What is causing the teen mental health crisis?

[spiritual memes]

Lol what isn't

[spiritual memes]

1 hour ago, Emerald said:

What I’m saying is that these things would all affect teens equally across gender and political preference lines.

So, it doesn’t account for more liberal girls to have the highest depression rates, because they probably consume Tik Tok at similar rates to boys and conservatives.

There's less stigma for mental health issues for liberals and girls so they may just be reporting it more.

[Danioover9000]

@Emerald

1 hour ago, Emerald said:

What I’m saying is that these things would all affect teens equally across gender and political preference lines.

So, it doesn’t account for more liberal girls to have the highest depression rates, because they probably consume Tik Tok at similar rates to boys and conservatives.

   However, the greater factor here is the design of Tik Tok being the maximum attention holding app in existence, designed to hijack one's reptilian brain, making them spend more time in Tik Tok, without in app time clock to keep track of time, full screen shorts very easy scroll ups, and an algorithm that hyper tailors content watched based on time spent watching and clicking, auto correcting image profile A.I that increases self consciousness and Narcissism, and the ADD/ADHD negative effects of prolonged watching, are dangerous. Preexisting factors of a person like their value systems, cognitive and moral development, personality type and traits and personality traits developed with internet use, states of being, life experiences and other lines of development, and ideology indoctrinated into your mind, all these factors get amplified by Tik Tok especially, never mind other social media sites out there. Regardless of your political views, you could be a white supremist/Nazi girl/guy, or a Marxist, or socialist, or progressive, or conservative, or liberal, or libertarian, no matter, Tik Tok will serve more content that matches your biases and preferences so well that it knows more about you, than what you know about yourself. Tik and overuse of social media are factors that multiply any hidden preexisting factors.

[Danioover9000]

1 minute ago, Danioover9000 said:

@Emerald

   However, the greater factor here is the design of Tik Tok being the maximum attention holding app in existence, designed to hijack one's reptilian brain, making them spend more time in Tik Tok, without in app time clock to keep track of time, full screen shorts very easy scroll ups, and an algorithm that hyper tailors content watched based on time spent watching and clicking, auto correcting image profile A.I that increases self consciousness and Narcissism, and the ADD/ADHD negative effects of prolonged watching, are dangerous. Preexisting factors of a person like their value systems, cognitive and moral development, personality type and traits and personality traits developed with internet use, states of being, life experiences and other lines of development, and ideology indoctrinated into your mind, all these factors get amplified by Tik Tok especially, never mind other social media sites out there. Regardless of your political views, you could be a white supremist/Nazi girl/guy, or a Marxist, or socialist, or progressive, or conservative, or liberal, or libertarian, no matter, Tik Tok will serve more content that matches your biases and preferences so well that it knows more about you, than what you know about yourself. Tik and overuse of social media are factors that multiply any hidden preexisting factors.

   So, the real main issue is this: How can America deal with Tik Tok, especially given that ByteDance is now slowly buying up the music markets and gaming markets for Tik Tok, slowly stealing talent away from other fields and funneling them into Tik Tok?

   What can the government do to make sure the next few generations aren't epistemically screwed by this Tik Tok?

[hoodrow trillson]

Shitty ass parents.

[Ayham]

SImple!
stage orange and blue brainwashing depending on culture
lack of meaning and purpose
social media

[Jodistrict]

The culture is toxic and the social media is amplifying the toxicity.  Communities and families are fragmented and everyone is living alone.   It is easier to see this with food.  One projection says that by 2035 more than half the global population will be obese.   This can be directly linked to poisonous processed food which is full of chemicals, empty calories, and sugar.   Look at pictures of the 1940s where almost everyone was mean and lean.  That was in the days when house wives would cook everything from scratch – no processed food.
 
 

[Raze]

12 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

So many people live such shallow lives, without any sense of life purpose or philosophical depth. Of course you will be depressed that way.

What do most teens live for? Games? Porn? Parties? Sex? Online content? Likes? Approval from friends?

All of that is trash.

But then why is it getting worse? Teens aren’t necessary becoming less philosophical.

[Danioover9000]

@Raze

50 minutes ago, Raze said:

But then why is it getting worse? Teens aren’t necessary becoming less philosophical.

   Tik Tok, and overuse of social media. Also  a bad diet might as well.

[mr_engineer]

18 hours ago, Raze said:

The risk factors seem to be being white, female, and liberal

The woke crowd can be very cynical. They can perceive a lot of problems but they don't have any solutions to them. So, this negative role-modelling from woke adults is not doing teens any favors. 

18 hours ago, Raze said:

Interestingly, conservative girls report less depressive symptoms than liberal males

This is because of feminist propaganda. It has viciously attacked and stigmatized masculinity and masculine behavior in the past couple of decades, because of which liberal boys, who don't want to exhibit 'toxic masculinity', because they're aware of the problems with that, are left with one option - to turn against their masculinity. Boys are being taught right now that being male is bad. That will cause depression. 

