Someone advanced spiritually was an asshole to me

[LSD-Rumi]

Hi

I want to discuss a recent event that happened with one of the forum members here. He basically sent a message to me asking for my experience with acid. I told him multiple times I was mentally ill now and I cannot discuss this now. Anyways I decided to talk to him. I started discussing some of the strange thing I experienced. I felt a certain feel of ego inflation to be honest, but I was depressed and mentally ill and I was in a very bad state. Anyways, he said meh this is nothing. I know he was tessting me but I wrote, you are either advanced or a an idiot. He said that he was testing me and I failed. He was harsh in general in his style. I wrote to him that  you need to be more gentle and I was mentally ill and not in my best attitude.

Anyways, recently I made a post discussing some material I discoveres called PEA. he wrote to He doesn't trust anything I wrote in avery harsh way. I said to him I am mentally ill but I am not a child rapist, and that he needs to be more gentle with people. I also wrote that people should do their own research before they try it.

To be honest, he hurt me a lot consider I was very sensitive in that period. Now in this state I am in, I feel awesome and confident, so I sent a message to him, explaining my experience and advicing him to be more gentle. He didn't say anything and left the conversation.

So my question is,  how can a person be so spiritually develop and be an asshole in the sametime. I know it is not necessarly related but the more work I don in spirituality, the more related I think they are.

So what do you think guys?

TLTR: A guy in this forum was an asshole to me, and I am confused.

Edited March 10, 2023 by LSD-Rumi

[Godishere]

Because traumatized egos masquerade as Spiritual teachers who claim to know something you don't 

Search up narcissistic personality disorder 

Edited March 10, 2023 by Godishere

[Gesundheit2]

Develop a thick skin and don't take it personally. It's generally better to have a thick skin, and wiser to not take anything personally. Most of the times, people express who they are rather than the truth, so what they say is rarely true anyway.

[LSD-Rumi]

2 minutes ago, Gesundheit2 said:

Develop a thick skin and don't take it personally. It's generally better to have a thick skin, and wiser to not take anything personally. Most of the times, people express who they are rather than the truth, so what they say is rarely true anyway.

When you are depressed and mentally ill, you are very weak and sensitive.

[Gesundheit2]

@LSD-Rumi I understand that. But life goes on. You will forget what happened and become stronger if you believe in yourself. Give yourself some time to process what happened. You will be fine.

Edited March 10, 2023 by Gesundheit2

[WelcometoReality]

2 hours ago, LSD-Rumi said:

So what do you think guys?

Just because someone had a profound awakening experience doesn't mean he has embodied it.

After my first awakening I had alot of anger coming up and became very reactive towards people. To be honest I felt like I had taken a huge leap forward with my awakening but then ten steps back with all negative emotions that came afterwards.

 

[Carl-Richard]

If somebody poses as highly conscious but you feel that something is off, you're probably correct.

[Nilsi]

2 hours ago, Carl-Richard said:

If somebody poses as highly conscious but you feel that something is off, you're probably correct.

Or you're too biased and self-deceived to see through the facade.

That attitude certainly skyrockets your odds of further deceiving yourself.

I obviously don't want to white wash harassment and abuse, but your proposal is dangerous in it's own way.

Edited March 10, 2023 by Nilsi

[Inliytened1]

You can be advanced spiritually and still an asshole.  But this person obviously lacked compassion for you and understanding, so in my opinion  isn't really that advanced.  If he was he would have shown humility and when you told him you were in a bad place, he would have been able to apologize.   If he didn't do this he's not as advanced as you think. A big sign of spiritual advancement is flexibility.   You can be many things - your identity isn't set in stone.  If he didn't display any flexibility, he probably isn't that advanced or awake at all.

Edited March 10, 2023 by Inliytened1

[Carl-Richard]

12 minutes ago, Nilsi said:

Or you're too biased and self-deceived to see through the facade.

That attitude certainly skyrockets your odds of further deceiving yourself.

