The Forum is not good for making money, a critical part of Spirituality

[supremeyingyang]

2 hours ago, Girzo said:

@supremeyingyang It is quite shallow in a sense, a lot of immature people browsing it and posting there. Very ideological place and the books are full of ideology, too. But I don't know the names of places where more mature entrepreneurs meet, so I will upkeep your recommendation. It's quite ok, and may be life-changing for people who have no experience with business/management.

Yes, you are right.

[mmKay]

20 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

You should join some money-making forum in addition to this one, so it rounds you out.

any recommendations anyone?

[flowboy]

14 minutes ago, mmKay said:

any recommendations anyone?

the fastlane forum, it was already mentioned.

[integral]

13 hours ago, Girzo said:

@supremeyingyang It is quite shallow in a sense, a lot of immature people browsing it and posting there. Very ideological place and the books are full of ideology, too. But I don't know the names of places where more mature entrepreneurs meet, so I will upkeep your recommendation. It's quite ok, and may be life-changing for people who have no experience with business/management.

@Leo Gura This is the main reason i wanted actualized.org to have it, we already have the dating section that has nothing to do with metaphysics, im not seeing why we cant incorporate high quality business topics in the Entrepreneurship section? 

Edited March 13, 2023 by integral

[integral]

3 hours ago, flowboy said:

the fastlane forum, it was already mentioned.

On page load the forum triggered my porn blocker lol 

[flowboy]

Just now, integral said:

On page load the forum triggered my porn blocker lol 

Because porn is the best way to make money

[flowboy]

@integral It loads fine for me, must be a misfire because the word "porn" is mentioned in a topic title:

[Leo Gura]

28 minutes ago, integral said:

im not seeing why we cant incorporate high quality business topics in the Entrepreneurship section?

1) No one is stopping you.

2) People here are just not that business savvy. Because they are focused on other things.

[Something Funny]

13 hours ago, Girzo said:

the books are full of ideology

You mean Leo's booklist?

[supremeyingyang]

44 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

1) No one is stopping you.

2) People here are just not that business savvy. Because they are focused on other things.

And so began the great age of Entrepreneurs...

[ZenAlex]

I think OP expects this place to be the holy grail of knowledge.

[supremeyingyang]

1 hour ago, ZenAlex said:

I think OP expects this place to be the holy grail of knowledge.

I don't think so, it's more a Vision for the future.

[puporing]

@integral What questions do you have regarding finance/business? I will try to answer if you post them. 

I think some of us are in a more comfortable/settled position right now that might be why..

Edited March 13, 2023 by puporing

[Girzo]

7 hours ago, Something Funny said:

You mean Leo's booklist?

No. I am talking about The Millionaire Fastlane by MJ DeMarco, and other books of the same author, who is the creator and administrator of the aforementioned The Fastlane Forum.

[integral]

5 hours ago, puporing said:

@integral What questions do you have regarding finance/business? I will try to answer if you post them. 

I think some of us are in a more comfortable/settled position right now that might be why..

I'm also in a comfortable position, but i want to create and invent things, i have millions of ideas but the journey getting it from start to finish I know will cost significant financial investment and time, then years into production after release i would then know if there is even a market for it.

Right now im interested in building a stress monitor that track breath rate and that provides stress protection on all devices, so if your stressed it will black out the screen of the device being used. This is for people serious about stress management, recognize they have an problem/addiction, its also for gamers that want to optimize there flow state by making all experiences in front of the computer stress free, as the device would prevent using the computer in a stressed state, the point being promoting good training vs bad training.

The development for this would likely take 6 months for the hardware, software and web technology, then after prototype is built(with significant issues im sure) the biggest issue im having is how to cheaply produce the hardware components from china (no idea how)? Then 99% of the sales come from marketing and sooo... what i market on tiktok?

From having no experience doing all this it all feels very unlikely to succeed especially the marketing part, and i know from software/hardware experience the device itself with very likely be buggy that takes an extra 3 months to resolve with all the complications with cheap parts.

Im not seeing how people succeed at any of this.

