Ayla

Nofap And The Effects Of Porn, Masturbation And Abstinence

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I have noticed that quite a bit actually. I really don't like professional pornography either ways, I have my reasons. So I'm working on no videos in doing that but we'll see where the future goes with this.

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After eliminating porn completely, and 6 months of masturbating only 1 every 2 weeks, I've notice:

1. Subtle increase of vitality.

2. Deep appreciation for whatever girl I talk to.

3. Deep appreciation for foreplay and strong sensitivity to smells, and touch.

4. Ability to see the girl as another human being, not a "piece of meat.''

5. Less procrastination, anxiety, and victim mentality.

6. Girls notice me, and I stand out wherever I go. ( This is also because of meditation and personal development work)

7. A feeling of compassion for other humans.

I've failed of course (when I fall into my lower self and masturbate 2 in one week) and this is what happens:

1. Loss of interest in whatever goals I'm working on.

2. Hard to focus.

3. Want to masturbate again, and again.

4. I no longer feel my sexual energy when talking to a girl. ( She feels that lack too.)

5. Self esteem gets hurts. Anxiety and subtle anger builds.

6. No interest in socializing or going out at all.

                                                             Masturbation can be great if you know you've earned it.

                                              But if you're in a rut or a plateau, this is the worse moment to masturbate.

                                                             Do not underestimate the power of sexual energy.

                                                                                                    Thanks!

                                                                                                      - Joel

 

 

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10 minutes ago, Ayla said:

I have been in a sex-less relationship for 10 years. From 28 to 38. 

Masturbated for a while, but ... didn't do anything for me in the end. 

What I did notice, is that sexual energy is VERY powerful. It is our life force (I mean none of us would be here if it wasn't for that LOL).

So I started to play with it, transforming it into healing energy and creativity. I would, by breathing, getting it to sway all my body. All my cells. 

It is not lust I am speaking of. It is that wonderful energy that excites the being.... 

Anyway.. that's just a girl's perspective :D 

 

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Yea, I don't think life should be a struggle and a huge fight all the time, there's things to fight and struggle for but not for your whole life, I think masturbation is natural in this day and age other than going back to live where we're having a lot of sex at the ages of 13 and having a lot of children as we see in tribes.

So I believe its a battle some may never win because we first haven't accepted what ever is there to be accepted so i agree with you.

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Thats Great..Ejaculation less sex is the healthiest sex ..!!

There are lot of people who can't channelise there sexual energy and they just waste it foolishly

Here there is some techniques which is discussed by osho in his books one must follow this to channelise his energy

 

Technique :- Close the eyes and look upwards. So our eyes are closed but inwardly looking upwards. This is the same state which happens in deep meditation also. In deep meditation our eyes look upwards towards the 3rd eye.

 

Now, after closing the eyes, stop the breath and keep on looking upwards. Stop the breath and don’t inhale breath as long as you feel comfortable. No need to force or exert too much. Stop the breath in comfortable limit. Idea is not to force any kind of exertion but just to stop the breath as long as we can do it comfortably. After few seconds lets say 5-6 seconds, Inhale the breath but don’t exhale. With closed eyes, stop the breath as long as you are comfortable. This is one round of inhalation and exhalation.

 

Try this 4-5 rounds and sexuality will no longer be there. The energy always needs a door for expression. If we close one door then it finds some other door. Here, we have tried to channelize it towards upper chakras. Key for meditation is to always channelize the energy for higher ch

akras

 

 

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I have been masterbating to much these last days and that is probably whay I feel so lazy right now and whay I am procastinating

I am comiting myself to not masterbat for a week now. I will tell you guys from my resoults and if I make it :D

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I think noFap is a great thing to do, especially when you are addicted to PMO. I know when I started out it was a damn hard thing to do. Eventually I made the 90 day challenge and I turned into some courageous little guy. Of course I relapsed a couple of times. But now I have made about a year without it. And it's good. I rarely get the temptation. 

By the way, the thing that really helped me on my journey was getting an internet filter (such as K9) and giving your password to a friend you trust. It's very easy to get triggered and therefore it helps to have some tool and a friend to help you out. 

I heard that there are even more radical approaches. Such as having an e-mail send to your boss when you visit a porn-site. If everything else fails do that!

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I get it that NoFap can be a good thing when you're in a sexual relationship, but what if you aren't having sex with anyone for a longer time, don't you find it a bit unnatural not to masturbate?

I'm against porn definitely, but when I go to bed every night I like to masturbate, even though sometimes it is just a few minutes and without orgasm. Somehow, it makes me more relaxed. 

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Well from a personal point of view, if a person wants to masturbate then by all means they can. However, in a social and productivity point of view I feel as though it might be hindering to oneself. So much time can be spent just for instant pleasure through this act, but this time can be used for many other things which offer long lasting memories. Also I think if a person were to continuously masturbate they will feel detached to the initial feeling they had when they first started and can have an effect when performing intercourse with a spouse or partner. Also this can lead to treating a significant other as a means to an end or an object rather than a person with emotive responses. 

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While I understand porn addiction is a serious problem, I don't think it's the case for everyone.

Here is some benefits I've found personally from masterbation (with or without porn).

- Learned to be comfortable with my own body.

- Learned to have multiple orgasims (25+).

- Learned what turns me on. 

- Taught me tricks and ideas to experiment with. 

