Single Young Male Crisis IGNORED By Media | Breaking Points

[Epikur]

 

[Leo Gura]

This topic has been covered a lot in the media if you actually consume broad media, and not just some one channel.

Edited February 28, 2023 by Leo Gura

[Epikur]

10 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

This topic has been covered a lot in the media if you actually consume broad media, and not just some one channel.

Yes on Fresh and Fit and co. but what about mainstream media? In leftist channels it is a nogo.

[Girzo]

@Epikur what are you talking about, a shit ton of leftist channels is aware of this issue. Even a debate bro like Vaush has a long video on this topic defending young males and giving them advice.

Not to mention mainstream written publications. I see them even in my country, so I won't believe the US media hasn't covered this topic.

There's a shift happening, and if I were to point at anyone as the cause, it wouldn't be the left, it would our beloved tech bro IT overlords turning self-development time into screen-time.

[Leo Gura]

Fresh & Fit?

Lol. I don't even consider that media.

CNN runs articles about Incels.

Edited March 1, 2023 by Leo Gura

[Devin]

@Epikur What do you think should be done about this? Besides media coverage. It seems like a natural cycle thing to me.

[Epikur]

4 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Fresh & Fit?

Lol. I don't even consider that media.

CNN runs articles about Incels.

Show me. What I see is that they see them mostly as a terrorist threat and that's it.

Vaush himself states the left is against this topic. Even Destiny doesn't like it. Lefties have a big problem with this issue
 

 

[Epikur]

4 hours ago, Devin said:

@Epikur What do you think should be done about this? Besides media coverage. It seems like a natural cycle thing to me.

Acknowledging the problem and not lying about it is a good start

[Raze]

Dr. Warren Farrell predicted this and also explains why the left is unable to respond to it decades ago.

[Leo Gura]

2 hours ago, Epikur said:

Show me.

You can find plenty of articles on major news sites about the problem with single men and their inability to date. Do they offer you an actual solution? Of course not. But that's not their job. It is not CNN's job to get your laid or turn you into a proper man. CNN's job is to report major breaking daily news. It is not a self-help channel.

If you want to turn yourself into a strong man, all those resources are easily available online. No one is stopping you but you.

Edited March 1, 2023 by Leo Gura

[Hardkill]

10 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

You can find plenty of articles on major news sites about the problem with single men and their inability to date. Do they offer you an actual solution? Of course not. But that's not their job. It is not CNN's job to get your laid or turn you into a proper man. CNN's job is to report major breaking daily news. It is not a self-help channel.

If you want to turn yourself into a strong man, all those resources are easily available online. No one is stopping you but you.

This is very sad.

I don't see how a lot more men in America will be motivated enough to find self-help resources to improve their dating and sex life. More and more men in the US are getting mentally weaker by the day.

I hope western countries don't have a serious decline in birth rates, a continuing increase in suicide rates murder rates because of all of this.

Edited March 1, 2023 by Hardkill

[Epikur]

3 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

You can find plenty of articles on major news sites about the problem with single men and their inability to date. Do they offer you an actual solution? Of course not. But that's not their job. It is not CNN's job to get your laid or turn you into a proper man. CNN's job is to report major breaking daily news. It is not a self-help channel.

If you want to turn yourself into a strong man, all those resources are easily available online. No one is stopping you but you.

Well if they think it is not their job there are Andrew Tate guys that will fill in the void

[Hardkill]

1 minute ago, Epikur said:

Well if they think it is not their job there are Andrew Tate guys that will fill in the void

tragically, yes.

Edited March 1, 2023 by Hardkill

[Joel3102]

12 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

You can find plenty of articles on major news sites about the problem with single men and their inability to date. Do they offer you an actual solution? Of course not. But that's not their job. It is not CNN's job to get your laid or turn you into a proper man. CNN's job is to report major breaking daily news. It is not a self-help channel.

If you want to turn yourself into a strong man, all those resources are easily available online. No one is stopping you but you.

That’s true that there’s actionable advice out there. But the hardcore action required to change a serious incel isn’t seen as acceptable in the mainstream.

But also, pickup isn’t really scalable as imagine how insane it would be if all guys were doing mass approaches on the street. 