Redpill spaces talk about some brutal truths about women and dating. Watching that content is a hit or miss. You watch someone good, you're gonna be fine. You watch Andrew Tate, you're in trouble. What they get right, though, is that feminism is the enemy of masculinity in men. All masculinity, toxic and healthy. Which is why their positioning as a reactionary movement makes sense. 

And, conservative girls are in touch with their femininity. So, they have good, well-defined principles in dealing with boys. They're more respectable to men, which is why they're going to have less depression. 

[Danioover9000]

@mr_engineer

4 minutes ago, mr_engineer said:

The woke crowd can be very cynical. They can perceive a lot of problems but they don't have any solutions to them. So, this negative role-modelling from woke adults is not doing teens any favors. 

This is because of feminist propaganda. It has viciously attacked and stigmatized masculinity and masculine behavior in the past couple of decades, because of which liberal boys, who don't want to exhibit 'toxic masculinity', because they're aware of the problems with that, are left with one option - to turn against their masculinity. Boys are being taught right now that being male is bad. That will cause depression. 

Redpill spaces talk about some brutal truths about women and dating. Watching that content is a hit or miss. You watch someone good, you're gonna be fine. You watch Andrew Tate, you're in trouble. What they get right, though, is that feminism is the enemy of masculinity in men. All masculinity, toxic and healthy. Which is why their positioning as a reactionary movement makes sense. 

And, conservative girls are in touch with their femininity. So, they have good, well-defined principles in dealing with boys. They're more respectable to men, which is why they're going to have less depression. 

   Yeah, so much for post modernism being highly evolved.

   BTW, is this your anniversary for joining the red pill and guy issues movement?

[mr_engineer]

1 minute ago, Danioover9000 said:

@mr_engineer

   Yeah, so much for post modernism being highly evolved.

   BTW, is this your anniversary for joining the red pill and guy issues movement?

I hold Stage Green people to a higher standard than people from the previous stages. Which is why my criticisms for them can be harsher. I think they should know better than what they're doing right now. I don't think the same about the other stages. 

I have a troll-face as my profile-pic. I hold no loyalty to any movement. I have plenty of criticisms of the bro-culture and pick-up as well! 

[Devin]

         It's a social awakening to the emptiness of individualism, combined with inept mental "health" professionals treating depression(which is a symptom not a disease) instead of addressing the issue. I sympathize for everyone struggling, but societally speaking this is growing pains.

[Danioover9000]

@mr_engineer

2 hours ago, mr_engineer said:

I hold Stage Green people to a higher standard than people from the previous stages. Which is why my criticisms for them can be harsher. I think they should know better than what they're doing right now. I don't think the same about the other stages. 

I have a troll-face as my profile-pic. I hold no loyalty to any movement. I have plenty of criticisms of the bro-culture and pick-up as well! 

   What are your criticisms of the bro-culture and PUA?

   Why do you hold no loyalty to any movement?

   Or, is your criticisms of stage green being harsher, is a way of trolling stage green's emotional sensitivity? Since you are part of the trolling movement right?

[Devin]

       I really think you all too easily group people into green, a woman being a neo feminist isn't green, that's her own selfish interest not equality, same for minority or young progressives, that's their own selfish interests not equality.

[Hardkill]

11 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Very dubious.

More like force them into toxic Red, Blue, and Orange.

Miserable people are not gonna be climbing the Spiral. They will be spiraling into fascism instead.

Weren't all leaders of historic movements such as Frederick Douglas, leaders of the Populist Party, MLK, leaders of the feminists movements all so miserable?

[Danioover9000]

@Hardkill

11 minutes ago, Hardkill said:

Weren't all leaders of historic movements such as Frederick Douglas, leaders of the Populist Party, MLK, leaders of the feminists movements all so miserable?

   Of course they were, given how harsh the world then is compared to the world we live in today.

[Hardkill]

2 minutes ago, Danioover9000 said:

@Hardkill

   Of course they were, given how harsh the world then is compared to the world we live in today.

Yeah, so I am skeptical about the idea that being miserable necessarily makes you more likely to become some kind of fascist or psycho.

[Danioover9000]

@Hardkill

Just now, Hardkill said:

Yeah, so I am skeptical about the idea that being miserable necessarily makes you more likely to become some kind of fascist or psycho.

    Not so simple, that can sometimes happen too. 

[Leo Gura]

4 hours ago, Raze said:

But then why is it getting worse? Teens aren’t necessary becoming less philosophical.

Yes they are. Traditional religion has been replaced with crap like TikTok. Most people got their values, purpose, and philosophy from following tradition. That has been erroded by liberalism.

7 hours ago, Emerald said:

What I’m saying is that these things would all affect teens equally across gender and political preference lines.

So, it doesn’t account for more liberal girls to have the highest depression rates, because they probably consume Tik Tok at similar rates to boys and conservatives.

It makes sense that liberals get the worst of it, because they have no tradition anchoring them. Conservatives and traditionalists will be less prone to meaningless shallow materialistic lives.

Think of what happens when you replace church with MTV, Fortnite, Instagram, porn, and rap music.

Most people are incapable of creating their own purpose, values, and philosophy.

Edited March 6, 2023 by Leo Gura