I dont like cold approach

[Ulax]

On 06/02/2023 at 3:00 AM, Chives99 said:

I personally it feel its very inappropriate and obnoxious to be chatting girls up whilst their busy going  about their day you are imposing, you dont have a right to force yourself on someone thats not nice, if its a social place , so your work colleagues or social event or occasion thats perfectly fine to chat to them, because thats  a place where you meet people and socialise thats its entire purpose, and guys go out with their work mates to some pubs or bars or whatever after work, its all about being part of something so you can relate, you get inivited to a wedding great lots of singles there surely. flirt with that cute coworker smile and look happy at her she'll feel your joy and want you to give it to her, even if you go out with your mates to a club or work colleagues whatever talk to women you meet there , theyre meant for socialising, Girls want you, they just want it to be in the right situation, if you werent so needly and desperate u wouldnt struggle so much, you can always improve your social skills and conversation skills, its never too late for you, believe in yourself, be vulnerable , put everything on the line, this goes for both sexes , you fall in love, to fall means to surrender control and manipulation, it happens just as the sun is shining, your cells respiring and the earths systems are ongoing constantly, its all just happening.

@Chives99 At the end of the day mate, your life is your life imo. 

If you don't want to do cold approach in certain situations and think its wrong, no need to do cold approach in those situations.

 

[Hardkill]

3 hours ago, StarStruck said:

Tate is not a fan of pickup. He said it multiple times. He says you should just introduce yourself and demonstrate value as a man. 

Tate said that he doesn't do pickup or cold approach probably just to make himself sound like he knows how to get laid better than any of the pickup and dating coaches. He's full of it.

Edited February 7, 2023 by Hardkill

[Hardkill]

Also, this is what Tristan Tate said to pornstar and male escort, Stirling Cooper, about meeting girls and getting laid:

He talks about how having a certain kind of confidence with a bad boy vibe and charm has always been key.

Plus, talks about how this one old African dude from his past taught him that you gotta talk to all kinds of you encounter where ever you go if want to get laid with any kind of woman you want.

He further talks about how in terms of your overall appearance that your height and have a model face don't matter anywhere near as much as how big, strong, and fit you are and how cool you look overall. 

Edited February 7, 2023 by Hardkill

[Leo Gura]

1 hour ago, Hardkill said:

Tate said that he doesn't do pickup or cold approach probably just to make himself sound like he knows how to get laid better than any of the pickup and dating coaches. He's full of it.

You don't need to do pickup if you offer women $$$. Which is Tate's game. If you want to run a sex business, yeah, you will get laid a lot.

But does the average guy want to run a sex business?

Edited February 7, 2023 by Leo Gura

[Hardkill]

7 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

You don't need to do pickup if you offer women $$$. Which is Tate's game. If you want to run a sex business, yeah, you will get laid a lot.

But does the average guy want to run a sex business?

Running a sex business is definitely creepy and disgusting. 

I even find the idea of paying a prostitute for sex also really creepy and disgusting.

Another reason I don't want to pay any woman for sex is because I want to know that any woman I have sex with is genuinely attracted to me or loves me.

[Karmadhi]

12 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

You don't need to do pickup if you offer women $$$. Which is Tate's game

Saying Tate got girls because of his webcam scheme is not true.

He started the webcame BECAUSE he was already good at getting girls. He said at the very beginning he took like 5 of his DIFFERENT girlfriends and gathered them and introduced the idea to them.

If a guy has like 5 DIFFERENT girlfriends that are all hot, it already shows he knows what he is doing.

I think Tate has natural game, he is very dominant, assertive, funny, charismatic and ruthless. Also he was a professional fighter which displays capacity for brutality, good body and  6 4. Perfect combination to attract girls, especially ones with low self esteem. 

He has videos where he says how he cold approaches, and did most of it at clubs and sometimes on the street. 

He has done pickup, it is just that he did not need to spam approach 20 girls a night and go there just for pickup because he was a natural and whole thing probably came easy to him.

I know guys like that, they go to clubs for fun with their friends (not saying tate this specifically), then there they talk to couple girls casually and sometimes it works well for them. They dont need to do 10 warm ups to get state or any of that stuff. They are social and fun naturally, so couple approaches each night are enough to get results in the long run.

Also pussying out to approach is more of a western thing. I am from the eastern europe and there it is super normal for guys to approach girls if they want to. They are not that scared and many do it since young (usually bullshit "hey u seem nice" from far away while chilling in a corner with their buddies) but still it shows fearlessness. 

Unfortunately they are usually scummy people. I dont know why most intelligent, kind, caring, consciouss guys that want a solid gf that i know, are scared shitless to approach  

I almost feel like there is a correlation between high conscioussness, integrity  and maturity, and being scared to approach. Most guys i know that are like this had to force themselves to approach, it did not come naturally to them at ALL. Just my experience from observing people, yours might differ.

 

Edited February 8, 2023 by Karmadhi

[something_else]

48 minutes ago, Karmadhi said:

If a guy has like 5 DIFFERENT girlfriends that are all hot, it already shows he knows what he is doing.

I'm pretty sure he was rich-ish and well known before that, he used to be a champion kickboxer or something

[Nilsi]

40 minutes ago, something_else said:

I'm pretty sure he was rich-ish and well known before that, he used to be a champion kickboxer or something

Kickboxing doesn't earn you any serious money and he definitely wasn't "well known."

He is just a naturally attractive guy to women, is that so hard to accept?

