Feeling empty after sex

[something_else]

1 hour ago, Someone here said:

@something_else dude.. I'm not Gonna argue about these niggly little details .

Honestly , I don't care about these medical "facts" about semen .

What matters to me is direct experience.  And my direct experience Is that I feel like  shit when I fap . Should I trust my direct experience or you ?

Those aren’t niggly little details, those are the entire basis of your argument. If you feel bad after cumming there is likely a reason for it, but your conclusion of physical energy loss seems very incorrect

Edited January 27, 2023 by something_else

[Someone here]

17 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

I don't buy it. You shit out more nutrients every day than that. The human body is not so frail that a thimble of cum will weaken it.

You can go to the doctor and draw a whole cup of blood and feel no worse.

Your body is always producing sperm. Old sperm must be destroyed and re-created every week even if you don't use it. The raw nutrients needed to create sperm are minimal compared to how much you eat.

Do you know how semen is made in the body? It the juice of the finest nutrients that your body preserve.  One full chunk of cum takes at least two weeks to be rebuilt.  

Also saints and sages throughout history have advocated celibacy and semen retention for its spiritual benefits.  

Yes you never run out of semen ,because the testicle is producing it nonstop ..but it requires energy to build semen. It requires good nutrition.  If i fap more than twice a day i feel like a flimsy piece of shit. Because I didn't give my body the enough resources to recover. 

Also comparing Cumming to shiting is ridiculous.  You don't shit nutrients. You shit the waste .all the nutrients get absorbed by the blood cycle .

Maybe because you haven't done long streaks of NoFap you are unaware of its benefits.  Just try it for a couple of months and see how you feel .

Also should not go without mentioning that fapping typically makes you Watch porn to get off . And porn is proven scientifically to be harmful for the human brain .

[Someone here]

14 minutes ago, something_else said:

Those aren’t niggly little details, those are the entire basis of your argument. If you feel bad after cumming there is likely a reason for it, but your conclusion of physical energy loss seems very incorrect

No it's correct . This is obvious stuff . Semen is what makes you a fucking man. It's why we say for less decisive men that they got "no balls " . What's so special about the balls that makes you a man?  What do you think? 

Also,you DO lose some chunk of energy when you nut . Whether you want to admit it or not .and no matter how insignificant it is . You can do a quick Google research on the subject .

But if you dont ejaculate, notice how sensitive and how easier it is to get a hard on. so if you over do it, there are some consequences.

[something_else]

6 minutes ago, Someone here said:

Yes you never run out of semen ,because the testicle is producing it nonstop

If I remember correctly it produces semen at the same rate regardless of whether you ejaculate or not anyway

[Someone here]

2 minutes ago, something_else said:

If I remember correctly it produces semen at the same rate regardless of whether you ejaculate or not anyway

Yes but what has been lost can't come back . You build new semen cells  .so you gonna have overall lesser quantity if you ejaculate regularly. So why not save it and have more of it and enjoy it's benefits? 

[Leo Palhano]

17 hours ago, vladorion said:

You can also learn to orgasm without ejaculation.

How? Do you recommend any practices or books?

I always get a super strong urge to cum after a while having sex, especially if the girl cums while I'm inside. Somehow I feel "dirty" about giving in to the ejaculation

[something_else]

27 minutes ago, Someone here said:

Yes but what has been lost can't come back . You build new semen cells  .so you gonna have overall lesser quantity if you ejaculate regularly. So why not save it and have more of it and enjoy it's benefits? 

Why would your body care how much semen it has in it? Testosterone maybe but the amount of actual semen is not going to affect your mental well-being

[Leo Gura]

40 minutes ago, Someone here said:

Do you know how semen is made in the body? It the juice of the finest nutrients that your body preserve.

Lol

40 minutes ago, Someone here said:

Also saints and sages throughout history have advocated celibacy and semen retention for its spiritual benefits.  

 it requires energy to build semen.

They do celibacy for others reasons, not because cumming wastes energy.

Celibacy is good for when you want to focus on spiritual work. Obviously you shouldn't be jerking off in the middle of a meditation retreat.

The main reason they do celibacy is so that their minds are free from thinking about chasing girls.

40 minutes ago, Someone here said:

You shit the waste .all the nutrients get absorbed by the blood cycle .

