What Makes A Good Man?

[gleb]

This topic has been one of my main contemplations for years. So many archetypes and nuance. Some key characteristics I can share as I walk to the gym:
 

• Purpose driven.
• Non-reactive when appropriate. Enough emotional reasoning to decide when to ignore the pull and when to submit to feelings. Tip of the iceberg. So many offshoots to this law. 
• Honest and authentic. Charm stems directly out of this. Charm can effectively be called lying with the intention of being caught. 
• Strength - physical and mental. No real reason to be weak in either category. 
• More. 

Masculinity often defines itself in the context of a group. How you interact with other men and women shapes your brand of masculinity  

All these peak masculine traits are sharpened by learning from other good men. Almost impossible to polish without positive role models or conscious action. 

Spending time with women helps a man understand yin and rounds out the edges. Also helps you get laid. 

[LastThursday]

To improve on my previous effort: a good man reduces the suffering of those around him.

[UnbornTao]

He can go out of his way!

Edited January 31, 2023 by UnbornTao

[Carl-Richard]

Integrity, in every sense of the word.

Edited January 31, 2023 by Carl-Richard

[Mz Hyde]

2 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Don't overthink this with your nondual God-logic.

I don't think that line of reasoning has anything to do with "nondual God-logic". Average person from USA is going to have a radically different view on this matter than an average person from India for example. Questions like that can be answered only within a certain frame of reference.

I personally don't think about "good" or "bad", as characteristic of a person, but rather their actions. I believe that everyone is fundamentaly good. That begs the question: Why than people behave in ways that are hurtful for others or themselves? I believe that's because those people are themselves hurt (but does that makes them bad people??).

So than, lets put it this way: people who got through their healing process and therefore are aligned with their core authentic self (which is by default good).

[Leo Gura]

3 minutes ago, Mz Hyde said:

Average person from USA is going to have a radically different view on this matter than an average person from India for example.

Not as much as you think.

[Mz Hyde]

56 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Not as much as you think.

Western societies have strong individualistic culture with a very specific set of values that is very different from collectivistic eastern societies and their values.

That was just an example, not the point of the post..

Edited February 1, 2023 by Mz Hyde

[Michael Jackson]

A man can never be good.

[Osaid]

-Emotional mastery

-Unafraid to exercise their authority when necessary

-Uses their strengths to nurture those around them, which creates a positive symbiotic relationship instead of a parasitic one

-The ability to stay consistent and determined

-Independent and self-sustaining

-Doesn't require an external authority to push them into doing what they need to do, they already have their drive and motivation figured out internally so that it doesn't need to be delegated to other people

-Reliable and credible, no excessive trickery or deceit

-Taking responsibility instead of shifting blame

-Being direct 

-A keen ability to discern deception from truth. Not getting sucked into games and trickery.

 

[Moksha]

A good man knows who he is and who he is not. He trusts his intentions. He places himself neither above nor below others. Serving them is the same as serving himself. He lives unconditionally and unapologetically. His value is realized within, and is unswayed by people's opinions. His work flows from him like the rain of a ready cloud. His rest returns the rain into the sky. He is not magnified by life, nor is he diminished by death.

[Tudo]

39 minutes ago, Moksha said:

A good man knows who he is and who he is not. He trusts his intentions. He places himself neither above nor below others. Serving them is the same as serving himself. He lives unconditionally and unapologetically. His value is realized within, and is unswayed by people's opinions. His work flows from him like the rain of a ready cloud. His rest returns the rain into the sky. He is not magnified by life, nor is he diminished by death.

Nice post.

[MichaelJohn]

A good man accepts life for what it is while also pushing ahead to make everything more perfect.

A good man accepts himself.

A good man looks to be as honest as he can.

A good man balances himself.

A good man looks internally before outwardly.

A good man chooses his battles with great consideration.

A good man makes the constant, conscious choice to be a good man.

A good man opens himself up to pain, frustration, loss, devastation, etc., as he knows running is a choice that leads to the unconscious living of his future self.

A good man loves.

[hyruga]

A good man plans and does noble work.

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Why is the title for Man only? Why not for a Good Human Being/Person/Lady? Well I guess it will get more clicks.

