Consciousness = Complexity ...?

[Matt23]

I keep hearing from many academics and people in psychology and theories of consciousness that makes me think many believe that "what" the mind does or can do equates with consciousness.  Things like "This organism can solve this complex puzzle or use language, therefore it must have consciousness."  

I still don't really understand how they don't see the issue in that reasoning; why do they believe that the content of the thing equates to the consciousness it might have?  

Just because a system (an A.I. perhaps) can perform certain tasks has no bearing on whether it has consciousness or not... to me anyways.  For example, to me it is far more likely that an ant has consciousness rather than an AI.  I would even go so far to say that even if an AI could outperform an organic organism on every task imaginable, I'd bet on the organic organism having consciousness but not the AI.  

I guess I view consciousness as simply the awareness of things happening, rather than the things that are happening or the functioning of things.  So you could have literally just a left to right movement but with consciousness, or you could have an AI capable of doing things the entire human race collectively could never do but  without consciousness.

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What do you think?

I suppose one link between consciousness and what I'll call "actions" (the functioning of a system, not necessarily the consciousness) could be something like free-will and creative and novel choice making.  But how you'd determine whether a choice of action was an original move, I have no idea.  

Edited February 6, 2023 by Matt23

[WelcometoReality]

I see it as existence being conscious.

[tuku747]

You're overcomplicating it. Consciousness is information. Nothing more than the motion of light waves. Everything is conscious because everything is consciousness. Everything is information. We live in an information hologram that can reprogram it's own code and execute it. Think about it; if God is consciousness, why would you limit it? The limit would be imaginary anyway.

Edited February 6, 2023 by tuku747

[Rahra]

God is consciousness.

That’s the most vital Truth that exists, followed by Supernatural Realization.

[Leo Gura]

They are confusing consciousness with intelligence.

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you could have an AI capable of doing things the entire human race collectively could never do but  without consciousness.

Nothing can exist outside of Consciousness.

Edited February 6, 2023 by Leo Gura