The outrage of Mr. Beast funding for blind people to see.

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5 hours ago, Danioover9000 said:

You think I'm saying all charity is bad, when I'm not if you bothered to look at my post carefully. I said acts of kindness and philanthropy from rich capitalists can be used to look like a good guy. That act is manipulation and exploitation for PR, and weaponizing because it's comparable to the moot and bailey fallacy

Who cares?? It’s still better than rich people hoarding their money

[something_else]

7 hours ago, Osaid said:

The steelman is actually that Hasan Piker is mad about the fact that some rich guy has control over people's vision and that this is the system we live in. He's not mad at Mr.Beast. He's mad at the fact that it takes some rich guy like Mr.Beast to go out of his way and say "ok I will grant people some vision today".

As for the other people, idk I'm too lazy to watch what their points are. I've only seen what Hasan had to say.

That’s absolutely a fair POV. I agree with that entirely. I’m assuming this is a US thing because such people would get the surgery for free or cheap in lots of other countries, or essentially any first world country

[Danioover9000]

@something_else

5 hours ago, something_else said:

Who cares?? It’s still better than rich people hoarding their money

   The victims of said scams, who thought they were dealing with a good character and saint, only to lose their savings.

[Consept]

@Danioover9000 

Its difficult because from the rich persons perspective theyre wrong either way, so if they dont do any charity work theyre a rich miser that just hoards their money and doesnt care about poor people, if they do charity work they probably have some ulterior motive like good pr or even world control. So in this sense there is no win in open to them in terms of public perception, essentially people just think its wrong for you to have so much money period, because in this system if you have this amount money you can make decisions that affect millions of people. So i think when people criticise acts like this Mr Beast one, theyre really criticising a system that allows someone to have so much money and then the power that comes with that, not necessarily the rich person who in fact maybe the most caring person in the world and wants to use their money for good. 

This also shows up in other billionaires, Bill Gates and Mark Zuckerburg both have pledged their entire fortunes to charity when they die and have also setup charities whilst alive to help various causes. However conspiracy theories have been rampant about them and i think this is mainly due to the reasons i pointed out previously.

This presents a massive problem because there are people around the world in genuine need, literally people that cant see. We have a system that can not reach all these people for whatever reason but that also will allow you to become a billionaire if you can provide the requisite value to people, however those billionaires will be seen as bad if they do try and reach the people in need even though the government wont. 

It is a tough situation, ultimately you could argue that the structure of society should be that as long as people are in need there shouldnt be anyone with the amount excess wealth we're seeing, which would be some sort of communism or socialism. If you wouldnt want to go down that road then i dont think there can be complaints about rich people helping poor people, even if they benefit in social capital 

[supremeyingyang]

18 hours ago, Rafael Thundercat said:

@Danioover9000 Even the Image of the videos ready make my inner sage to say "Dont watch this BS" . Is is like when I see the Merchandise of Burger King, my body say "No way" 

My man! It's a serious flaw if someone has no inner defense mechanisms for this... And if Tim 'I was once working at Vice Magazine' Pool is on it, is has to be low level..

[Kksd74628]

@Danioover9000

You skipped my response.

[Danioover9000]

@Kksd74628

22 hours ago, Kksd74628 said:

@Danioover9000

Didn't watch all the content you posted, but I guess I got an overall picture of the situation. Don't really understand how people can twist what good you do against you. For example in the latest video you posted there was this person who got one million DOLLARS!! And then that person goes like oh, but he manipulated that person to show his home like wdym?? He got million dollars and if that would bother him he would as a last trick just change address and be happy with the money and clout he got for free. Feels like trying to just twist and rotate something to look like bad when there's no point to do so.

Could Mr Beast do better, probably, but remember to ask that could you and then you see that all of us could be doing better so what is the critique then. Lately I've been reading comments on Andrew Tate and now that and it just feels that were you normal person or spiritual person you gotta always choose people to hate or put down. I don't literally get it when we are trying to be as conscious as possible and people just like to take sides. Just understand that taking side always means not seeing the whole picture. You could say which perspective is better in some perspective, but calling some perspective or person solely bad is just having blindspots and biases. I've spoken.

-joNi-

   Sorry for skipping over your reply. So, to answer you, yes, I am far above Mr. Beast in stage of development, cognitive development such as less add and far superior focus and moral development as I do understand and empathize with that philanthropy, ego development, states of consciousness such as psychedelic visions and having a ghost friend, far more diverse life experiences and other lines of development in different areas of my life that far outweigh any lack of financial security and money that he has. I am here critiquing Mr. Beast from above, from a higher development than from below. I obviously disagree with the haters and trolls and critics of Mr. Beast from below because they are just petty and maybe political biases of progressive/socialism/communism. 

