Rogan, Russel, call out of Bill Gates For Shifting Vaccine Rhetoric, Driven By Profit

[Epikur]

 

[aurum]

@Epikur

These critiques of Bill Gates are extremely misguided. Bad faith, conspiratorial, anti-establishment type of thinking.

[Leo Gura]

When you get Joe Rogan and Russell Brand together in one room mouthing off.... Dear God...

Edited March 14, 2023 by Leo Gura

[Epikur]

14 minutes ago, aurum said:

@Epikur

These critiques of Bill Gates are extremely misguided. Bad faith, conspiratorial, anti-establishment type of thinking.

Because the establishment lied so many times one has to start somewhere I guess. Some people want to know the truth but that is sometimes seen as a problem.

[aurum]

11 hours ago, Epikur said:

Because the establishment lied so many times one has to start somewhere I guess. Some people want to know the truth but that is sometimes seen as a problem.

The establishment has not lied any more times than anyone else around you that you know.

[Epikur]

2 hours ago, aurum said:

The establishment has not lied any more times than anyone else around you that you know.

If that is the case then I guess everything is ok. I thought for a moment they did lie a bit more but now I am happy to hear that.

[Leo Gura]

This notion that people are lying to you is so childish. It's not lying. People have very different worldviews, values, and perspectives.

The amount of BS within Russell Brand's or Joe Rogan's worldview is no less then Bill Gates or CNN. Everyone has their biases. To expect mainstream news to report things without bias or perspective is absurd. That is not possible.

Edited March 15, 2023 by Leo Gura

[Epikur]

18 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

This notion that people are lying to you is so childish. It's not lying. People have very different worldviews, values, and perspectives.

The amount of BS within Russell Brand's or Joe Rogan's worldview is no less then Bill Gates or CNN. Everyone has their biases. To expect mainstream news to report things without bias or perspective is absurd. That is not possible.

To expect not to call out their lies is also absurd

[Leo Gura]

3 hours ago, Epikur said:

To expect not to call out their lies is also absurd

You can start by calling out Rogan's and Russell's lies then.

Edited March 15, 2023 by Leo Gura

[zurew]

18 hours ago, Epikur said:

Some people want to know the truth but that is sometimes seen as a problem.

Creating an ego that revolves around "I am being anti establishment" makes it so that you won't be able to accept and stomach and acknowledge, when the establishment is right. 

18 hours ago, Epikur said:

Because the establishment lied so many times one has to start somewhere I guess. Some people want to know the truth but that is sometimes seen as a problem.

Besides these very vague and general statements, what tangible things or criticisms do you have that couldn't be applied to the anti establishment crowd if the same standards are applied?

[Epikur]

12 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

You can start by calling out Rogan's and Russell's lies then.

I have no problem with calling out both of them for their lies

 

[Epikur]

2 minutes ago, zurew said:

Creating an ego that revolves around "I am being anti establishment" makes it so that you won't be able to accept and stomach and acknowledge, when the establishment is right. 

Besides these very vague and general statements, what tangible things or criticisms do you have that couldn't be applied to the anti establishment crowd if the same standards are applied?

I accept when the establishment is right. I have no problem with accepting that.

I have the same and even more criticism of the anti establishment. Obviously they are posted here many times more already so it does not make sense for me to post it again but the establishment critique is not posted so much. 

[Tanz]

Every time Bill Gates opens his mouth, he doesn't sound authentic because he doesn't have the emotional intelligence to understand people. He's been living from the outside so much that I don't think he can communicate with his heart. This makes him hard to trust, which is why he was such a retard talking to people such as asking girls out. He was reported several times for sending weird emails asking his female employees out for dinner. 
I don't think he can ever fix himself because he's living in such a bubble being so rich.   

Even if his intentions are good he would not know how to get it out that way

Edited March 16, 2023 by Tanz

[mr_engineer]

I don't see the issue with being anti-establishment. Why is it so threatening to pro-establishment people, if they're so strong? And if the establishment is so strong and morally righteous and good. 

Maybe it's not that strong...? Maybe it's a house of cards. 

And by the way, Brand and Rogan will not have intelligent critiques of the establishment, because they're controlled opposition. They will embody strawmans of anti-establishment rhetoric. 

