Dangers of social isolation

[Chives99]

Was just watching this british documentary on incels and the people in all claim they havent spoken to people apart from their family in years, some dropped out of school and became a recluse, when you're so disconnected from everyone the mind starts to feel like it doesnt belong and that everyone is a potential threat if you cant interact with them, which is why such crazy ideologies emerge. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kReeoKoOvZI

Edited March 2, 2023 by Chives99

[Emerald]

I’m unable to watch it because it’s not viewable from the U.S.

But it is pretty awful. Isolation breeds lots of feelings of exile and shame.

And those feelings get projected out onto women and potentially others as well because certain scapegoating narratives are constructed to channel the feelings of angst towards an external target.

And it all dovetails very nicely with Fascistic movements.

[Danioover9000]

@Chives99

On 3/2/2023 at 9:09 AM, Chives99 said:

Was just watching this british documentary on incels and the people in all claim they havent spoken to people apart from their family in years, some dropped out of school and became a recluse, when you're so disconnected from everyone the mind starts to feel like it doesnt belong and that everyone is a potential threat if you cant interact with them, which is why such crazy ideologies emerge. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kReeoKoOvZI

   I speak for myself mostly, and I may overestimate the dangers of social isolation here, but it never really bothered me that much, especially because I have higher value systems, I think differently and make sense of reality in different ways, am morally developed enough but my circle of concern not that big enough that I'm concerned with other communities, or parts of my own community, am introverted in personality trait among other types and traits, have different states of consciousness and have paranormal and supernatural experiences, well lived life experiences around the world, and other lines of development in areas of my life that makes me more unique and resilient to loneliness. In fact my mind LOVES LONELINESS, it feeds off of the isolation, and I enter into states of creativity and higher consciousness that most people can't relate to or access soberly.

   I don't even care for dating, short term or long term relationships. It doesn't matter to me if I fail to get a one night stand, or dancing body to body with a potential GF in a nightclub, not getting a number. The loneliness actually helps me reset. In fact, I am the happiest Incel of them all. I just, like I can understand their loneliness problems to a degree, but I can't empathize with them struggling with being alone. It just invigorates my soul.

   And, of course, a healthy porn and fapping habit helps, and a high quality pillow to boot, can help too.

[Chives99]

18 hours ago, Danioover9000 said:

@Chives99

   I speak for myself mostly, and I may overestimate the dangers of social isolation here, but it never really bothered me that much, especially because I have higher value systems, I think differently and make sense of reality in different ways, am morally developed enough but my circle of concern not that big enough that I'm concerned with other communities, or parts of my own community, am introverted in personality trait among other types and traits, have different states of consciousness and have paranormal and supernatural experiences, well lived life experiences around the world, and other lines of development in areas of my life that makes me more unique and resilient to loneliness. In fact my mind LOVES LONELINESS, it feeds off of the isolation, and I enter into states of creativity and higher consciousness that most people can't relate to or access soberly.

   I don't even care for dating, short term or long term relationships. It doesn't matter to me if I fail to get a one night stand, or dancing body to body with a potential GF in a nightclub, not getting a number. The loneliness actually helps me reset. In fact, I am the happiest Incel of them all. I just, like I can understand their loneliness problems to a degree, but I can't empathize with them struggling with being alone. It just invigorates my soul.

   And, of course, a healthy porn and fapping habit helps, and a high quality pillow to boot, can help too.

I have friend from denmark thats sounds very much the same he doesnt hang out with people outside of his family and hes really emotionally intelligent, I can tell he really gets people and people opened up to him so easily when i was at uni,  I  feel that when you are not needing things from people its easy to be empathetic , although he has anxiety and shy with talking to new people, but yet doesnt crave connection, must be nice to be free of that need.

[The Mystical Man]

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I’m unable to watch it because it’s not viewable from the U.S

It's not available in Germany, either.

You can watch it here: Inside the Secret World of Incels

Edited March 4, 2023 by The Mystical Man

[supremeyingyang]

@Chives99  Forgot to watch this, I do this now as I own a VPN, haha. I report my findings in an hour;)

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- D at the beginning should start off finding and holding a physical demanding job like putting packages in the amazon truck 8h a day, 6 days a week plus some martial art and then we'll see if his incelness can survive one summer... ok until he is good it'll take more like 5 years and therapy but he'll be WAY better off after some month - guaranteed! EDIT: Look at him at the end! Proofs my point!
- The eastern European Admin is good as well with his Hammer, why won't he just dress up and go the gym and martial arts classes? The mind can be a prison, indeed.
- I like how the Interviewer pronounced Chad as Cha'd
- The Eliott Rogers Songwriter when talking to the Interviewer (I am supposed to piss people like you off) and the response of the Interviewer, which give me J-Cole 1985 vibes (when he talked to Lil Pump)
- 26:25 - a femcel, now I've seen it all. Interesting how people are caught in the trap. Why not matching up with a fellow male Incel? Two people healed with akin problems can work on it together...
- How the Interviewer keeps up his respectful way of communicating is remarkable... that's hard work... Could be a social worker...
- 43:00, D the Incel comes into nature and states that he isn't there at all normally, but it's beautiful - the beginning of a healing? How many of us has the forest passage healed?

-44:40: D: 'The Incel Crisis is more a hope Crisis than anything else... people want people, they want to feel connected, they want be part of something bigger than themselves' - BASED!

Edited March 4, 2023 by supremeyingyang
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[The Mystical Man]

Not easy to watch -- very tragic.

I'm not an incel, but I'm as socially awkward as it gets. It sucks not being able to connect with people. For most people socializing is effortless.

Edited March 4, 2023 by The Mystical Man