Not all of them. There's probably more nutrients in your shit than in your semen. Your body doesn't even need so many nutrients. It's not like we're living on starvation diets. The typical diet has too many nutrients, not too few. Most people are overeating. Your body has limits for how many vitamins and minerals it needs and any more is harmful.

40 minutes ago, Someone here said:

Also should not go without mentioning that fapping typically makes you Watch porn to get off .

There is no problem fapping without porn.

40 minutes ago, Someone here said:

And porn is proven scientifically to be harmful for the human brain .

Meh... this is only true for weak-minded folk

Social media is certainly worse for your brain than porn.

[Someone here]

2 minutes ago, something_else said:

Why would your body care how much semen it has in it? Testosterone maybe but the amount of actual semen is not going to affect your mental well-being

Semen contains testosterone. When you ejaculate you lose testosterone. 

[Leo Gura]

3 minutes ago, Someone here said:

When you ejaculate you lose testosterone.

This is such a beta scarcity attitude.

By this logic you should never stand up from the couch lest you lose precious energy.

This is like Trump logic: exercise makes you weaker and live shorter.

Edited January 27, 2023 by Leo Gura

[Michael Jackson]

@Leo Gura  Easy to say for you, when you ejaculate you feel fine. Other people get tired from it.

Actually most people here report getting tired, so stop thinking you are the "avarage guy"

[The Mystical Man]

What good comes from masturbation? I'm asking you.

Edited January 27, 2023 by The Mystical Man

[something_else]

2 minutes ago, Michael Jackson said:

@Leo Gura  Easy to say for you, when you ejaculate you feel fine. Other people get tired from it.

Actually most people here report getting tired, so stop thinking you are the "avarage guy"

Getting relaxed is pretty normal, it’s kinda the whole fuckin point 

[Someone here]

4 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Social media is certainly worse for your brain than porn.

Lolz .

Porn is one of the most toxic ,filthy ,degenerate invention that was ever invented. It makes you objectify women and looking at them as sex objects . 

Real sex with my girlfriend is mind blowing compared to the fake boring in an out penis insertd in a vagina.which lacks intimacy and foreplay. Which is the most important aspect of great sex.

Imagine an infinite pool of naked women doing all kinds of sexual acts ..your brain didn't evolve to handle that . It gets fucked in its ass. 

As far as I'm aware of where porn is today ..I think it's a cancer for society and young men are wasting their time on this toxic garbage. 

 

[Osaid]

9 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

I can cum three times in a row and I have more energy than before.

5 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

I don't think I'm too special in this area.

I can vouch. I don't lose energy at all from climaxing. It feels refreshing and it clears my mind, like I just stepped out of a shower. I also feel super happy afterwards, probably cause of the rush of hormones.

 

[Osaid]

1 hour ago, Someone here said:

Do you know how semen is made in the body? It the juice of the finest nutrients that your body preserve.  One full chunk of cum takes at least two weeks to be rebuilt.  

I don't think your body is trying to preserve it, though. You literally start getting wet dreams after abstinence. How do you deal with that?

[Someone here]

3 minutes ago, Osaid said:

I don't think your body is trying to preserve it, though. You literally start getting wet dreams after abstinence. How do you deal with that?

Obviously I do get wet dreams . However..there is a huge difference between wet dreams and intentional ejaculation.  You lose less sperm and more prostatic juice.

I used to get 3-4 wet dreams per week back in my teenage years . Nowadays I get one or two in a whole month . My sexual drive has been seriously decreasing over the years because I've spent my teenage years cumming left and right like there is no tommorrow.  And now I'm gathering the consequences. 

[Holymoly]

For me ejaculating will lessen my desire to have sex and anything that i was doing that was motivated by trying to get sex will now require more energy, for the people here saying that it dosent effect them they are probably in a higher state all the time because there lives arent revolving around sex and getting more its on higher things.

[Holymoly]

@Osaid Wet dreams are caused by not circulating the sex energy properly 

 

[aurum]

I’ve tried nofap. I no longer see the value in it. 

What usually happens on nofap is that my sexual drive temporarily increases at first. But if I keep going, it basically just goes back to normal range.

In fact, I often find that the more I fap, the more libido I have. There is a limit but it’s not at all like I have to wait a week + to recharge. I can fap almost everyday and have no problems. No loss in energy, no loss in libido, no loss in motivation.

Porn is a different question. It does seem to have a strong potential for abuse. And of course there are the ethics of the industry to consider and to what degree we should participate in that. But probably a little porn once in a while won’t hurt you either.