[Leo Gura]

8 minutes ago, Epikur said:

Well if they think it is not their job there are Andrew Tate guys that will fill in the void

1) It isn't there job.

2) There is an endless supply of self-help material available to appeal to every kind of person.

[Leo Gura]

7 minutes ago, Joel3102 said:

But the hardcore action required to change a serious incel isn’t seen as acceptable in the mainstream.

That's true.

 But then again, why would excellence ever be something that you get from being mainstream? The mainstream is not designed for excellence in anything, it is designed to be the lowest common denominator that scales to 100s of millions.

Banging super-models is never going to scale, therefore that kind of advice will never be mainstream.

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But also, pickup isn’t really scalable as imagine how insane it would be if all guys were doing mass approaches on the street. 

Exactly. It's not just insane, it's impossible.

But Andrew Tate's advice is even less scalable. Imagine if all the guys were recruits girls into web porn cam businesses and taking their passports. It's not like Tate or his fans give a damn about scalability.

The only scalable advice is to stop playing videos, move to a bigger city, go socialize and date, and work on raising your value as a man by developing yourself. But this requires serious work. Few people are interested in that, they want some flashy shortcut.

Edited March 1, 2023 by Leo Gura

[Hardkill]

6 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

That's true.

 But then again, why would excellence ever be something that you get from being mainstream? The mainstream is not designed for excellence in anything, it is designed to be the lowest common denominator that scales to 100s of millions.

Banging super-models is never going to scale, therefore that kind of advice will never be mainstream.

Exactly. It's not just insane, it's impossible.

But Andrew Tate's advice is even less scalable. Imagine if all the guys were recruits girls into web porn cam businesses and taking their passports. It's not like Tate or his fans give a damn about scalability.

The only scalable advice is to stop playing videos, move to a bigger city, go socialize and date, and work on raising your value as a man by developing yourself. But this requires serious work. Few people are interested in that, they want some flashy shortcut.

But isn't it concerning that this problem of the increasing amount of men who are lonely might get to a point where most men in westernized countries might become single and alone for the rest of their lives? Can you imagine how that will turn out?

[Raze]

5 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

1) It isn't there job.

2) There is an endless supply of self-help material available to appeal to every kind of person.

Only a small minority of people will ever use self help and a minority of that will actually have success.

Society needs to be structured in a way that the average Joe can have basic success and advice beaten into them like through public school. In the past the average person was forced to learn basic life skills and could probably get a solid job and partner at a bare minimum. 

Edited March 1, 2023 by Raze

[Vrubel]

1 hour ago, Leo Gura said:

 

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But also, pickup isn’t really scalable as imagine how insane it would be if all guys were doing mass approaches on the street. 

Exactly. It's not just insane, it's impossible.

I would say going through the learning process to learn pick up is impossible to scale. Because of the sheer quantity of cringe and creepiness that comes with beginner (mass) approaching. But once you're socially calibrated and only approach girls that you are genuinely attracted to and are your type, it's perfectly fine if a good chunk of the population was doing this, especially in a culture that's socially free and embraces sexual polarity, like Latina and Slavic culture.  

Edited March 1, 2023 by Vrubel

[supremeyingyang]

1 hour ago, Raze said:

Only a small minority of people will ever use self help and a minority of that will actually have success.

Society needs to be structured in a way that the average Joe can have basic success and advice beaten into them like through public school. In the past the average person was forced to learn basic life skills and could probably get a solid job and partner at a bare minimum. 

First Paragraph: true

Second Paragraph: That is a life mission in itself, to change the education system. A lot of people in the System agree and it still does not happen. Means that the problem is more challenging as it looks. Teach 1 person is easy, teach a whole population is hard and even if it relatively sucks, it's a big accomplishment. Basicly some people get factory education, some can affort premium education.

I'd rather take a different angle, I think the education system is too robust and resistant to be changed from within quickly (in a few decades, lol - yeah, that is quick!!). Instead? We gotta make a guerilla war on education via a set of parallel education systems, like the informal university of youtube, the academy of udemy or every blog and book you can find online. It won't scale to all, but it'll be enough. In 2 or 3 decades we yield the fruits and then the systems changes.. over some decades. You might see it as a senior.