Edited March 17, 2023 by mr_engineer

[Tanz]

22 minutes ago, mr_engineer said:

And by the way, Brand and Rogan will not have intelligent critiques of the establishment, because they're controlled opposition. They will embody strawmans of anti-establishment rhetoric.

Interesting, what evidence do you have to derive this conclusion?  

[Leo Gura]

13 hours ago, Tanz said:

Every time Bill Gates opens his mouth, he doesn't sound authentic

He sounds perfectly authentic to me. He's just not some social media celebrity. He's a serious person. People who are chronically online have forgotten what a serious person looks like.

Sending an email to ask out an employee out for dinner? That's what you're gonna whine about? You understand that powerful and ambitious people like to fuck too? What do you want him to do, open a Tinder profile?

Edited March 17, 2023 by Leo Gura

[mr_engineer]

1 hour ago, Tanz said:

Interesting, what evidence do you have to derive this conclusion?  

There was a video of Rogan admitting that he will say anything he has to in order to get rich and famous. 

And, Brand pushed the idea of the New World Order. 

I can't recall links off the top of my head. It's just my two cents. 

[Tanz]

12 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Sending an email to ask out an employee out for dinner? That's what you're gonna whine about? You understand that powerful and ambitious people like to fuck too? What do you want him to do, open a Tinder profile?

lol im not whining about that, I am making a point of how socially retarded he is writing an email to ask someone out leaves a digital trail. If he is as intelligent in human nature as he is in business and lobbying, he would have asked to her to have a coffee with him to discuss something related to work.  Spend time getting to know them, and if he felt anything, go further.  

Heck, if he wanted a good fuck he would spend a few hundred thousand dollars on a party, hire a super hot escort to the party to raise his status and then girls would be more interested in him.  There are so many ways for the dude to get laid in much easier ways than an awkward email from your boss.  

Dude could even spend money and hire Tony Robbins to coach him on how to develop himself in communicating and getting girls but Billy isn't the type to do that.
They just don't build people with everything; Bill Gates has a few screws loose, is what I am trying to say.  I'm not insisting he is inauthentic I am just making a point that people perceive him that way.  

[Leo Gura]

@Tanz Yes, he could do all that, but you're basically criticizing him for not being more manipulative and sneaky.

If you're gonna criticize Bill Gates, you should at least go with the Jeffery Epstein angle. If that one were true, that would be a serious criticism. The other criticisms of him I don't find to be serious. Then again, you could be smearing an innocent man as a pedophile.

People LOVE to hate on Bill Gates even more than they love to hate on CNN. They hate him because they need someone to blame all their political problem on, and they are too simple-minded to understand the complex realities of politics.

Edited March 17, 2023 by Leo Gura

[Tanz]

On 17/03/2023 at 3:16 PM, Leo Gura said:

People LOVE to hate on Bill Gates even more than they love to hate on CNN. They hate him because they need someone to blame all their political problem on, and they are too simple-minded to understand the complex realities of politics.

People love to hate CNN because their expectations are higher than something trashy like Fox.  We can say the same for Gates; IF he adamantly urged Pfizer to release the patent on the vaccine after making billions on it already then people would sense he cares about doing the right thing more than making millions. He panders to wealth and power because he recognizes them as "his own".  I know it's not his style to call out anyone but when I reporter asks you on national news it's easy to be a politician without being excessive instead, he quickly says strongly no to moralistic questions.  
 

 

On 17/03/2023 at 3:16 PM, Leo Gura said:

Yes, he could do all that, but you're basically criticizing him for not being more manipulative and sneaky.

lol that is a good point but I was just using an example.  His popularity would increase if he was someone that is like Leonardo Dicaprio who womanizes and doesn't hide that he prefers younger women.  Granted, women are more likely to jump at Dicaprio naked rather than Gates but there is a science to how people carry themselves, Gates doesn't happen to be one that knows how to do that well; that's kind of my point rather than saying he's a terrible person.  

Im not employing people to Bill Gates's level nor doing anything for society at scale, at the very least even if he has insidious intentions he's doing far more for people than the average person.  As is any billionaire including Musk whom the left is attacking.  

 

Edited March 18, 2023 by Tanz