- Made me more comfortable with trying new things

- Made me more counscious about my body and the different types of orgasims I can have.

I love masterbation and porn, I see no problem with it as long as it doesn't spiral into an addiction. xD

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4 minutes ago, Sarah_Flagg said:

While I understand porn addiction is a serious problem, I don't think it's the case for everyone.

Here is some benefits I've found personally from masterbation (with or without porn).

- Learned to be comfortable with my own body.

- Learned to have multiple orgasims (25+).

- Learned what turns me on. 

- Taught me tricks and ideas to experiment with. 

- Made me more comfortable with trying new things

- Made me more counscious about my body and the different types of orgasims I can have.

I love masterbation and porn, I see no problem with it as long as it doesn't spiral into an addiction. xD

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As a psychological and personal developmental perspective, masturbating to escape one's experiences and daily life and to control one's emotions is actually very limiting and toxic, because it delays growth (as does anything that is done to escape the present emotion, situation or moment in general). That is why it can become as addictive as anything that causes pleasurable physical sensations, just like food, drugs, sex in general, shopping etc. Excessive need to have sex in a relationship most definitely has an underlying cause behind it as well. Masturbating in itself is not bad (as is not shopping, food etc.) but it is how we are using it.

It is so good that many men (and women) here are questioning these paradigms and wanting to live a life where they feel more at ease with themselves. :) 

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12 hours ago, AHappyTeddyBear said:

Don't masturbate to porn !!!

It will mess with your hormones and you will not get as excited during sex ! 

It is totally acceptable to masturbate once a day, just don't do excessive masturbation.

excessive masturbation is associated with health issues that might be caused by it. 

 

Is this a scientific statement? 

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I've been trying to do nofap lately to test it out. I feel like it makes me more confident and aggressive when I can go a while without masturbating.

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Quoting my post from another thread, it fits this thread more:

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Well, briefly speaking, based on my 1 year of practicing NoFap (my longest no PMO streak was 60 days and a number of 20-30 days streaks):

1) You have much more energy and motivation and you can very clearly experience it.

2) You feel more brave and confident in social interactions, especially with the opposite sex.

3) Overall you feel happier and more optimistic. You feel less lazy. It is easier to get out of comfort zone. You feel more social. You feel less vulnerable. It motivates you to be active and even start new activities (because you are full of life energy). And also, without porn, you feel much "cleaner" and healthier mentally. You feel like you are becoming free from an addiction and you are proud of yourself. Also the view how you see women changes - you respect them more. On longer periods of practice you feel that you are not desperate for sex and that what you really want is love, trust and you feel that you deserve it and capable of achieving it (again, because you have so much energy).

 

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I think the primary issue with masturbating to porn is that you're sort of Operant conditioning your neural pathways to relate pleasure only to a third-person experience of sex. This makes it harder to orgasm to the real thing which is very different than watching an image of people having sex. Also, if you're watching most mainstream pornography, they tend to treat women very disrespectfully. So, you run the risk of strengthening an association between women being mistreated and sexual pleasure. This is especially bad if you are a woman yourself, as you can develop some really masochistic tendencies.

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13 hours ago, Coach Vito said:

Exactly. From what I have learned, even ejaculation in sex is bad and men should only ejaculate on a rare basis, like once a month or something like that. Some say you should only ejaculate to create a child. That's why there is this practice for non-ejaculating orgasms. Then you can have as many orgasms as you wish and still keep your seed and your energy.

This makes no sense from a biological perspective.

All our closest ape cousins jerk off and have sex incessantly.

Your body produces sperm regardless of if you jerk off or not and then expels it through your urine if you don't use it. It's not like that sperms stays in your nuts for a month.

Sexual release is healthy for the organism. Now... perhaps not 12 times per day, lol.


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I believe it's good to experience both sides of the spectre. And find the middle ground for yourself where you only get the positives. I myself like to fluctuate back and forth, to experience the greatest highs of both.

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22 hours ago, Coach Vito said:

"The multiorgasmic man" is a great book for this issue, and even Napoleon Hill writes about this in his book

I read that book when I was like 15. It made my sex life (even as teenager) much, much better. I definitely recommend this book to anyone who wants to please the ladies and get the best of sex.

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22 hours ago, Coach Vito said:

I don't even jerk off once a week anymore. Still a waste of life force/energy. Also your body goes through a lot of trouble to create the sperm you just simply waste for a few seconds of relief.

What I'm doing now is practicing to have non ejaculatory orgasms so I can have as much orgasms as I want without wasting the energy. "The multiorgasmic man" is a great book for this issue, and even Napoleon Hill writes about this in his book "Think and grow rich". It's the chapter on sex transmution. You want to keep all the life force inside you to be strong and healthy.

That's interesting stuff. I am sure you know of David Deida's book, Way of the Superior man. He talks about ejaculating up the spine and I am certain he mentions developing a multiorgasmic capacity as a man towards the end of the book.

Personally I've never dabbled in developing these things. I generally have stopped watching so much porn, instead fantasise about my girlfriend (I know, I am mad) and I think it's far more rewarding. I am uncertain of quitting all masturbation as an answer to everything. Maybe twice a week to no porn could be seen as healthy and not too 'draining'?

As I say, maybe this year I'll see about developing some of the things you speak of. I have come across (sorry!) those ideas before and it has always interested me, through not enough to get me to make a dedicated effort.

 Maybe I'll look into tantric sex? Have you any experience with this?

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