   My main concern are those who will manipulate and exploit that image of being kind to swindle more of your money, that's all in the short term. Good job for Mr. Beast being philanthropic, could have done more better, for example in that prison video challenge at the end make commentary of the prison system and point out those systemic issues, same with this eye surgery for 1,000 people, at the end make commentary of medical system's limitations, don't just cut corners and not address those collective issues, it's just hyper transactional. Actually, most of Mr. Beast, I don't know if it's because of his autism or ADD brain due to genetics or too much exposure to social media and hyperactivity, but how he treats relationships as if he needs to stimulate his partners and friends, like, WTF??????

[Kksd74628]

@Danioover9000

You could easily have more developed sense of morality and spiritual understanding, but I was just trying to remind you that the tone you brought this thing here was kind of attacking instead of pure criticism. I don't think that selling gym workout plan for fat people or fixing someone's sight for money and clout is bad. Yeah of course I am not disagreeing that those problems shouldn't be fixed in the first place and I'd even argue that making this big video about helping those people would redirect focus to those problems more than doing nothing (which actually happened). First of all everything Mr Beast is doing is solely his own self-expression after all and I think he should have all rights to do so within all laws.

To your other point I think good thing to realize is to see that probably Mr Beast isn't being this hyper dopamine person all the times. Even if he would I think that would be extremely understandable due to his lifestyle, money and clout. What you see on internet can easily bend your perspective of the situation and that's why it sometimes is incredibly hard to analyze scenarios, because at the end of the day you're left only what catches your eye sight and what has been recorded. You have to admit that to understand Mr Beast's or anyones personality one would need to know him/her on personal level first before making analysis of him/her.

So to summarize that and previous comment:

1) Picking side and not taking into account other sides is a mistake in a deep thinking (if you want I could explain that on voice, because it is long point.)

2) Usually due to picking side you'll color your talking so the output is even more biased towards some direction.

3) Internet bubbles you to your own worldview if you aren't consciously trying to see other worldviews.

4) What you see on internet isn't everything.

5) To understand someone really you'd need to know him/her personally.

I am talking about very nuanced things and what you did overall wasn't that bad, but I just think a little correcting to more holistic way of presenting things could be next growth for you. So more colorful data if possible and show the other side better so it doesn't become one sided. I have just done so much thinking that I want everything to be precise. That is where I get my joy to life, from having interesting and hard conversations with people. I want to stimulate myself intellectually so I decided to make these posts. What you brought is important discussion though.

With love -joNi- <3

[Leo Gura]

The real outrage here is that people watch and cherish Mr Beast's clickbait monkey antics rather than stuff that will actually grow their minds.

Clickbait is poisoning the human mind, and yet people consider it ethical and even laudable behavior.

Edited February 6, 2023 by Leo Gura

[Thought Art]

I really need to contemplate this more 

[Danioover9000]

@Leo Gura

2 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

The real outrage here is that people watch and cherish Mr Beast's clickbait monkey antics rather than stuff that will actually grow their minds.

Clickbait is poisoning the human mind, and yet people consider it ethical and even laudable behavior.

   It's not just click bait, albeit this one I'm very sensitive to, I also think it's the Tik Tok and shorts nowadays, all increasingly encouraging consumption of shorter content, creating an incentive for other online social media businesses to try to capitalize, whilst undermining all consumer's minds' perceptions and expectations of reality, creating a distortion of expecting and thinking faster = better content, without being cognizant of how it decreases focusing ability of the mind long term. Eventually more people would be born and develop ADD/ADHD symptoms from social media.

   I can't imagine how this exactly negatively effects children's mind and their development, they must have already an exaggerated, distorted expectation of faster = better universally, among other negative effects of over using social media for very young minds.

[Mulky]

Nobody is perfect, most people don't carry out every action in their life to absolute ethical perfection.  You can probably do a lot worse than filming yourself giving 1000 people the ability to see.  

[Tanz]

The bigger conversation is the healthcare crisis.  If there were universal health care in America then he would not have an opportunity to make money off of something that should be a given right for someone to have.  

 At least people like him are trying to warm people's hearts when compared to other influencers that only care about themselves.  

[Roy]

This situation is the perfect example of how full of shit humans are. The dude could give away his entire fortune tomorrow and find the cure for cancer and people would STILL be on his case. "Why aren't you spending that money the way IIIII would spend it!"

Jesus Christ 

Edited February 7, 2023 by Roy