Fundamentally, I think there's not much difference between a Good Man and a Good Lady, just that man has bigger responsibility to protect and improve his society.

Edited February 1, 2023 by hyruga

[CARDOZZO]

• Stoic.
• Responsible for all around him and beyond. (Protector of Humanity)
• A warrior on the garden.
• Anima X Animus Integration.
• Physical/Mental/Spiritual/Emotional Strenght.
• Desire for being men for masculinity itself. (Checkout "On Being a Man - Eben Pagan aka David De Angelo).
• Mentor of other men.
• Think daily about his death. (Memento Mori)

[The Mystical Man]

2 hours ago, Mz Hyde said:

Average person from USA is going to have a radically different view on this matter than an average person from India for example.

What makes a good man is universal, or archetypal. 

[Willie]

1. Have a penis.

2. Be a good person.

.......3? Identify as a man.

What makes a good person?

Well-developed spiritually, mentally, and emotionally. No denial or repression of “undesirable” characteristics. Physically well-developed is a bonus. Has a good balance of masculine and feminine energies and knows when a situation calls for more of one or the other. 

[Sash]

A great man is he who, slowly and patiently cultivates love, so that when the time comes to do the scary thing which is to answer the call, he can do so without fear.

[Salvijus]

One who serves the truth, not the dictatorship of the ego.

One who listens to the voice of love instead of judgement and fear

Basicly a fully awake enlightened master with full embodyment ? 

Everything that is good, holy and beautiful comes from god. So in some way a man would need to be aligned with that force we call god to be an extention of the good, holy and beautiful itself.

Edited February 1, 2023 by Salvijus

[Joyboy]

an observer
and
courage
to be
foolish
- high AQ (Adversity Quotient) also a plus

[ZGROPIUS]

This is a man I love, adore, respect and personally seeking for.

Integrity

• Consciously observing everything, being conscious of existence as deep as possible, and always open for more, before and while they act. This allows everything could exist as they are or be seen in the first place.
  • I can sense the environment field created by their temperament. (the picture reference is at the end.)
  • They seem quiet and conscious, steady, deep, and introverted.

This attitude can accept my existence without demanding me to do anything to ‘earn it’. They don’t take my love from me. I feel I can be with them aside, I want to observe and feel things as well but people are just noisy and interrupting me.

• Cognitive Openness, Respect for existence. Make their opinion open, respecting, and moving towards truth. Have a conscious standard such as “integrity” in their heart when they interact. No use of their “Opinion/perspective/identity” to Territorized any kind of nature. Always open, understanding, consciousing, and loving.
• Basically in order to reach this, it is all what Actualized.org has been teaching.
• Stay quiet or speak honestly. No willing to speak about the things they don't honestly believe in in order to achieve any of their intentions.

 

REAL APPRECIATION OF NATURE, ART, BEAUTY.

without this quality, people are so shriveled like plastic living. I don’t wanna thinking abt them. if you know you know.

Visual appreciation perception is different world views between cognitive opinion ways of viewing. It means it is really different what you can see. (Music and any other kind of art are the same, but I haven’t experienced it yet, but I believe if I can’t create it from the bottom, I don’t truly understand it. So be respectful.) I once left appreciation perception and find out that feeling beautiful is a........idk how to call it, But I know the ability which use to create art and appreciate the "beauty" of the world really does not exist in some people's perception/reality.

Abundant social experience, Maturity

&

Knowledge and understanding of reality

So they can go through and manage all the traumas and troubles while maintaining the conscious of 1 & 2.

This is my personal demand of man. Without appearance consideration, these 4 qualities are fundamental. Only having integrity and appreciation will build a man that is already good enough for our world.

I think social status and money can not represent good people. Because the value of most people doesn’t seek and appreciate these things. They are blind to them and use kindness for ego. So high-status people or popular ones can have no integrity.

 

 

This is the scene of how the observing and appreciating temperament look to me. Totally personal, Guys, I want to know yours as well.

For the Manson example. Even when they act out like this it is still different. You can sense the differences. The playfulness out of love or the hurtful aim is done by truly wanting to deny/reject/blind your existence.

Edited February 1, 2023 by ZGROPIUS