[Karmadhi]

1 hour ago, something_else said:

I'm pretty sure he was rich-ish and well known before that, he used to be a champion kickboxer or something

1. He was COMING UP as a kickboxer most of the time. Not some super well known superstar. Also most kickboxers are not super known and popular like boxers are.

2. Pro kickboxers dont get paid that much, he has admited himself that it would not make him rich. They dont earn more than like 100k per year max. And that is at an elite level, most of the time he did not have that much or was even broke. 

He has said himself money is not necessary to get girls, you need to have a cool personality on top.

[something_else]

15 minutes ago, Karmadhi said:

1. He was COMING UP as a kickboxer most of the time. Not some super well known superstar. Also most kickboxers are not super known and popular like boxers are.

2. Pro kickboxers dont get paid that much, he has admited himself that it would not make him rich. They dont earn more than like 100k per year max. And that is at an elite level, most of the time he did not have that much or was even broke. 

He has said himself money is not necessary to get girls, you need to have a cool personality on top.

It’s still a lot more status and money than your average dude would have

[Karmadhi]

2 hours ago, something_else said:

It’s still a lot more status and money than your average dude would have

You have plenty of guys with more money and status not getting the same success.

Tate was able to make millions of people follow him like he is a God. The same skillset he probably used to get girls regardless of money or status.

Like it or not, he is very charismatic and dominant.

[Kalki Avatar]

Its all on the framing. You literally need to practice framing interactions as you will. Start framing interactions with average people where you dont feel its risky. 

The essence for having success when approaching is embodying a good vibe. You need to communicate chillness like its completely normal to talk to stranger. You have to talk to them like they are family. Then they can accept that frame and meet you there. You need to be chill and light. No need to do a long conversation. Just say some stuff, chit chat and go. 

Parks with dogs and stores is where you can practice that first. 

By the way man, can you pm me? I would like to ask you something @Chives99

Edited February 8, 2023 by Kalki Avatar

[Chives99]

@Kalki Avatar how do you pm?

[Leo Gura]

He prolly went to clubs, bought tables, and picked up girls -- in the beginning. But that wasn't too effective so he came up with his other scheme.

Edited February 8, 2023 by Leo Gura

[Nilsi]

13 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

He prolly went to clubs, bought tables, and picked up girls -- in the beginning. But that wasn't too effective so he came up with his other scheme.

The mental gymnastics you people go through to discredit everything this man does is Incredible.

[something_else]

46 minutes ago, Nilsi said:

The mental gymnastics you people go through to discredit everything this man does is Incredible.

That's not even discrediting, or mental gymnastics?? You're actually biased towards seeing everything as an attack against him, I think.

[Nilsi]

53 minutes ago, something_else said:

That's not even discrediting, or mental gymnastics?? You're actually biased towards seeing everything as an attack against him, I think.

I have studied him exhaustively and know his story, while you are just making shit up. 

He and his brother did what every guy here does - they went to clubs, talked to girls, collected numbers and set up dates.

The difference being that they were quite high value men from the start: tall, jacked, combative, intelligent, charming.

Tristan (his brother) was starred in some trashy reality tv show as a teenager and you can clearly see that this guy knew what he was doing way before any money or fame.

They obviously leveled up their operation once they got serious money and status, but to reduce their success to that is a gross mischaracterization and shows me that you're not interested to look beyond your preconceived stereotypes.

Edited February 8, 2023 by Nilsi

[something_else]

43 minutes ago, Nilsi said:

I have studied him exhaustively and know his story, while you are just making shit up. 

He and his brother did what every guy here does - they went to clubs, talked to girls, collected numbers and set up dates.

The difference being that they were quite high value men from the start: tall, jacked, combative, intelligent, charming.

Tristan (his brother) was starred in some trashy reality tv show as a teenager and you can clearly see that this guy knew what he was doing way before any money or fame.

They obviously leveled up their operation once they got serious money and status, but to reduce their success to that is a gross mischaracterization and shows me that you're not interested to look beyond your preconceived stereotypes.

That’s all well and good but it’s not related to what was said previously that you claimed was discrediting or mental gymnastics. In fact you actually agree with it here as far as I can tell.

[StarStruck]

1 hour ago, Nilsi said:

I have studied him exhaustively and know his story, while you are just making shit up. 

He and his brother did what every guy here does - they went to clubs, talked to girls, collected numbers and set up dates.

The difference being that they were quite high value men from the start: tall, jacked, combative, intelligent, charming.

Tristan (his brother) was starred in some trashy reality tv show as a teenager and you can clearly see that this guy knew what he was doing way before any money or fame.

They obviously leveled up their operation once they got serious money and status, but to reduce their success to that is a gross mischaracterization and shows me that you're not interested to look beyond your preconceived stereotypes.

 

Some dudes on this forum need to take couple of boxing classes and need their face punched in to know what life is really about. The 5 MeO DMT has zonked them out to their mind. 

Edited February 8, 2023 by StarStruck

[Nilsi]

16 minutes ago, something_else said:

That’s all well and good but it’s not related to what was said previously that you claimed was discrediting or mental gymnastics. In fact you actually agree with it here as far as I can tell.

That's quite dishonest.

You people are quite obviously biased toward attributing all their success to money, status and manipulation - when clearly that's only half of the equation.

What makes the Tate's such fascinating characters in the first place is precisely that it's not just all Machiavellian.

They are legitimate intellectuals - Tristan once talked about having read 1000s of books when he was younger - they are as high value as one can be from an evolutionary bio standpoint and they are some of the most persuasive orators I've ever listened to.

You have to call them evil and stupid - studying them objectively would confront you with a lot fucked up shit about yourself and your inadequacies; and that you want to avoid, of course.