work very hard.

Edited March 18, 2023 by Leo Gura

[Hardkill]

Just now, Leo Gura said:

So few people are celebrities. And many of these celebrities are miserable people.

Is that because most celebrities actually have weak character?

[Leo Gura]

Just now, Hardkill said:

Is that because most celebrities actually have weak character?

Celebrity is very corrupting. Celebrities aren't known for doing a lot of development work.

[Hardkill]

3 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Celebrity is very corrupting. Celebrities aren't known for doing a lot of development work.

So, that means that most celebrities are more rotten to the core than the average everyday person?

and what about all of these celebrities out there who say that they've been practicing transcendental meditation, religion, or some other kind of spiritual practice on a regular basis?

Edited March 18, 2023 by Hardkill

[Karmadhi]

38 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

You don't appreciate that most women are NOT loved for who they are. Only the hottest girls. That leaves the other 90% unloved.

What you are saying is you wish you were a hot girl in the top 10%. Yeah, well, I wish I was born in the top 10% too.

These are silly things to wish for. The lives of most hot girls are actually miserable, because they are not forced to develop any character. It is foolish to wish for an easy life. Being loved for your beauty is not a good thing, it is actually a curse.

Thing is that you do not need to be in the top 10% to actually have decent dating options as a girl. 

Even a relatively cute girl will have more options than most guys so by default they have it easier.

It is only the legit ugly girls that have it worse, I would say 80% of girls have it easier than 80% of guys. Or in other words only 20% of girls actually struggle compared to like 80% of guys.

I have plenty of female friends from all sorts of attractiveness ranges and honestly most of them get attention from pretty decent guys. Yes, they may not be a super mega player or millionare celebrity but they are usually kind, caring well put together smart guys that have shit going on their lives. 

Keep in mind most dating happens via online dating or social stuff and there a cute girl will do more than well enough. A girl does not need to get approached on a club or street to have dating options.

Edited March 18, 2023 by Karmadhi

[Leo Gura]

42 minutes ago, Hardkill said:

So, that means that most celebrities are more rotten to the core than the average everyday person?

I would say they are as rotten as the average person. But then money, power, sex, and fame corrupt them even further.

I have experienced a small bit of fame. It's extremely toxic and corrupting.

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and what about all of these celebrities out there who say that they've been practicing transcendental meditation, religion, or some other kind of spiritual practice on a regular basis?

This is the exception. And this tends to be older celebrities who have matured after a rather degenerate past.

Look at Russell Brand. He used to be heroin addict, now he has found God. Or look at Mike Tyson.

32 minutes ago, Karmadhi said:

Thing is that you do not need to be in the top 10% to actually have decent dating options as a girl. 

Even a relatively cute girl will have more options than most guys so by default they have it easier.

It is only the legit ugly girls that have it worse, I would say 80% of girls have it easier than 80% of guys. Or in other words only 20% of girls actually struggle compared to like 80% of guys.

No, your view is badly skewed. First off all, most girls are not cute. Cute is rare. Cute is top 20% at least.

Girls have it easier to get laid, but that doesn't mean they find good guys who don't just use them and move on.

You are biased because all you can think of is getting laid, but if you were a girl getting laid would not mean much to you, your need would be to find a stable guy who sticks around and doesn't just pump and dumb you, or makes you his side bitch.

Even as a hot girl many guys would just pump and dumb you.

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I have plenty of female friends from all sorts of attractiveness ranges and honestly most of them get attention from pretty decent guys. Yes, they may not be a super mega player or millionare celebrity but they are usually kind, caring well put together smart guys that have shit going on their lives.

Most women struggle to find quality guys. And as a girl, you would too. Even if you were hot. I promise you. You would get lots of sex but you would not be fulfilled and you certainly wouldn't be loved. And then all your beauty would fade and you would hate yourself.

You have a cartoon idea of what it's like to a woman. You couldn't even walk down a street at night without worrying about being raped.

You are envying a cartoon fantasy. Like, why wasn't I born Batman?