Edited March 13, 2023 by integral

[puporing]

@integral If it's like a "true calling" then you would just follow through and be willing to not get paid even for some time on it. It's true many business owners (to start) do not pay themselves and have to work another job while working on their business, I'm not saying that's ideal or anything but that's the reality we live in right now. But I'd still be smart about it before investing in anything too large of your personal funds. You can always start with working with a "startup incubator" organization and test people's reactions to your ideas. And so it depends on your priorities. Some people are in a more "well off" position and they are okay with potentially losing thousands on a business idea just to launch something of their passion; others are more looking for a stable income in which case you would be a lot more careful/conservative about what business to get into in the first place. So the questions to ask yourself...

What is my primary goal for getting into this? (eg, to replace my current job? to pursue a passion project even if it doesn't "work out"?) Those two things can give you different answers/approaches.

And if you're not in the position to just quit your job for a few years for this then yeah I would be more strategic about it (eg, testing in smaller scale).

Also there are some room to play if you incorporate early on and that way if things don't work out (lets say you get on a business loan) it doesn't affect all your personal funds. I would consult a professional on this though as I haven't done incorporation or riskier kinds of business but I've talked to people who have and that's how they reduce risks.

Edited March 13, 2023 by puporing

[supremeyingyang]

@integral

How about we think about an action point to make change in the forum happen via interesting threads. That way you learn marketing (copy writing, writing articles, actracting a attention, make people do something...).

My Proposal: One week for us two to design one quality thread each, then we show each other the Starter post pre release, make it better from it and see what happens. Then the same process 2 weeks later. Details are of course made up on the fly and 100% debateable. 

DO YOU WANT TO ROLL?

Edited March 14, 2023 by supremeyingyang
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[Something Funny]

14 hours ago, Girzo said:

No. I am talking about The Millionaire Fastlane by MJ DeMarco, and other books of the same author, who is the creator and administrator of the aforementioned The Fastlane Forum.

Sorry, I must have been sleep deprived. Idk why I thought that you refer to this forum

Edit:

I've checked it out and wow there are lots of posts there of people sharing their stories about how they've made a bunch of money rather quickly with minimum skills. Like the examples below:

https://www.thefastlaneforum.com/community/threads/how-to-create-a-2k-mo-passive-income-website-in-30-days-or-less.107531/

https://www.thefastlaneforum.com/community/threads/earning-5-5k-mo-at-16-im-doing-it.107383/

Is this real or is this some sort of scam to promote books or whatever they are selling on that forum? Stories sound legit, but also kind of too good to be true?

 

@Girzo @supremeyingyang @flowboy any advise, please? Are those forum/books/threads/money making methods like this (create your own digital marketing agency with no marketing knowledge by hiring a contractor to do the work for you or create some bullshit digital product in 20 minutes and sell it through google adds) something that is actually worth checking out and trying to replicate (if I throw all the ideology out of it) or is it a waste of time and I should stick to Leo's advise of trying to find my life purpose, developing mastery in something, etc.?

@Leo Gura could you share your opinion on this as well? You've also gotten out of wage slavery by starting some sort of digital marketing business, right?

Edited March 14, 2023 by Something Funny

[supremeyingyang]

1 hour ago, Something Funny said:

@Girzo @supremeyingyang @flowboy any advise, please? Are those forum/books/threads/money making methods like this (create your own digital marketing agency with no marketing knowledge by hiring a contractor to do the work for you or create some bullshit digital product in 20 minutes and sell it through google adds) something that is actually worth checking out and trying to replicate (if I throw all the ideology out of it) or is it a waste of time and I should stick to Leo's advise of trying to find my life purpose, developing mastery in something, etc.?

I'm an adept in this, meaning I hold a job, not a business (some day in the near future...!) BUT I see the kind of Ideas you presented only as time restricted opportunities. If it's low skill/ low barrier someone will come in and make it cheaper. So with that you are always hopping. Or you make it one time super big. Hoewever, in my estimation is education and skill key, so I'd advice you to reeducate until you can earn A LOT of money with a job and then you have capital and skill to seek adventure. Programming is the posterchild skill - in demand, rewarding and universally reuseable)))))

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[MarkKol]

1 hour ago, Something Funny said:

create your own digital marketing agency with no marketing knowledge by hiring a contractor to do the work for you or create some bullshit digital product in 20 minutes and sell it through google adds

Have some Integrity, the best way to get rich is to truly be creative, an awesome idea that puts value on the table. 

I don't even look at "Ways to get rich", I'm not interested in replica methods. 

If you're searching google & YT for "Money making methods", You're just not getting it.

In my personal experience, great ideas surface when my brain manages to connect the dots between multiple things and go "Is that possible?"