Should I do nnDMT before 5meo?

[RyanK]

@Leo Gura Ive done over 100 trips of 5MEO.. of course when you get this far, everything is just Infinity, so would you ultimately say that NN-DMT is just another perspective of Infinity?
After working with 5MEO for the last five years, I’ve never tried DMT and I’m just about to try it in the next few days. I’m open to whatever, but just wanted your thoughts on how the experience differs from 5. I’ve heard you say before that most psychedelics that you do now just take you to the 5MEO space.. is that the case? 🙏 

[Leo Gura]

@RyanK Yes, it's all Infinity, but DMT is much more visual and weird than 5-MeO.

You will get an insane kind of Infinity on DMT. Frankly it is harder and more terrifying. Don't joke around with DMT, it will fuck you up.

Edited Sunday at 03:50 AM by Leo Gura

[Girzo]

2 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Don't joke around with DMT, it will fuck you up.

DMT is all about the dose. 
 

The problem is, when you dose high enough, it’s almost always a different type of high? I don’t remember ever getting two similar high dose experiences, and I don’t mean that in terms of contents, but also „structure.” I crave going back to a „fractal of pure beauty” but cannot find it anymore, only once randomly, on a random meadow, looking at random grass, eh…

The most popular motif for me is black void, some crazy stuff happens in it, but still emptiness in the background dominate. Even if a crazy casino carnival type of thing is happening, it’s an experience painted on a black void. The void breaks into colors like lava starting to move or cells of a green leaf growing. When I experience God, then I am the void and I get twisted like a table cloth into the „shape of God.” 

[Pudgey]

Ayahuasca (DMT) takes on this ethereal/otherworldly, while adding an ancient/primordial/nature hyper-focus. Because of this, it can warp your mind into supernatural infinity, leading to weird/strange insights. It can lead to deeper self-development and inner-strength, but can lead to schizophrenic delusion if not careful. 

[RyanK]

@Leo Gura I feel so comfortable with 5MEO now, that I was wondering if it would be overdoing it to do NN DMT, and depending on how I feel afterwards, do a 5 trip after. Might be overkill, but I was thinking that while NN DMT might show me all the colors of infinity, 5MEO can take me to the opposite place to see it all collapse. Form on DMT to Formlessness on 5MEO. What are your thoughts?