Edited March 19, 2023 by Leo Gura

[Jacob Morres]

34 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Girls have it easier to get laid, but that doesn't mean they find good guys who don't just use them and move on.

its hard to deny most girls generally have it easier when it comes to having options

But at the end of the day who cares. Tbh its not that hard to meet base checklists 

[Leo Gura]

6 minutes ago, Jacob Morres said:

its hard to deny most girls generally have it easier when it comes to having options

Options with douche bags and scrubs, yes. Lots of those. Quality men are scarce.

Edited March 19, 2023 by Leo Gura

[Jacob Morres]

@Leo Gura they got both bro, u ever see a regular lookin girl use hinge? 

When my sis was dating she used to get 10+ likes a day, and she's p avg looks wise (she did have a great profile). She could probably get a date a day if she wanted ..  

 

But it doesnt matter. All this thinking corrupts the mind. It's important to realize abundance regardless of your gender, and have healthy frameworks 

Instead of saying omg girls have it easy... 

You say, I'm so lucky to live in a city where there are tons of great people and women around me. I can't wait to meet them. Etc. 

Edited March 19, 2023 by Jacob Morres

[Leo Gura]

11 minutes ago, Jacob Morres said:

she used to get 10+ likes a day, and she's p avg looks wise (she did have a great profile). She could probably get a date a day if she wanted

Dude, getting likes from some desperate guys and a date means nothing to a girl.

Yes, if a girl goes to a bar she can get some random guy to fuck her. And? So what? This has nothing to do with a girl's real needs.

IF YOU WERE A GIRL, YOU WOULD HAVE VERY DIFFERENT NEEDS. You can't turn into a girl and also keep all the needs of a guy. This is fantasy. This is not how being a woman works. Everything would change for you.

You need to realize that you've fallen for a fantasy. This is the solution here.

It's like me saying, I wish I was a bird so I could fly. But being a bird sucks. You would lose all the good parts of being human. You would be miserable and starving out in cold and then a cat would eat you.

Edited March 19, 2023 by Leo Gura

[Danioover9000]

@Hardkill

1 hour ago, Hardkill said:

But aren't a lot of attractive girls hard working like all of those hot famous female celebrities? 

But yeah, I believe that actually most men wish they were the 10% of men. The alpha males and the highest status men in the world. I wish I was.

That's probably why guys like the Tate brothers are incredibly popular and have inspired millions of guys around the world.

   Only 5% of those 8/10,9/10 and 10/10 hot girls will be doing personal development work...but that's a very small number, most 90-95% of hot chicks won't be doing and self actualization work.

[Danioover9000]

@Something Funny

5 hours ago, Something Funny said:

Disclaimer: please don't take this post too seriously. It's more of me being temporarily depressed and wanting to whine for a bit rather than making some serious statement about society...

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I am kind of jealous of girls because they can be loved for who they are just by being there, just by the virtue of being a girl.

I wish I didn't have to push myself, get out of my comfort zone, work super hard on my confidence, social skills, becoming a millionaire (exaggerating here for a dramatic effect), etc., just to feel like I finally deserve some love and attention.

Even bad habits or "negative" personality traits that make a guy unattractive can make a girl seem even more desirable. For example if she is into computer games or anime or is kind of shy and introverted.

I imagine it must be cool to be regularly hit on, told that you look cute / pretty / beautiful, to always have some people who want to talk to you, etc. Sure, it must have its downsides and can probaably even get tiring but still...

And yeah, like Leo said in his pickup video it's great that a guy can increase his attractiveness a lot by working on himself. And I am all for that idea, sure. But sometimes I wish I could be loved the way I am right now.

   I can relate, empathize and understand, that jealousy and envy is and can be sometimes a big hurdle, BTW, is the second most evil and deep rooted negative emotion in human beings, second compared to Sadism/masochism, which is part of the 3 dark triads of personality types out there. So hang in there, and keep doing the inner work of resolving this feminine shadow of your ego that you yourself disown and schism apart from wakeful consciousness.

[Hardkill]

1 hour ago, Leo Gura said:

I would say they are as rotten as the average person. But then money, power, sex, and fame corrupt them even further.

I have experienced a small bit of fame. It's extremely toxic and corrupting.

This is the exception. And this tends to be older celebrities who have matured after a rather degenerate past.

Look at Russell Brand. He used to be heroin addict, now he has found God. Or look at Mike Tyson.