I obviously don't want to white wash harassment and abuse, but your proposal is dangerous in it's own way.

Sure, the guy was in a mentally unstable place, so he was more sensitive than usual. But if you're not severely interpersonally challenged or consistently delusional, it's not hard to know when you're being treated like shit, and highly conscious people generally don't treat people like shit. Or at least I don't care about that definition of high consciousness.

[Nilsi]

15 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

Sure, the guy was in a mentally unstable place, so he was more sensitive than usual. But if you're not severely interpersonally challenged or consistently delusional, it's not hard to know when you're being treated like shit, and highly conscious people generally don't treat people like shit. Or at least I don't care about that definition of high consciousness.

It's not about being an asshole and treating others poorly - it's about seeing through these relative notions.

I'm not telling you anything new, when I say that the integration of shadow material is an important part of becoming more conscious - and the negligence of this will certainly bottleneck your development at some point.

Regardless of what this person's behavior says about their level of consciousness -- what does your combative and morally righteous stance towards such behavior say about your level of consciousness?

Edited March 10, 2023 by Nilsi

[Thought Art]

How we perceive others is often inaccurate and at least partial 

Edited March 10, 2023 by Thought Art

[Carl-Richard]

55 minutes ago, Nilsi said:

It's not about being an asshole and treating others poorly - it's about seeing through these relative notions.

Understanding relativity does not mean a lack of discernment.

 

55 minutes ago, Nilsi said:

I'm not telling you anything new, when I say that the integration of shadow material is an important part of becoming more conscious - and the negligence of this will certainly bottleneck your development at some point.

Having to integrate your shadow means you're not highly conscious.

 

55 minutes ago, Nilsi said:

Regardless of what this person's behavior says about their level of consciousness -- what does your combative and morally righteous stance towards such behavior say about your level of consciousness?

I just think highly conscious people act a certain way.

Edited March 10, 2023 by Carl-Richard

[Yimpa]

Just wanted to remind people that private messages can be read (I’m assuming by Leo and moderators) as explicitly stated in the community guidelines.

In short, don’t be an asshat and think you can get away with it!

[Nilsi]

28 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

Having to integrate your shadow means you're not highly conscious.

I call bs.

Do you seriously believe there will come a point in your life at which you are "fully integrated?"

When you're fully awake, there will only be light - but once that experience fades, there will be shadow again -- obviously.

28 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

I just think highly conscious people act a certain way.

That's the mistake.

Edited March 10, 2023 by Nilsi

[Yimpa]

6 minutes ago, Nilsi said:

When you're fully awake, there will only be light - but once that experience fades, there will be shadow again -- obviously.

No.

[UnbornTao]

You hold certain ideals about what it means to be spiritually advanced, whatever that is. So drop them and relate to the person in front of you, rather than to your expectations of how another should behave.

Edited March 10, 2023 by UnbornTao

[Yimpa]

2 minutes ago, UnbornTao said:

You hold certain ideals about what it means to be spiritually advanced, whatever that means. So drop them and relate to the person in front of you, rather than to your expectations of how another should behave.

Thank you! I was actually speaking about this with my therapist this week, and she echoed a similar sentiment. 

I also used to think that I should only keep people in my life who had the same exact beliefs and worldview that I do, but now I’m realizing that that’s limiting my growth and understanding of myself. 

[Carl-Richard]

46 minutes ago, Nilsi said:

I call bs.

Do you seriously believe there will come a point in your life at which you are "fully integrated?"

When you're fully awake, there will only be light - but once that experience fades, there will be shadow again -- obviously.

Less integrated = less conscious.

 

47 minutes ago, Nilsi said:

That's the mistake.

Do you think unconscious people act a certain way?

[LSD-Rumi]

23 minutes ago, UnbornTao said:

You hold certain ideals about what it means to be spiritually advanced, whatever that means. So drop them and relate to the person in front of you, rather than to your expectations of how another should behave.

Yeah I just him based on claims he made, he may not be as conscious as he claims, You cannot really judge people online. I am aware of that.