No, your view is badly skewed. First off all, most girls are not cute. Cute is rare. Cute is top 20% at least.

Girls have it easier to get laid, but that doesn't mean they find good guys who don't just use them and move on.

You are biased because all you can think of is getting laid, but if you were a girl getting laid would not mean much to you, your need would be to find a stable guy who sticks around and doesn't just pump and dumb you, or makes you his side bitch.

Even as a hot girl many guys would just pump and dumb you.

Most women struggle to find quality guys. And as a girl, you would too. Even if you were hot. I promise you. You would get lots of sex but you would not be fulfilled and you certainly wouldn't be loved. And then all your beauty would fade and you would hate yourself.

You have a cartoon idea of what it's like to a woman. You couldn't even walk down a street at night without worrying about being raped.

You are envying a cartoon fantasy. Like, why wasn't I born Batman?

I see.

many hot girls have also been abused physically and emotionally. Some have even almost been killed. This hot pornstar whose work I used to watch was severely traumatized by her ex who eventually was sent to prison and became suicidal:

Another attractive pornstar named August Ames, committed suicide at the age of only 23 years old:

Former Supergirl actress, Melissa Benoist, did a live instagram vid years ago about how she was a victim of domestic violence:

 

There of course been so many other attractive women in the sex work industry and showbiz industry who have been sexually assaulted or raped or traumatized in some way. Harvey Weinstein and a lot of other high status guys in the entertainment industry have hurt a lot of women they worked with in horrific ways.

Edited March 19, 2023 by Hardkill

[illusory]

6 hours ago, Something Funny said:

I imagine it must be cool to be regularly hit on, told that you look cute / pretty / beautiful, to always have some people who want to talk to you, etc. Sure, it must have its downsides and can probaably even get tiring but still...

Based on my experience visiting a tourist destination in Thailand over a year ago, I must say that I grew tired of the constant attention as a male.

In the span of four weeks, I went on dates with ten different girls I met through dating apps. Some dated me consistently throughout my holiday whilst some even wanted money in return for sex.

I received an overwhelming amount of attention from bar girls trying to hit on me, people trying to sell me things, and random individuals touching me without my consent. Girls were even hitting on me a the nightclub when I was with my date!
In one instance a girl even gave me her phone number whilst my date was standing right next to me in the nightclub.

I even experienced sexual assault from a couple of lady boys as well as unwanted touching from regular ladies.

Eventually, one of my dates took me to a different town where I was left alone, and it felt like a refreshing break from the constant attention.

This experience made me realize that wanting something that we do not have may not always be as appealing as it seems.

Although it is unfair that women receive most of the attention, I discovered that I could also grow tired of the opposite.

Perhaps taking a trip to a similar location like Thailand can provide some perspective for you, or when you in dire need of such attention?

Edited March 19, 2023 by illusory

[mmKay]

 

[Leo Gura]

One time I slept with an Instagram model. A 10. She was complaining to me how hard it was to be her. Because she has to reject guys 30 times a day. This is the reality of being a 10. Haha!

I did not feel sorry for her. But I would not trade places with her. She will never be as beautiful as my mind.

My new pickup line for 10s:

"You are almost as beautiful as my mind."

Edited March 19, 2023 by Leo Gura

[Something Funny]

3 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Girls have it easier to get laid, but that doesn't mean they find good guys who don't just use them and move on.

You are biased because all you can think of is getting laid, but if you were a girl getting laid would not mean much to you, your need would be to find a stable guy who sticks around and doesn't just pump and dumb you, or makes you his side bitch.

Even as a hot girl many guys would just pump and dumb you.

Idk, Leo. I don't care that much about getting laid and I feel like it's easy for a girl to find a long term relationship as well. 

Like all the girls at work, even those who are not conventionally attractive, and would be labelled a 3 or 4 on this forum have boyfriends. And it's not just about their looks. Like I said they have many qualaities that would make you totally undatable as a guy.

For example I have this one girl at work who plays video games, is fat, and even smells bad to a point where it's actually kind of a pain to sit next to her sometimes.  And yet... She has a boyfriend. And I am pretty sure she didn't have to do 10000 cold approaches to get him 

But in general I agree with you Leo and everyone here. This is a stupid thread and I might as well wish I was a Batman.